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Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-04-2007

QUOTEMasked men, not Dipendra, killed Nepal king 
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Kanchan Gupta | New Delhi
Queen mother's maid exposes 'truth' behind regicide, claims cover-up
With the monarchy virtually abolished and King Gyanendra stripped of all powers and privileges, a concerted effort is being made to expose skeletons in Nepal's royal cupboard with the explicit purpose of discrediting Narayanhity Palace.

For starters, 'investigative reporters' are trying to provoke a fresh inquiry into the night of the long knives on June 1, 2001 when King Birendra, Queen Aishwarya, princes and princesses were slaughtered. King Gyanendra came to power after that massacre.

According to eyewitness accounts and an official inquiry, Crown Prince Dipendra, high on drugs and alcohol, had slaughtered his parents and siblings, and then turned the gun on himself, that fatal evening. Whispered gossip in the bazaars of Kathmandu was more colourful than the anodyne official version, but nobody dared raise uncomfortable questions, least of all in media.

That silence could soon become a thing of the past. A new book on the royal massacre, Rakta Kunda (The Massacre), written by Nepalese journalist Krishna Abiral, raises questions that are bound to provide ammunition to those who want to embarrass King Gyanendra and paint him as a tyrant.

Rakta Kunda tells the story of the massacre as narrated by 'Shanta', Queen Mother Ratna's personal maid and one of the few witnesses who survived the ghastly bloodletting. Shanta's husband, Trilochan Acharya, an employee of the palace, was killed in the shootout.

If the author, who describes Rakta Kunda as a "historical novel", and the former royal maid are to be believed, it was not Crown Prince Dipendra who spilled royal blood on June 1, 2001. According to the book, "two men masked as Crown Prince Dipendra fired the shots that led to the massacre".

The book describes Dipendra as "a man who was killed conspiratorially (and then) called a murderer". Apart from this startling claim, the author also asserts that "King Mahendra didn't die of a heart attack; he committed suicide".

An entire chapter of Rakta Kunda has been translated into English and put out on the Internet. Kantipur, Nepal's most popular daily, has published excerpts from the book, reflecting the changed times and the fall of the once all-powerful palace.

Questioning the official inquiry's finding, as also the statement of eyewitnesses, that Dipendra was high on hashish and alcohol, the book says, "Indeed, all the blame for the incident was put on Dipendra's head. The probe commission formed to investigate the incident, too, instead of making a neutral investigation, said Dipendra was guilty... He was projected as a hashish addict. But it's all a show. In the end, what more can you expect from those who just follow orders?"

For evidence, the author says, "The fact that no evidence of hashish was found in the stub of the cigarette, which Dipendra was said to have smoked before the incident, proves this... Like what Shanta didi says, the police lab report does say, 'no trace of narcotics was found in the cigarette stub'."

Shanta didi says this and a lot more. For instance, "Another thing is, (the) investigation report says Dipendra committed suicide after killing everybody.... You think yourself - is it possible to commit suicide with a machine gun? To commit suicide with a machine gun one has to shoot oneself under the chin by pulling the trigger with the toe? But Dipendra was shot in the chest. So doesn't it become clear that he was shot by somebody else?"

The former royal maid is most dismissive of the statement by Kumar Gorakh Shamshere Rana, whose wife and King Birendra's daughter, Shruti, was among the victims, that "it was, in fact, Dipendra who fired the shots". The book quotes Shanta as saying, "I don't know why Gorakh said so. But I think he was confused. He said so because he thought the man wearing the mask was Dipendra. I think he got confused or he said what he was told to say."

Waving away Gorakh's statement, she insists, "The fact that three different kinds of machinegun bullets were found at the incident site also contradicts this. It is impossible for a person to fire from three machineguns at the same time. I am very sure that others wearing Dipendra's mask had fired the shots... The conclusion that Dipendra committed suicide is a plain lie. I will tell you the truth. Murderers wearing masks had used all the three machineguns found at the incident site. Dipendra sarkar only had a Glok pistol. That too he wasn't carrying that day."

Shanta has raised a point that official investigators have never been able to answer convincingly. "How is it possible that Gorakh and Shruti... were hit but miraculously, Dr Rajeeb (royal family physician) and Paras (son of King Gyanendra) who were present in the same room escaped without a scratch? Nothing happened to Paras sarkar, who was alongside Birendra sarkar, Shruti sarkar and Gorakh Shumshere. Dipendra sarkar spared Paras sarkar just because he said, 'Dada, it's just us here.' Does something like that actually happen? All a show..."

And then the twist in the royal maid's tale: Princess Prekshya, sister of Queen Komal and widow of Dhirendra Shah, younger brother of King Birendra who also died in the massacre, knew the truth and hence she died in a mystery helicopter crash some months later.

"Prekshya sarkar was the only one to survive against the wish of the architects of the murder plan. Later, she, too, was taken to Rara Lake in a conspiratorial way and plunged into the lake along with the helicopter," Shanta says.

It appears from her claims that Princess Prekshya had demanded her husband's share of royal property, which had displeased Gyanendra. So who could unravel the truth? "The helicopter pilot survives, all the people following the orders survive. Only Prekshya sarkar and her helpers die. Can this happen if there's no conspiracy?" We can now look forward to anti-monarchists, who have grabbed control of Singha Durbar, going after the pilot -- if he is still alive.

Nepal News & Discussion - Hauma Hamiddha - 02-04-2007

The below is meant more as a hagiography, but has material of historical interest.
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A great nAtha yogi who worshiped dattAtreya was eating curds and saw a boy roaming on the field. He offered the boy the curds but he refused, and it fell on his feet. He told him: "if you had eaten the curds you would have lived long and become the king of the world but now in your relatively short life where ever you set foot you will conquer. This curds is imbued with the might of dattAtreya." The boy's parents nara-bhUpAla and kaushalyavatI initiated him into the 3-syllabled bAlA mantra and asked him perform its japa. His father had already attained mantra siddhi of the hallowed ShoDaShI. For 24 years he performed its japa and he finally attained siddhi of it. He was given the signal by the ever youthful nityAShoDaShikA, the mistress of the 3-syllabled mantra, that he was destined for greatness. Prior to that, as a young man, he went to Bhaktapur, where he began his intense sAdhana after his nine fold krama dIkSha. This led him to attain the grace of the queen of kubjIshAna, the mistress of the the paschimAmnAya. Then he also attained the grace of our goddess, the dreadful mother of the uttarAmnAya. The devI worshiped in the kumArI gave him the prasAda instead of the rAjan. It immediately became clear that pR^ithivI nArAyaNa shAha deva was to be the rAjan. He traveled to vArANasI and there performed a rite to uttarAmnAyeshvarI as siddha-lakShmI and pratya~NgirA. As a result he was able to mysteriously raise money and use to purchase first-class modern weapons from India and also obtain first hand intelligence on the designs of the East India Company and the subversive role of Catholic missionaries. He then arranged a variety of alliances with the neighboring Indian rulers and prepared on a large-scale for the unification of Nepal.

-In his first strike pR^ithivI nArAyaNa conquered Nuwankot and attacked Kirtipur. In the battle with teja narasimha the king of Patan who controlled the town he was almost killed. But his mantra prayoga came to his aid and saw him through.
-After two failures to take Kirtipur he sacked Lamji in a fierce battle, where the power of the war machine of pR^ithivI nArAyaNa became first apparent.
-He then sacked Kirtipur after a six month siege and surged towards Patan. But a British army attacked him from the rear.
-He cornered the Britons in the Tarai, where they were put to flight by a sudden strike.
-King jayaprakasha malla of Kathmandu sought the help of captain Kinloch who marched with the British army into Nepal. In the battle of Sindhuli, pR^ithivI nArAyaNa smashed the Britons and beheaded the captain.
-He then entered Kathmandu during the indra-dhvaja festival took the throne of the rAjan. He received the prasAda from the devI invoked into the kumArI, and was declared rAjan. The king of kAThmaNDu jayaprakAsha malla fled in terror.
-Then he moved on Makawanpur, whose ruler digbandhan sena sought the aid of the Jihadi adventurer Gurgin Khan to repulse pR^ithivI nArAyaNa. However, Moslems were put to sword and Makawanpur was taken. In the battle pR^ithivI nArAyaNa captured a rich haul of ammunition.
-He then conquered Bhadgaon from rAjA raNajit and Patan from teja narasimha and put them to flight .
-He then by 1773 he overran the whole of Eastern Nepal driving and defeating the Kiratas.
-Thus, did pR^ithivI nArAyaNa unify the kingdom of Nepal. Realizing the danger of Christian subversionists he drove out all Jesuit missionaries and British agents from his kingdom entirely and upheld the Hindu dharma. In his court was a noted tantric bhagavantanAtha, who was a master of haTha yoga, and performed many notable tantric prayoga-s.

He initiated his eldest son pratApa siMha into the tantric lore. pratApa siMha compiled all this knowledge into the great tantric digest the purashcharyArNava.

Nepal News & Discussion - Hauma Hamiddha - 02-04-2007

I do find the whole royal family massacre suspicious. I feel there might have been a controversy, but it is not all clear if Gyanendra was involved. In any case it was very injurious for the Hindus.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-04-2007

QUOTE(Hauma Hamiddha @ Feb 4 2007, 11:59 AM)I do find the whole royal family massacre suspicious. I feel there might have been a controversy, but it is not all clear if Gyanendra was involved. In any case it was very injurious for the Hindus.[right][snapback]63994[/snapback][/right]A Nepalese couple then studying with me at university were devastated by the news of the murders. They told me that it was perpetrated by the maoists and others were expressly framed. I didn't know what to think (knew next to nothing of Nepali politics then, all I knew was Manisha Koirala was Nepali and that Nepal was a Hindu kingdom.)
Don't know whether this was merely the general suspicion on the part of Hindu Nepalese, grounded on their experience of communist terrorists in their country; or whether contextual evidence that made sense to them (and others of their country) led them to this conclusion.

Since then, having read through IF postings on the topic, I came to think the event was highly suspicious too, and incredibly convenient for the communist elements. Seems more than gawd's miracle gift to communists and missionaries.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-04-2007

I think Paras and Maoist were involved in killing.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-06-2007

QUOTEAmerican pie in NepalÂ 
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Sandhya JainÂ
On January 28, Delhi's unpretentious Paharganj locality played host to thousands of Nepali Maoists, almost half of whom crossed over from the neighbouring country, while the rest were already residing in India. Held under the banner of the Nepali Jan Adhikaar Suraksha Samiti (Bharat), the 4700-strong gathering included representatives from each of the Himalayan kingdom's 75 districts, most being the cadre of the Nepal Communist Party (Maoist).

Hitherto reliable sources report that the chief guests who blessed the gathering were two White men, respectively introduced as Comrade Peter and Comrade Mangoli, both from the United States. The Indian VIPs included Prof Vijay Sharma of Delhi, Ms Ravi Varvar (Andhra Pradesh), Mr Prakash of the People's War Group (Jharkhand), Mr Manohar Lal Tiwari (Delhi) and Mr Fateh Anwar (Jammu & Kashmir). 

The Nepali contingent was led by Gaurav, better known as Mr CP Gajurel, missionary preacher, gun-runner, and ideologue of the Nepali Maoists, not to mention 'guru' to Comrade Prachanda. He was recently released from a Chennai jail by the ruling UPA dispensation, for reasons unrelated to the Indian national interest. Mr Gajurel descended on New Delhi specifically to attend this conclave, the purpose of which was to win over every Nepali resident in India to the Maoist cause, and ensure that they return to the country to vote for Prachanda's party in the forthcoming June election. He did not, as media reports would suggest, come here to whine about alleged RSS-BJP activism among Terai Hindus.

Other important Nepali delegates included Mr Mohan Baid (Kiran), Mr Raju Nepali, Ms Rekha Sharma and Ms Sushila Biswakarma, one of the new Maoist MPs in Parliament. The meeting, convened by Mr Laxman Pant, was inaugurated by Mr Ishwari Bhandari, a well known Nepali missionary preacher. Its purpose was avowedly political, focusing particularly upon fund-raising for the forthcoming election for a new Constituent Assembly, and mobilising public support for the polls. In the closed session, organisational elections of the Nepali Jan Adhikaar Suraksha Samiti were held and tasks allocated.

Essentially, four zonal chiefs were elected, and entrusted with the responsibility of wooing the Nepali population in their respective regions. Delhi has been assigned to Mr Shankar Biswakarma, the person in-charge of church-Maoist links in India. Mr Vinod Dhakal has been sent to Punjab and it is said that his job is to take care of the Maoist weaponry which is not going to be surrendered to the United Nations. Mr Amrit Thapa has been given charge of Kolkata, and he is reputedly responsible for the tickets and transportation of Nepalis in India to the country in June. Mr Dilip Kesri has been deputed to Bangalore to maintain links with the Andhra Maoists.

Given such an overtly political agenda, to be implemented on an all-India canvas with the explicit involvement of foreign agencies, it needs be asked if the Delhi Government and the ruling UPA had officially permitted such a meeting to take place on Indian soil. The State Government cannot plead ignorance, since the meeting was held in the immediate vicinity of the Paharganj police station, and the Nepali delegates were also housed in buildings nearby. And while it is true that Mr Gajurel probably does not require a visa to visit India, the Centre must explain how the American visitors entered the country and what kind of activity they were permitted to engage in against their visas.

The question is particularly relevant in the light of the anti-Hindu activity the guests (who are probably Christian missionaries) reportedly indulged in. Sources say that Comrade Peter blessed the gathering and gave a clarion cry: "Brahmanvaad, Hinduvaad, Murdabad" (down with Brahmin and Hindu values). Since Nepali politics has long been dominated by Brahmins and Kshatriyas from the hills, the slogan seems to indicate a missionary bias against the Hindu ethos of the till-recently Hindu kingdom. A comprehensive anti-conversion law, on the lines of Sri Lanka's aborted legislation, is clearly the need of the hour.

Interestingly, a banner displayed at the meet proclaimed: "Bharatiya vistarvaad murdabad" (down with Indian expansionism). This is also the title of a book written by Ms Hisila Yami, the Christian wife of Maoist ideologue Baburam Bhattarai, and a new MP in the interim Parliament. The writing on the wall clearly suggests that an open assault upon the cultural and civilisational values of Nepal is already underway.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh owes the nation an explanation if the ruling UPA endorses these vicious anti-Hindu and anti-Indian views of the Nepali Maoists and their Western patrons, and if New Delhi is going to permit their political activities on Indian soil. Is that the reason why the Government of India extended the red carpet for a supposedly private visit by Comrades Prachanda and Bhattarai to New Delhi recently?

At a more fundamental level, India needs to know why the Sonia Gandhi-dominated regime has thrown the Himalayan kingdom to the mercy of the American church and its Maoist collaborators. What is India gaining from severing historical and civilisational ties with Nepal and promoting a phony democracy movement that is intolerant of genuine people's power and seeks to deny agency to nearly 40 per cent of the population living in the fertile Terai plains?

Within Nepal, it is becoming increasingly apparent to the intelligentsia that the rent-a-crowd movement that succeeded in ousting the monarchy is actually a coup against democracy. There is growing awareness that the interim Constitution, implemented from January 15, excludes all political parties from power, barring a privileged group of eight (Seven-Party Alliance plus Maoists), and seeks to repress the legitimate aspirations of myriad ethnic and regional groups in the country.

India must lend moral support to the Madheshi Janadhikar Forum, which is seeking a federal set up in the proposed new Constitution, with proportional representation for the Terai in the new Constituent Assembly. South Block's silence at the death of at least seven people in police firing on this issue is shameful. What is more, India will be a loser if more parties refuse to kow-tow to Prachanda; the Nepal Sadhbhavana Party has already quit the interim Government over the Terai question. There is no way India can permit an emerging political structure in a sister civilisation to ignore legitimate regional and ethnic aspirations.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-06-2007

Regarding Post 182.

I had heard one more detail about the Natha yogi offering curd, the boy refusing, curd falling, Yogi's prophecy about the boy. Per what I had heard, he even said that the boy would found an 11-generation dynasty. Not sure the source of the lore, but present king is the 11th.

Also, there is a devI temple, called Devi Patan, in a small town of Tulsipur in Balrampur District on Indo-Nepal border. King was blessed here by devI, and as per the custom, the Shah king sends the first mahaprasAd (always Khichdi) in every Navaratri mahotsavam.

List of Shah kings:

1. Prithvi Narayan Shah (born 1723)
2. his eldest son Pratap Singh Shah (born 1751)
3. his grandson two and half year old Rana Bahadur Shah (born 1775)
4. In 1799, one-and-half year old son Girvan Yuddha Bikram Shah (born 1799), after King Rana Bahadur Shah becomes a Nath sannyasi.
5. In 1816 at young age of 19, he died to be succeeded by his infant son Rajendra Bikram Shah (born 1813).
6. King Rajendra Bikram Shah abdicated in 1847 in favour of his son Surendra Bikram Shah (born 1829)
7. Both Rajendra Bikram Shah and Surendra Bikram Shah passed away in 1881. Yuvaraja Trailokya Bikram Shah (born 1847) had passed away earlier in 1878, his five-year old son Prithvi Bir Bikram Shah was crowned king (born 1875).
8. In 1911 King Tribhuvan Bir Bikram Shah (born 1906). Modern era of Nepal starts.
9. In 1950, there was a conflict during which King fled and took shelter in India. Ranas named King's grandson King Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah Dev (born 1947), then a three-year old prince, as the king. King Tribhuvan returned to Nepal, but died after 5 years in 1955. Mahendra Bir Bikram Shah (born 1920).
10. Prince Birendra (born 1945) ascended the throne of the Kingdom of Nepal.
11. After Royal massacre of 2001, Dipendra Bir Bikram Shah (born 1971) declared king while in comma, but died next day before rajyabhishek. King Gyanendra Bir Bikram Shah takes over.

Later _ depends upon how you count, Gyanendra is 10th, 11th or 12th.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-09-2007

QUOTECity-centred revolution in the offing, says Maoist leader Gajurel
By Gopal Khanal
http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=99497

NEW DELHI, Feb 3 - Maoist Politburo member Chandra Prakash
Gajurel "Gaurav" Saturday revealed that the CPN-Maoist's
participation in the interim parliament and the recently thawing
relations with India was "merely a stratagem" for declaration of a
republic Nepal.

Speaking at an interaction programme organised by the Maoist
affiliated Democratic Students Union (DSU) of the Jawarlal Nehru
University (JNU), Gajurel stated that his party's foray into
mainstream politics was also a part of their "ongoing revolution."

He disclosed his party's strategies in reply to the Indian Maoist
affiliated intellectuals and leftist leaders who accused the CPN-M of
being "unable to maintain its revolutionary image."

He assured his supporters that Nepali Maoists had "abandoned its
revolution but were instead strengthening themselves to this end and
that in the recent days, the party had managed to achieve a
substantial increase in the PLA fighting force."

"Since entering mainstream politics, we have increased our military
strength from 10,000 to a 37,000-strong PLA. This in itself is a
great achievement," Gajurel said.

"We are now capable of launching a fresh revolt any time."

Gajurel's comments have confirmed conflicting reports in that past
that the Maoists had been busy recruiting PLA fighters even after
entering mainstream politics.

Gajurel, who is also the in-charge of the party's "international
command", revealed that if the parliament failed to get results, they
would also conduct a "city-based revolution."

"We are going to the elections and make sure that the results are in
our favour. If the oppositions capture one booth, we will capture
five," he added.

He also divulged that a "People's Volunteers" was being formed for
the party's city-based revolutions, elections and other "strategic
activities".

He also said that the "People's Volunteers" would have around 100,000
members, adding that the Maoist Chairman Prachanda would soon make an
announcement to this end.

Gajurel further stated that the refusal by senior leaders to
participate in the interim parliament was also part of the strategy.

"Why didn't Chairman Prachanda, Baburam (Bhattarai), Badal and I
himself go into the interim legislature? Because, once there, they
(parliamentarians) must speak the language of revolution, something
those who were there on frontlines are capable of."

He also said, if necessary, the CPN-M parliamentarians would lead the
street and city-centred revolutions.

Disclosing that his party would take up guns as soon as peaceful
measures failed to get results, the Maoist leader further added that
his party was capable of being "locked and loaded within an hour."

Gaurav's claim of the PLA's "ability" to be armed and ready for
combat within has raised suspicions regarding the ongoing UN
monitored Maoist arms and armies registration and storage.

Union's former chairperson, Rona Wilson had chaired the interaction
programme that continued till midnight in the JNU's Sutlej hostel, in
which around 100 leftist students and intellects were present.

While Gajurel was busy giving away the party's internal strategy,
members of his own Indian association, People's Right Protection
Committee (PRPC), however, appeared "uncomfortable".

Gajurel, who was the chief guest during the inauguration of a PRPC
programme recently, had faced criticism by representatives of Indian
and international revolutionary forces who had accused his party of
giving-in to a progressive outlook and forgetting the notion of class
struggle,

Although he did not reply to those criticisms in an open forum, he
disclosed his party's "masterplan" to CPN-M's foreign well wishers
that Friday night. During the programme, he also claimed that 80
percent of Nepali territory was still "under the Maoists' control."

He also stated that the cordial relations with Indian government was
part of a strategy, adding that his party couldn't do its job while
India remained incensed.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-11-2007

Nepal's New Peacemakers

QUOTEChristians become voice for freedom after national crisis.
Anto Akkara in Katmandu, Nepal | posted 2/09/2007 09:07AM

When Jyoti Adhikari became a Christian, her husband, who came from a traditional Hindu family, could not stomach the thought. But Adhikari didn't flinch, even though her husband divorced her.


QUOTEBut the effort will probably involve fewer than 20 percent of all Nepali pastors. "The desire for social and political influence is something that the wider Christian community has been rather slow in developing," said scholar Mark Pickett via e-mail. Pickett teaches at the Evangelical Theological College of Wales and served in missions for 20 years in Nepal.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-12-2007

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=449939
QUOTEMt Everest to replace King's picture on Nepalese currency
KATHMANDU, FEB 10 (PTI)
Nepal government has decided to replace King Gyanendra's picture in currency notes with that of the world's highest peak-- the Mt. Everest, the latest ignominy to befall the sidelined monarch.

The decision was taken at a cabinet meeting.

Nepal's central bank the Nepal Rastra Bank had proposed that the King's picture be replaced by either that of Lord Buddha or Mt. Everest.

"We decided to go for Mt. Everest as some Buddhist organizations were against having Buddha's picture on the paper note," Finance Minister Ramsharan Mahat said.

The cabinet decided to remove the King's picture from 10 rupee bills and replace it by the world famous mountain, cabinet sources said today.

Nepal's King has been stripped of his powers in an Interim Constitution formed by an interim Parliament having representatives of the seven main parties and the Maoists, who have been demanding that the monarchy be abolished.

The fate of the 238-year-old monarchy will be decided by a Constituent Assembly to be elected in June.Well done to the Buddhists. I wouldn't want Buddha to represent the emerging christocommunist-rule of the nation of Nepal either.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-12-2007

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/feb/12nepal.htm

Won't allow Hindu sadhus to enter country: Nepal

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-12-2007

QUOTE(rajesh_g @ Feb 12 2007, 12:08 PM)http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/feb/12nepal.htm

Won't allow Hindu sadhus to enter country: Nepal
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Was just reading the comments below that news article. Have that many people really become so stupid, so low-intellect, so much stone-headed? Howmuch has pseudo-secularism clouded the heads of people especially Hindus? Or is it the psec rediff that orchestrates this kind of comments?

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-13-2007

QUOTEWas just reading the comments below that news article. Have that many people really become so stupid, so low-intellect, so much stone-headed? Howmuch has pseudo-secularism clouded the heads of people especially Hindus? Or is it the psec rediff that orchestrates this kind of comments?Visiting India mid 2006, I noticed that my younger cousins were incredibly well-informed, even though they are continuously exposed to such dawaganda. In talking to them, I found that their circle of friends and classmates were the same. This is Tamil Nadu. More recently I met a young adult from Karnataka: also incredibly awake to the big sham in the media and about other events. And according to him, his acquaintances are all the same.
They're just a few years younger than I am, but they are so conscious of what is going on - something I never was until more recently (but I've always contended I've been pathetically slow), so I think it is very promising.

Bodhi, I really think that there is a vocal 'psecular' minority that is posting on many Indian boards, trying to make their psecular views seem more widespread and common. (A suspicion further underscored when my cousin told me how he had earlier been part of a Tamil forum which was eventually taken over by christos and the kind of pseculars who fervently believe in Oryans and Dravidoids, with many members curiously adhering to both camps; and how any arguments he made in correcting slander against Hinduism was not allowed to be posted. He quit the forums when he began to suspect that the administrators had an agenda in letting only the anti-Hindu statements go through.)
It is true that among the more easily manipulated - there's some in every population - psecularism is catching on. But then, anything would catch on among them, even though they like to pretend they're well-informed, well-read and open-minded. They're the ones that the English-language media is aiming for: the ones that can be fed misinformation and will eagerly digest it.

But as a general rule, Indians are not stupid like the press and politicians would like to believe, but are rather perceptive. If I can figure things out, Bodhi, 99.99% of the Hindu population can and will. Really. I take a lot of comfort from that.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-17-2007

QUOTENepal king's motorcade stoned during Hindu festival
16 Feb 2007 14:26:16 GMT
Source: Reuters
By Gopal Sharma

KATHMANDU, Feb 16 (Reuters) - The motorcade of Nepal's King Gyanendra was stoned as the monarch drove to a pilgrimage site in the capital to celebrate a Hindu festival on Friday but he was not hurt, officials and witnesses said.

The attack was the first of its kind in Nepal where the monarch was traditionally regarded as an incarnation of Hindu god Vishnu but has become unpopular since King Gyanendra took power only to be forced down by weeks of violent protests last year.

The 59-year-old monarch was on his way to the Pashupatinath Temple in Kathmandu to pray on the occasion of "Mahashivratri" when crowds hurled stones at his motorcade as it neared the venue, they said.

The stones hit one car accompanying King Gyanendra's vehicle before the heavily-guarded convoy made it to the temple where the monarch worshipped on the annual "grand night" festival of Lord Shiva, the Hindu god of destruction.

The crowd also shouted "Gyanendra thief, leave the country" as a power shutdown plunged the area into darkness, Ishwar Dhakal, a witness said.

Police said the crowd was baton-charged before the king was driven back to the palace safely.

King Gyanendra has been isolated since he gave in to mass protests last year, stripped of most of his powers including the control of the powerful army and is rarely seen in public.

Gyanendra was a businessman before he became king in 2001 after his brother, King Birendra, and eight other royals were shot dead in a drug-and-drink fuelled shooting spree by the then crown prince who later turned the gun on himself.

TIGHT SECURITY

Friday's attack came despite authorities deploying thousands of policemen at the pilgrimage site over fears that religious groups could use the festival to demand the country revert to being a Hindu state.

The Himalayan nation was the world's only Hindu state until it was declared a secular country last year after King Gyanendra stepped down from power.

Organisers of the festival said about 300,000 pilgrims from Nepal and neighbouring India were expected at the temple of Lord Shiva, one of the trinity of Hindu gods.

Hundreds of "sadhus", or Hindu holy men, were also expected for the celebrations which continue through the night.

Local media reports said some religious groups were planning protests to demand Nepal -- about 80 percent of whose 26 million people are Hindus -- return to being a Hindu state.

"Some people could create trouble. The government is fully prepared to stop anyone who tries to indulge in violence," Baman Prasad Neupane, a senior home ministry official, told Reuters.

About 2,000 policemen would be on guard and more forces were on standby for deployment in the event of trouble at one of Hinduism's holiest sites, police said.

The Pashupati Area Development Trust, a religious body that organises the festival, urged pilgrims to refrain from politics inside the temple.

"All activities other than religious, cultural and traditional have been banned from the temple premises," it said in a statement.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SP321855.htm

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 02-28-2007

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Devyani Rana marries Arjun Singh's grandson Aishwarya Singh.

Allegedly, it was the relationship of Prince Dipendra with Devyani, which caused the displeasure of King Birendra and the queen, and which allegedly led to the massacre of the Nepal royal family.

QUOTEhttp://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1081847
NEW DELHI: It will be a sparkling spectacle of royalty for the second successive day on Saturday as central minister Arjun Singh throws a grand reception here for the wedding of his grandson Aishwarya Singh with Devyani Rana, who is related to the Nepal monarchy.

The list of invitees to the event will also include the powerful political elite like Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Congress president Sonia Gandhi.

Devyani Rana, closely related to India's erstwhile royal Scindia family, was earlier engaged to the crown prince of Nepal, Prince Dipendra, who killed his father, mother and seven other members of the royal family before killing himself.

She is working with the United Nations and maintains a residence in New Delhi as well as Geneva.

Belonging to the Rana family of Nepal from her father's side, Devyani's mother is Usha Raje, hailing from India's Scindia family and the younger sister of Rajasthan Chief Minister Vasundhara Raje.

Friday saw a big turnout of the erstwhile royalty of India in their impressive attire, most of them related to one another by marriage. About 2,000 people turned up for the wedding.

The Saturday event was expected to be a much smaller affair with only about 400-500 names on the guest list, said the staff at 17, Akbar Road.

In the presence of Chief Minister Vasundhara and nephew Jyotiraditya Scindia, the wedding was held at their traditional abode, the Scindia villa. Besides there was Karan Singh, Gaj Singh of Jodhpur, apart from the royalty of Jaipur, Kapurthala and even Mysore. The former King of Bhutan Jigme Singye Wangchuk also attended the ceremony.

An official at Human Resources Development Minister Arjun Singh's residence said: "There may be some difference in the guest list on Saturday" but added, "we don't know who all have been invited for this reception by them (the Scindias)".


QUOTELeading personalities of India and Nepal attended a reception hosted by HRD Minister Arjun Singh on Saturday to celebrate the marriage of his grandson.

Aishwarya Singh married Devyani of the elite Rana family of Nepal on Friday.

The 34-year-old Devyani was draped in an orange saree with rich zardozi work and decked in gold and priceless gems.

Bridegroom Singh was wearing a light blue silken 'achakan', white 'pyjami' and multi-coloured turban.

He greeted the guests at a spectecular 'mandap' tastefully decorated with red flowers.

Arjun Singh and his wife were seated in a separate platform at one of the corners of the sprawling lawns of his official residence.

Over 5,000 invitees, including Vice President Bhairon
Singh Shekhawat and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, attended the reception.

Devyani's father, Pashupati Jung Bahadur Rana, who heads the Rashtriya Prajatantra Party of Nepal, was in a traditional Nepali attire and her mother Usha Rana, the sister of Rajasthan Chief Minister Vasundhara Raje Scindia, were by her side at the ceremony.

Talking to reporters, Arjun Singh expressed hope that the wedding would help in furthering ties between India and Nepal. (The retard thinks he is the Maharaja of India and that Ranas are the kings of Nepal!)

http://ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?id=101369

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 03-01-2007

Former Hindu kingdom gets its first bishop
http://in.news.yahoo.com/070301/43/6cnqs.html

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 03-02-2007

QUOTENote that Madhesis are pro-India, pro-Hindu Rashtra, and Anti-communist.If they are, they have already been infiltrated by those christoislamics who have a bone to pick with the maoists. That's not good, shouldn't allow christoislamics to piggyback in a Hindu movement.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/I...ca108fd744e.htm
QUOTENEPAL: Maoists and Madhesi activists clash in Terai 
01 Mar 2007 13:44:17 GMT
Source: IRIN
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MoreÂ NEPALGUNJ , 1 March (IRIN) - At least two civilians were killed on Tuesday in street clashes between supporters of the Communist Party of Nepal-Maoist (CPNM) and the Madhesi People's Rights Forum (MPRF) in the western part of the Terai region of Nepal.
A 14-year-old, Khohade Kori, was killed on the way home from school during the latest violence in Nepalgunj, the largest city in southwest Nepal. Another civilian, 55-year old Kohle Kori, also died.

Surya Dev Ojha, an MPRF leader in Nepalgunj, told IRIN that the party blamed the Maoists for the death of the student and demanded protection from local authorities.

"We have been organising peaceful protests but the police and local government administration have kept quiet when our demonstrators were attacked," said Ojha, adding the Maoists were using combatants from their military wing, the People's Liberation Army (PLA), to attack them.

However, the Maoists accuse MPRF members of being the attackers. "We were merely acting in self-defence and we would not attack if their demonstration had been peaceful," Suresh Singh, a senior local Maoist leader, told IRIN.
(Says Maoist. Only communists and their supporters will believe the word of a Maoist. For all others, Maoist equates will arch-liar.)

The Maoists see the MPRF as a threat in the Terai, analysts say. After the November 2006 accord between the interim Nepalese government and the Maoist insurgents, the MPRF began growing in popularity among the Madhesi in the region, which borders India. The influence of the Maoists, who previously controlled large parts of rural Terai, began to decline, observers say.

"There is an urgent need for the leaders of these two political groups [MPRF and Maoists] to sit and talk for the sake of the security of civilians," said human rights activist Bhola Mahat. Civilians have been suffering the effects of constant strikes in the region and the Maoist-MPRF political violence is making their situation worse, he said.

Protests by the Madhesi group started in the eastern part of the Terai region, which stretches along the border with India, and later spread to the western part of the region.

The Madhesi are predominantly Hindus with some Muslims, Buddhists and Christians. Madhesi leaders accuse the Nepalese government of treating them as outsiders due to their Indian roots. More than 40 percent of the Madhesi do not have citizenship or voting rights and only 15 percent of 330 Nepalese parliamentarians are Madhesi.

The MPRF has been leading strikes since 26 February to pressure the government to meet demands for greater autonomy and more political rights. MPRF-led protests over the past month and clashes with the police resulted in more than 30 deaths. The party is planning a new indefinite strike and blockade from 6 March if the government fails to meet their demands.

Poor communities who rely on a daily wage have been particularly affected. A transportation strike since 26 February is impeding the delivery of essential supplies from India, on which many cities and villages in the Terai rely.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 03-05-2007

Nepal-Maoists Poised to Enter the Government 
http://www.saag.org/notes4/note369.html
By Dr. S.Chandrasekharan.

Nepal News & Discussion - Guest - 03-05-2007

QUOTE(k.ram @ Mar 5 2007, 08:29 AM)Nepal-Maoists Poised to Enter theÂ Government 
http://www.saag.org/notes4/note369.html
By Dr. S.Chandrasekharan.
[right][snapback]65266[/snapback][/right]Just a reminder of who these murderers are - image from May 2005 shows sample effect of Maoists on Nepalese:
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QUOTE[Caption:] A mother holds on to her child as she cries while defying police arrest at Bhotahiti road in Kathmandu on Friday. Victims of the Maoist rebellion held a sit-in protest on the streets for compensation, food and shelter from the government.
â Reuters photoNow the foreign-aided terrorists are going to come into government?
The mauling maoists' violence is so extreme that even the other communist terrorist parties of Nepal didn't want to do business with them in 2005. (Of course violence never stopped communists before; these other communist parties were just afraid they would have even less popularity if they buddied up with the maulists in public - back then anyway):
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050514/world.htm