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Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-10-2006
I heard that Nepal is now 35% Christian.
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-10-2006
As usual the DDM has titled this report as "Lucknow: BJP activists attack convent"
What they dont show in the title or even in the initial paragraphs is why BJP activists 'attacked' (=broke flower-pots <!--emo&:o--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ohmy.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/10lucknow.htm
I apologize for too many bolds and colors and most of the time I dont use these features but I thought this one was too good (or weird ?).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Reacting to controversy over a prayer meeting in which <i>a special invitee of the school created a 'miraculous appearance' of Lord Jesus Christ</i> on September 6, school principal Sister Tressia said, "There was nothing shady about that special assembly."
She said, "<b>It was one of our spiritual assemblies where our aim is to let the children have an experience of God; and here was this man with divine powers, who was brought by a parish priest from West Bengal to provide that experience.</b>"
She clarified, "Participation in the assembly was absolutely optional and we had made it clear to all students and teachers that they were free to leave if they so desired." This is strictly for foreign audience. Truth in India is that a kid is NEVER going to leave a classroom or assembly. Catholic nuns have the worst impression,
However, she admitted, 'probably on account of the shock, one or two girls fainted, but they were revived soon and even their parents have no complaint on that count'.
She named the 'divine' person as Nobo Kumar Mandal.
"<b>A rickshaw-puller until about seven years ago, Mandal acquired miraculous healing powers with which he not only cured his own kidney failure, but also thousands of people who visit his center in a rural pocket of Krishnanagar in West Bengal. He came here with Father Sebastian, a well known parish priest from Murshidabad</b>," the Sister Superior disclosed.
"<b>Since he was so widely known for his great powers, we thought our students too could share the experience</b>," she said, while emphasising, "<b>After all ,besides providing formal education and emotional development, our institution's objective is to also promote spiritual development of the students, which we are free to do in our own way. It is not binding on any student to follow our religious preaching</b>." Is this some freaking joke ??????
Earlier in the day, when contacted over his mobile phone, Father Sebastian spoke to this reporter from Murshidabad. "<b>Well, I fail to understand why you all are suspicious,</b>" he said. Mr gownwallah, I have one word for you --> duh !!!
Describing Mandal as 'divine' and the 'chosen one of the Lord', he said, "Mandal really has miraculous healing powers; you have to see to believe that Lord Jesus actually descends on him to bless those who seek his blessings."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Sunder - 09-11-2006
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http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/sep/10lucknow.htm
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More here - Nabo Kumar pic included.
http://www.timesnow.tv/articleshow/1975508.cms
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-12-2006
<!--emo&:ind--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/india.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='india.gif' /><!--endemo--> MP CM questions Pope's agenda
[ 12 Sep, 2006 2122hrs ISTPTI ]
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NEW DELHI: Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister Shivraj Singh Chouhan, whose government has passed anti-conversions law, has said he wonders why Pope Benedict is "so much" concerned about conversions in India in India.
In an article in RSS mouthpiece Organiser , Chouhan claimed Congress chief Sonia Gandhi had written a letter to a Christian body reportedly expressing her views on conversion and said "only a novice in the political history of the Congress and its post-freedom development would say something like what Sonia has said in the letter".
Chouhan said he also wondered why Congress does not question the Vatican's views on conversions.
In May, Pope Benedict had condemned moves in India to ban religious conversions.
"Why is Pope so much concerned about conversions in India only?â Chouhan asked. The Chief Minister also insisted conversions were not part of universal declaration of human rights.
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-13-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Nun séance </b>
The Pioneer Edit Desk
<b>Farce and tragedy in Lucknow</b>
In a city where university and college politics are defined by violence, Lucknow's better-known schools have been oases of relative peace. The term "relative peace" is used advisedly because at least one school - housed on the sprawling palace grounds of its warrior founder - was the location of a teacher's murder a decade ago. That aberration notwithstanding, the vandalism at Loreto Convent in downtown Lucknow earlier this week, by hoodlums claiming to represent the youth wing of the BJP, is fairly without precedent. Not since La Martiniere College was attacked by mutineers in 1857 has a school campus in once genteel Avadh been so savaged. Coming soon after the ABVP - the students front of the RSS - found itself implicated in the killing of a professor in Ujjain, it places yet another question mark over the credibility of organisations that owe allegiance to the Sangh Parivar. Having said that, the issue on which the Bharatiya Janata Yuva Morcha (BJYM) activists were so exercised, even if their mode of protest was completely over-the-top, deserves to be rebuked. A day before the BJYM activists descended upon the convent, the Loreto nuns had hosted what amounted to a séance, wherein a charlatan from West Bengal, claiming to be possessed by the "spirit of Christ", performed his little act and scared innocent schoolgirls into fainting fits. This preposterous charade outraged parents and caused a public outcry, which the BJYM sought to exploit.
The Loreto authorities, as well as other missionary schools and the Catholic clergy in Lucknow, have attempted to justify the shocking event by arguing that religious teaching is part of the curriculum, as it were, in Church-run educational institutions. This is a decidedly specious argument. Divinity or moral science classes or even lessons from the Bible and the life of Jesus are unexceptionable and have been around in Christian schools in India for, literally, centuries. Rarely if ever have they degenerated into providing approbation for superstition or, worse, black magic and voodoo faith. The Loreto nuns clearly erred in inviting the deranged man and subjecting their pupils to his "possession"; had they kept it a cloistered affair, nobody could have taken offence to it. As the police and authority take necessary action against the BJYM activists, the education department of Uttar Pradesh Government must ask questions of the Loreto management. The Catholic church and school accreditation bodies, too, must demand that the nuns adhere to more conventional norms of religious - or secular, for that matter - teaching. <b>If the Loreto episode goes unpunished, it could open a Pandora's Box. A school run by a Hindu trust would see it within its rights, for instance, to organise demonstrations of reincarnation, and learning would be reduced to a farce. The Loreto Order has rendered service to generations of Indians. Let it not sit on false prestige and ruin its legacy. </b>
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Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-13-2006
<b>Proselytisation: Is Congress a theological seminary? </b>
By Shivraj Singh Chouhan
<i>Gandhijiâs ideas were still influencing the Congress when in 1954 the then Madhya Pradesh government constituted the Neogi Committee to study missionary activities at micro-level in tribal areas.</i>
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - agnivayu - 09-13-2006
Anyone who opposes Christo-Islamic fascism is an "extremist"
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-14-2006
Look at how the Congress Mouthpiece HT is white washing the comments of a former Nazi (sympathizer):
Poles upset with Pope's remarks on India
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Many Polish Indophiles, most of them Catholics, are upset over Pope Benedict XVI's complaint to the Indian ambassador about the treatment of Christians in India.
Krzysztof Mrozwicz, a leading journalist and a former Polish ambassador to India, said he was surprised and shocked the Pope had made uncharitable remarks about Indian society.
"The fact of the matter is India is the most secular country in Asia if not in the world. It seems that the Pope has been wrongly briefed by his advisors. The Pope should have realised what he was talking about and in which context he was raising his concern.
"An Italian born and a Catholic by birth, Sonia Gandhi is leading the century-old Congress party and guiding the nation these days. What else he could have expected from an Indian polity to show its record of tolerance and freedom of practising one's own religion there?"
Mrozwicz added: "During my term first as an ambassador from 1996 to 2001 and earlier as a correspondent of the Polish Press Agency from 1983 to 1990 I never could file any dispatch to my government that the Indian Christians were facing any discrimination."
Stanslaw Tokarski, head of Indian Studies at the Polish Academy of Science, told INEP agency: "The Pope's unnecessary complaint has left a bad taste. He is visiting Poland and I don't feel like listening to his homilies during his visit.
"When an Afghan wanted to live as a Christian in his country and he was not allowed to live there, the Holy See remained quiet and did not protest. Now suddenly they are making complaints against a country whose record of freedom of religion has been great."
According to Anna Bem, an Indophile married to an Indian professor and who lived in New Delhi in the early 1980s, "It seems there is a hidden agenda to make life difficult for 26 million Christians in India by some vested interests by raising false alarms. It is high time that the Vatican issued a statement to withdraw its uncharitable remarks.
"My son was baptised there and during our many visits to India we never felt any restrictions to go to church or temple anywhere in India. It is disgusting that the new Pope has raised this issue.
"Our Polish born John Paul II, when he was the Pope, never raised this kind of issues with any ambassador or during his two visits to India in his life time." <i>(Ofcourse, there are many other things that Pope Jon Paul II did say that were equally offensive)</i><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course, the Poles LOVE India <!--emo&:whistle--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/whistle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='whistle.gif' /><!--endemo--> . But that is not the point, it does not lessen the impact of what the man said and Poles, are at the end of the day a devoutly catholic people.
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-15-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Jilted nun sets lover's house on fire </b>
London: A nun in Italy proved that hell hath no fury like a woman scorned when she set her lover, a priest's house on fire when she caught him in bed with a married woman.
Sister Silvia Gomes De Sousa, 39, who claimed she had two abortions after sex with Father Carmelo Mantarro, also allegedly threatened to kill him while armed with a machete.
A Sicilian court heard the nun set fire to the home in Roccalumera, where she was a cleaner.
"I just flipped when I caught him in bed with another woman, who is married. We had been together four years," the Sun quoted the jealous nun who also showed the court love letters from the priest, as saying.
Sister Silvia Gomes De Sousa has, however, been bailed to reappear next month on charges of arson and threats to kill.
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/jilted-nun-set...e/21525-13.html
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Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-15-2006
Pope asked to apologise for comments on Islam
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Religious Affairs Directorate head Ali Bardakoglu, a cleric who sets the religious agenda for Turkey, said he was deeply offended by the pope's remarks o Tuesday during his pilgrimage in Germany, about Islamic holy war, calling them ''extraordinarily worrying, saddening and unfortunate''.
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Compare this with the Indian reaction when the MEA guy was read the riot act by some clerk in Pontiff's office.
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - agnivayu - 09-15-2006
The Pope is an Abhrahamic fascist, so are the Muslim extremists critizing him. Things don't get much better than this.
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Shambhu - 09-15-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Jilted nun sets lover's house on fire </b>
When we were in school, it was common to hear 'rumours' about the priests' affairs with the nuns, nuns' pregnancies, etc. But now it is all out in the open. Nuns and priests tell it all! Surely, that is progress! We must have a reality TV show, where all the 'goings on and romantic sagas' behind the church doors are telecast live to the public. I'm positive that the show will be immensely popular, especially in the Vatican.
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The truth is certainly setting many people free!! Let us hope that this goes all the way and the truth about Jesus and Moses et al. also comes out. Let The Good News be heard.. <!--emo&
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Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-16-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sister Silvia Gomes De Sousa, 39, who claimed she had two abortions after sex with Father Carmelo Mantarro, also allegedly threatened to kill him while armed with a machete.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-16-2006
City school accused of âteaching religious mattersâ
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The agitated parents met Ms Cynthia, principal of Ryan International at Whitefield on Friday morning and expressed their âanguishâ over the programme in which some foreigners were invited to speak about Christianity and the Christ to the children.
âDuring the programme they distributed a book, âYour Book of Hopeâ, which is on Christianity. The children were told that they must go to church, and that Jesus Christ was the âbiggest hero,â alleged Nandish, a parent.
Another parent alleged that the speakers told the children that if they didnât go to church, they would go to hell. Later, the group filed a complaint against the principal and Mr Pinto, chairman of the school, with the Mahadevapura police station.
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Evangelical activities alleged in Nellore college
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NELLORE: After Tirumala hills, it is now the turn of the reputed DKW college at Nellore to face allegations of evangelical activities on its college premises.
Though in charge principal of the college B. Naveena Devi denied allegations of `systematic religious conversions through inducements and coercive pressure' in the college premises, many issues have come to light when media persons as well as Regional Joint Director (Guntur) of Higher Education department N. L. S. Vidyasagar Rao visited the hostel premises.
Slogans erased
Some of the students were seen erasing religious slogans written on the doors as well as walls with water. The RJD, who was in the college in connection with the enquiry pertaining to misappropriation of funds, said the team would also look into the matter and brought it to the notice of higher ups.
Meanwhile, Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) activists staged a dharna in front of the college demanding action against the in-charge principal. "Ever since she became the in-charge principal, religious conversions have been taking place under the garb of social service particularly on Sunday on the college premises," ABVP district organising secretary K. Mahesh Kumar alleged.
"Despite evangelical organisations engaging in anti-Hindu propaganda, she has turned a blind eye to all such proselytisation activities. And she has never prevented outsiders conducting religious meetings with students," he alleged.
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Things are slowly getting out of hand. I am happy that the Pope has made adverse remarks on Islam. Let Islam and Christianity fight it out against each other, and we can watch the fun from sidelines. We will take sides as required to weaken both of them <!--emo&
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Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - agnivayu - 09-16-2006
Damn right. As an ancient saying goes, "Stand on a hill and watch the two tigers fight"
<!--QuoteBegin-bgravi+Sep 16 2006, 04:30 AM-->QUOTE(bgravi @ Sep 16 2006, 04:30 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Things are slowly getting out of hand. I am happy that the Pope has made adverse remarks on Islam. Let Islam and Christianity fight it out against each other, and we can watch the fun from sidelines. We will take sides as required to weaken both of them <!--emo&
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Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-16-2006
Interesting sites-
http://www.crusadewatch.org
http://www.burningcross.net/
See the video-
http://www.godawfultruth.net/index.html
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Guest - 09-16-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-acharya+Jul 18 2006, 08:40 AM-->QUOTE(acharya @ Jul 18 2006, 08:40 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Friday, June 23, 2006
Is it too late to save Hindus?
The first step is to recognise that in some ways it may be too late to save Hindus. But let's allow hope to triumph over experience for a moment and pretend it is not ORTANT common issue facing all Hindus in the world today, tells us what WILL India. ,
GS
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It is not good to be pessimistic.Remember the story of two frogs,which fell into a pot of curd.One thought it will die,accepted its fate.
The second one,went on jumping,trying to escape,thus churning the curd.A lump of butter was formed,which was used as a platform,by this optimistic "never say die spiritted" frog.
It's all in ones mind.if one is optimistic of success,one will succeed.
Of course i agree that muslims control,the Indian Underworld and the offshoots,like Film Industry,Drug Trade,the world's oldest profession etc etc.
There will always be obstacles in life.The most important point is one should never give up.I will give the following two examples;-
1.If India had not fought for its independence and simply accepted its fate.........
2.if the Iraqis had simply accepted their fate,instead of fighting occupation.........
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Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - Bharatvarsh - 09-17-2006
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->YS Jagan, son of YS Rajasekhar Reddy blows up a Hindu temple
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http://www.andhrajyothy.com/mainshow.asp?q...2006/sep/5main8 YS Jagan Mohan Reddy, son of Y S Rajasekhar Reddy once again publicly affirmed his family's intolerance towards Hindu religion by blowing up Sunkulamma temple in Obullapuram village in Anantapur district. Jagan and his friend Janardhan Reddy used powerful bombs and grounded the temple which is highly revered by locals. Though some congressmen claimed that Jagan did that as part of his illegal iron mining business, questions are being raised whether he would have blown up a church under similar circumstances.
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Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - acharya - 09-17-2006
http://www.crusadewatch.org/index.php?opti...unc=detail&id=5
A christian Pastor performing Hindu rituals in a Church
Sprinkling of sacred water around the house with Mango or Neem leaf is a core Hindu ritual.
Christian Missionary Role In India - 6 - agnivayu - 09-18-2006
Iraqi shia's and sunni's should fight and kill each other. I heard they will both go to paradise that way, and some say even this world will then become like paradise.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->2.if the Iraqis had simply accepted their fate,instead of fighting occupation.........
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