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The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Guest - 11-23-2006
Hindu Saints warn govt. Withdraw the anti-Hindu Acts
Pune: Members present at the State level All-Sects Hindu Dharma Rakshan
session held at Alandi have strongly opposed and demanded withdrawal of the
Anti-Superstition Act and the Act for the takeover of Temples by the Government
that is to be enacted under the 15th Law Commission. These two Acts are
proposed to be enacted in the forthcoming winter session of the State
Legislative Council.
All the same, there was consensus on the decision of staging a powerful a
gitation all over Maharashtra till these Acts are not withdrawn. This State
level session was organised jointly by the Warkari Sect, Hindu Janajagruti
Samiti (HJS), Art of Living and Sanatan Sanstha.
The Govt. has conveniently excluded mosques and madarasas belonging to the
Waqf Board from the purview of this Temple Takeover Act. This proves that the
Government that we have elected is a pro-Muslim Govt. The funds of Hindu
temples are being collected and diverted to mosques and churches. The Govt. is
taking over only those temples that have funds; however it shall not do so in
the case of temples that are in a dilapidated condition in villages because
such temples will not yield them any money.
The Government's move to takeover temples to repay the crores of rupees of
debt of the Maharashtra State is an evidence of the fact that all its
industries have shut down. Shri. Shinde appealed that everybody should unitedly
protest against this, question leaders regarding their view in the context of
these Acts and should strongly proclaim that ââ¬ËIf your (leaders) view in this
regard is against us, then we shall also be against you during the elections.
To oppose Anti-Hindu Acts is the duty of every Hindu Swami Govind Devgiri
Maharaj (formerly known as Pujya Kishorji Vyas)
Both these proposed enactments are Anti-Hindu and it is the duty of every
Hindu to oppose them. Else, the consequences shall be terrible. Each and every
Government industry is on the verge of closing down; hence the Government is
targeting temples. Government run industries that are ill managed are being
privatised. Swami Govind Devgiri Maharaj expressed his fear that, after taking
over temples, the Government shall be unable to manage them and these too
shall be privatised!
Resolutions made at the Meeting
Every Kirtankaar shall discuss this topic during the discourses held by him
and shall make his audience aware of it.
A Memorandum to protest against both this Acts be presented to the Chief
Minister.
To meet respective members of Legislative Council of the respective areas
before the onset of the winter session and question them about their stand in
relation to these Acts.
To form associations at district levels to combat attacks on Hindus and to
spread such information in the society.
Read the guidance by other saints present for the meet.
http://www.hindujagruti.org/eng/phpnews/ne...ullnews&id=1225
Source: Dainik Sanatan Prabhat
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Guest - 12-03-2006
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Dear all:
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This is a very dangerous move. This could pave the way for Islamization of India in the near future.
Therefore I request all of you to please sign the enclosed petition addressed to the Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh to dismiss him immediately.
Also, I request you to please circulate this petition to your family and friends.
Thank you for your time and cooperation.
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The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - acharya - 12-06-2006
PAST & PRESENT
The guru of hate
BY RAMACHANDRA GUHA
Golwalkar's book disparages democracy as alien to the Hindu ethos and extols the code of Manu...
THIS column generally deals more â much more â in appreciation than in depreciation. However, it is obligatory on the historian to also (occasionally) notice individuals whose influence on history was malign rather than salutary. One such person was the Hindu ideologue M.S. Golwalkar, whose birth anniversary his followers are marking this year.
Early initiation
Born in February 1906, Golwalkar studied and then taught briefly at the Banaras Hindu University (hence the appellation "Guru", which he carried for the rest of his life). He joined the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh as a student, attracting the attention of its founder, Dr. K.B. Hedgewar. When the elder man died in 1940, Golwalkar became the sarchangchalak of the RSS. He headed the organisation until his death some three decades later.
Golwalkar was a man of much energy and dynamism, under whose leadership the RSS steadily grew in power and influence. His ideas are summarised in the book Bunch of Thoughts, which draws upon the lectures he delivered over the years (mostly in Hindi) to RSS shakhas across the country. This identifies the Hindus, and they alone, as the privileged community of India. It disparages democracy as alien to the Hindu ethos and extols the code of Manu, whom Golwalkar salutes as "the first, the greatest, and the wisest lawgiver of mankind".
Angels and demons
The early chapters of Bunch of Thoughts celebrate the glories of the Motherland and its chief religion, this a prelude to the demonisation of those Indians who had the misfortune of not being born into the Hindu fold. Golwalkar writes that the "hostile elements within the country pose a far greater menace to national security than aggressors from outside". He identifies three major "Internal Threats: I: The Muslims; II: The Christians; III: The Communists". A long chapter impugns the patriotism of these groups, speaking darkly of their "future aggressive designs on our country".
On January 30, 1948, Mahatma Gandhi was murdered by Nathuram Godse. Although Godse was not a member of the RSS at the time of the murder, he had been one in the past. And there were reports that in several places RSS members had celebrated his act by distributing sweets. As a precautionary measure, Golwalkar and other RSS workers were put in jail.
Secret documents that this writer has recently seen strongly suggest that even if the RSS was not directly implicated in Gandhi's murder, its main leader was not entirely averse to such a happening. Thus, on December 6, 1947, Golwalkar convened a meeting of RSS workers in the town of Govardhan, not far from Delhi. The police report on this meeting says it discussed how to "assassinate the leading persons of the Congress in order to terrorise the public and to get their hold over them".
Two days later, Golwalkar addressed a crowd of several thousand volunteers at the Rohtak Road Camp in Delhi. The police reporter in attendance wrote that the RSS leader said that "the Sangh will not rest content until it had finished Pakistan. If anyone stood in our way we will have to finish them too, whether it was Nehru Government or any other Government... " Referring to Muslims, he said that no power on earth could keep them in Hindustan. They should have to quit this country... "If they were made to stay here the responsibility would be the Government's and the Hindu community would not be responsible. Mahatma Gandhi could not mislead them any longer. We have the means whereby [our] opponents could be immediately silenced".
Dogged commitment
Six weeks later, Gandhi was assassinated, and Golwalkar and his colleagues put in jail. Released a year later on a bond of good behaviour, they retained a dogged commitment to their ideas. Golwalkar himself argued that "in this land Hindus have been the owners, Parsis and Jews the guests, and Muslims and Christians the dacoits". He asked, maliciously: "Then do all these have the same right over the country?"
Golwalkar saw Muslims, Christians and Communists (among others) as threats to the nation. Other Indians saw him and his ilk as a "Danger to our Secular State". The words in quotes served as the title of an essay on Golwalkar written in 1956 by the Bombay columnist D.F. Karaka. The RSS leader, noted Karaka, "thinks in terms of Hindu India and only Hindu India". As one who had many criticisms to make of the Prime Minister of the day, the columnist nonetheless believed that "it is necessary for all of us whatever our differences are with Mr. Nehru to stand firm with him on this point, namely, that ours is a secular state and that whether we are Hindus, Muslims, Parsis or Christians, freedom of religion, which is guaranteed to us under our Constitution should not be allowed to be crucified at the altar of the RSS â the organisation from which came the man who murdered Mahatma Gandhi".
Failed project
Karaka's column was sparked by the celebration by the RSS of the 50th birthday of Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar. In this, the year of his 100th birth anniversary, all I need do is endorse Karaka's words. For, Golwalkar was a guru of hate, whose life's malevolent work was â as Jawaharlal Nehru so memorably put it â to make India into a "Hindu Pakistan". That project has not succeeded yet, and may it never succeed either.
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Guest - 12-06-2006
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What secret documents? Who is this writer and what levels of access does he have?
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Guest - 12-06-2006
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Weren't the commies trying to do that? There was even a movie "Bhavani Junction" based on such commie conspiracy to kill Gandhi to get india become a communist state.
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Guest - 12-06-2006
Guha's gobar kicked back in his face
A considered rejoinder to puerile purveyors of hate
Last week I was reading an article by Ramachandra Guha on Guruji Golwalkar (1906 - 1973) under the title The Guru of Hate. As a learned historian with a track record no less than that of Herodotus, Thucydides, Edward Gibbon, G M Trevelyan and Arnold Toynbee in the realms of historiography in the Western tradition and Jadunath Sarkar, R C Majumdar and K A Neelakanta Sastri in the Indian context, Ramachandra Guha has declared with magisterial aplomb, suffused with pseudo-secular suavity that Guruji Golwalkar was The Guru of Hate. To quote his exact and inspiring(!?) words which will live in history, famed in song and legend for generations to come: 'Golwalkar's book disparages democracy as alien to the Hindu ethos and extols the code of Manu... THIS column generally deals more -much more - in appreciation than in depreciation. However, it is obligatory on the historian to also (occasionally) notice individuals whose influence on history was MALIGN rather than salutary. One such person was the Hindu ideologue M S Golwalkar, whose birth anniversary his followers are marking this year'. When Nathuram Godse was sentenced to death for the murder of Mahatma Gandhi, the learned judge categorically declared that 'neither the RSS nor Guruji Golwalkar had anything to do with that act of unpardonable crime'. Most of our pseudo-secular journalists today, under the economic hegemony of the secular mafia of mass media, would be too willing to do 'investigative' journalism in the name of objective secular history ? to sell their non-existent souls for a mess of pottage ? in order to find out whether Justice G D Khosla who gave the final verdict was saffronized or communal in his family background which influenced him to give a verdict in favour of the RSS and Guruji Golwakar. In this context let us hear the pontifical time-defying secular verdict of Ramachandra Guha: 'On 30 January, 1948, Mahatma Gandhi was murdered by Nathuram Godse. Although Godse was not a member of the RSS at the time of the murder, he had been one in the past. And there were reports that in several places RSS members had celebrated his act by distributing sweets. As a precautionary measure, Golwalkar and other RSS workers were put in jail. Secret documents that this writer has recently seen strongly suggest that even if the RSS was not directly implicated in Gandhi's murder, its main leader was not entirely averse to such a happening'. I never knew that journalists can function as unpaid agents of the police force in India which was described by Justice Mullah of the Allahabad High Court in a historic pronouncement as 'there is no more organized lawless criminal force in the country than the Indian Police Force'.
Suitably readapting the words of George Orwell from his brilliant essay 'Politics and the English Language', I would like to say that the political language of Indian journalists of global fame (if not influence!) like Ramachandra Guha is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder justiciable through the sordid mill of one sided journalism in order to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
George Orwell had many of our bumptious pseudo-secular journalists in view when he wrote with biting sarcasm in the same essay referred to above: 'A man may take to drink because he feels himself to be a failure, and then fail all the more completely because he drinks. It is rather the same thing that is happening to the English language.
Guruji Golwalkar
(1906 - 1973)
It becomes ugly and inaccurate because our thoughts are foolish, but the slovenliness of our language makes it easier for us to have foolish thoughts. The point is that the process is REVERSIBLE'. Aaya Rams and Gaya Rams, Thekha Rams and Sub-jante Rams of the secular mafia mass media are working round the clock to make NEWSPEAK the official language of our degenerate nation today. Our great journalists let the meaning of their concealed prejudice and hatred of things Hindu choose the word and not the other way about. Good prose is like a window-pane. In the sordid world of journalistic prose, the worst thing one can do with words is to surrender to them with pseudo-secular fervour. In the Indian context it means surrender not only to chosen non-saffronized words but also to chosen tycoons in the menacing mafia of mass media pervading the country.
Five years ago, as a private citizen of no significance, I had the opportunity to scrutinize and verify the available official records in the National Archives in New Delhi. Even if according to our mighty journalists of global stature, Justice GD Khosla was prejudiced in his verdict, they cannot so stupidly ignore or overlook the fact that Sardar Vallabai Patel, the Deputy Prime Minister and Home Minister in the Government of India had also sent a letter to Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, the Prime Minister, on 27 February, 1948, less than a month after Mahatma Gandhi's assassination on 30 January, 1948 : 'I have kept myself almost in daily touch with the progress of the investigations regarding Bapu's assassination case. All the main accused have given long and detailed statements of their activities. It also clearly emerges from the statements that the RSS was not involved in it at all'. These words of Patel would be dismissed as 'saffronized' and 'communal' by the sweet suckers of honeyed secularism in all our major English Newspapers with the full benediction of the UPA Government in New Delhi.
Sardar Patel in a letter to Guruji Golwalkar paid this tribute to the RSS: 'There is no doubt that the RSS has served the Hindu society in times of crisis. In riot-torn areas where their help was needed, the youths of the Sangh protected the women and the children and did a lot for them. No one can doubt that the RSS provided succour and safety to Hindus in times of difficulty'.
Field Marshal Cariappa, whose patriotism can be questioned only by the paid below the table mercenaries in the world of pseudo-journalism, paid his soulful tribute to the RSS after watching their heroic work in Jammu and Kashmir when the Muslim marauders (romantic objects of unrequited love in the eyes of pseudo-secular Indian journalists!) invaded the Kashmir Valley in 1947: 'RSS is my heart's work. My dear young men, don't be disturbed by uncharitable comments of interested persons. Look ahead! Go ahead! The country is standing in need of your services'.
I remember reading an article by Kushwant Singh, by no means a saffronized communal Hindu like myself, in the Illustrated Weekly of India on 26 November, 1972 (page 49). Here are his observations as an independent spirited heroic journalist and not as a self-proclaimed historian of global fame: 'There are some people against whom you build up malice without knowing them. Guru Golwalkar had long been on the top of my hate list. What with the RSS doings in communal riots, the assassination of the Mahatma, the talk of changing India from a secular to a Hindu state! However as a journalist I could not resist the chance of meeting him. I expected to run into a cordon of uniformed swayamsevaks. There are none; not even plainclothes CID to take down the number of my car. It is a middle-class apartment with an appearance of puja going on inside-rows of sandals outside, fragrance of agarbatti, bustle of women behind the scenes; tinkle of utensils and crockery. In a small room sit a dozen men in spotless white kurtas and dhotis - all looking newly washed as only Maharashtrian Brahmins manage to do. And Guru Golwalkar: a frail man in mid-sixties: black hair curling to his shoulders; a moustache covering his mouth; a wispy grey bread dangling down his chin. An unerasable smile and dark eyes twinkling through his bifocals. He looks like an Indian Ho Chi Minh. For a man who had only recently undergone surgery for breast cancer he looks remarkably fit and cheerful'.
When the interview started, I told Guruji Golwalkar 'I don't know where to begin. I am told you shun publicity and your organization is secret.'
Guruji said: 'It is true we do not seek publicity but there is nothing secret about us. There is no militarism in our movement. We value discipline - which is a different matter.'
Even a cursory reading of this article by Kushwant Singh will show that he was overwhelmed by the simplicity, decency, decorum, humility and reverence of Guruji Golwalkar. To sum up in Kushwant Singh's own words: 'Was I impressed? I admit I was. He did not try to persuade me to his point of view. He made me feel that he was open to persuasion. I accepted his invitation to visit him in Nagpur and see things for myself. Maybe I can bring him round to making Hindu-Muslim unity the main aim of his RSS Or am I being a simple-minded Sardarji?'
Acharya Vinoba Bhave, Rajaji, Jayaprakash Narayan, Mahatma Gandhi and several great men have paid their tribute to the outstanding qualities of Sri Guruji Golwalkar as a fearless leader of national significance. My rejoinder to Ramachandra Guha in this context will be in the words of another Parsi journalist R K Karanjia: 'Guruji Golwalkar had no axe to grind, and in the pursuit of his ideals, languor was not in his heart, weakness was not in his word, weariness was not on his brow. It would be good if other political leaders emulate his example of dedicated life and win the respect and confidence of his followers'.
(The writer is a retired IAS officer)
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Guest - 12-14-2006
Wonder why? In Kerala, itâs Hindus who need help !! Survey Reveals Christians & Muslims Much Better Off
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  Hindus constitute the major chunk of the stateâs poor with an astounding 39.3 lakh living below poverty line
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The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Bharatvarsh - 12-15-2006
Viren maybe the bleeding hearts can also explain why despite being better off than Hindus in wealth and having nearly the same education level as Hindus the Muslim birth rate is double the states average, standard excuses of poverty and lack of education don't work here.
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - acharya - 01-03-2007
Whatâs nectar for secular US is toxin for secular India!
S Gurumurthy
Just a century ago, Max Weber, declared that the Hindus and Buddhists remain backward because they believed in their ancient, faulty faiths!
Weber was a celebrated socio-economic thinker of the West. He counselled that belief in Karma - in which, he believed, fatalism hid - led people to accept their lot as their fate. He thus saw the Hindu-Buddhist faith in Karma as fatal to development itself. He diagnosed that Karma-centric faiths, which denied hopes to individuals, rendered their adherents unfit for modern development process.
Indian intellectualism, particularly in free India, carbon-copied Weberâs thesis and almost accepted that the traditional Indian beliefs are the nemesis of India. This turned the Indian establishment thinking apologetic about not just ancient Indian faiths but about ancient India itself!
Under the pressure of Weberâs interpretation, some bright Indian minds sidestepped the Aurobindo-Vivekananda view on ancient India as worldâs future hope. They took refuge in socialist and secular ideas and delegitimised and drove the ancient Indian ideas underground. This enabled free Indiaâs secular intellectualism, which saw ancient Indian thoughts as its principal adversary, declare everything about ancient India - whether it was Patanjaliâs Yoga or Krishnaâs Gita â as saffron toxic and anti-secular. In the end, Weber prevailed over free India.
Now comes, a full century after Weber theorised on how fatal is Karma, a surprising U-turn in the West. The very idea of Karma, which Weber had diagnosed as the nemesis of India, seems to be emerging as the life vest of the West! The West, fatigued with the âgreed-is-goodâ capitalism for over a century, is now looking for an alternative to the greed-based capitalism.
What is the alternative, which it sees or seeks? Believe it. It sees the alternative in Karma, the very idea Weber had condemned as anti-development.<b> International Business Week in its recent issue (Oct 20, 2006) sees the emergence of âKarma Capitalismâ, that is, capitalism founded on the idea of karma! The magazine defines karma capitalism as a gentler, more emphatic ethos that resonates in the post-Enron and post-technology bubble in the West.
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âBig business is embracing Indian philosophy,â says the âBusiness Weekâ. Look at what it sees as Indian philosophy. âPhrases from ancient Hindu texts such as the Bhagwat Gita are popping up in management tomes and on web sites of consultants,â it says. And it goes on: âTop business schools have introduced âself-masteryâ classes that use Indian methods to help managers boost their leadership skills and find inner peace in lives dominated by workâ.
Not only that. Bhagwat Gita, according to âBusiness Weekâ, has replaced the 6th century BC Chinese classic Art of War of Tsun Tsu, which dominated business schools two decades earlier. The magazine says that while it used to be âhip in management circlesâ to quote from the Chinese classic, the âtrendy ancient Eastern text on Thursdayis Bhagwat Gitaâ, which the magazine says âmore introspectiveâ.
Earlier this year, says the magazine, a manager at Sprint Nextel Corp penned the inevitable how-to guide: âBhagwat Gita on Effective Leadershipâ. More important, the magazine says, Indian born strategists are helping to transform the US corporations. It names several Indians who are among the worldâs hottest business gurus. About 10 percent of the professors at business schools such as Harvard, Kellogg, and others are of Indian descent, it says. The senior executives who come to these schools are exposed to the Indian values that are reflected in how these professors of Indian origin think and articulate, the magazine says.
The most influential ones, the magazine says, acknowledge that common themes pervade the work of these professors of Indian origin - like that executives should be motivated by broader purpose than money; that there should be a holistic approach that integrates needs of the shareholders, employees, customers, society and environment; and that the shareholder-driven agenda must be replaced by stakeholder-focused approach. The Business World says that âIndian thinkers are affecting not only the way the managers run companies. They are also furthering their search for personal fulfilmentâ. In short, it says that the Indian thinking and Indian thinkers are greatly influencing Corporate America.
Corporate Americaâs influence on the political and economic philosophies of the West is well acknowledged. Economic globalisation has only deepened that influence. The US corporate think tanks exert considerable influence over global media and politics. In effect corporate America is the trend setter for the world. Ironically it was the US that proclaimed itself as the living model of Weberâs prescriptions as the foundation of modern ideas of capitalism and development. And that is where, surprisingly and unbelievably, the U-turn is taking place.
For secular India Bhagwat Gita and Karma Yoga are toxic substances to be kept out of the Indian discourse. The Indian management gurus and spiritual leaders are doing what Swami Vivekananda did over a century ago - namely proclaim that greatness of the Indian thought in the US and import it from the US to India. They are actually validating in the US what has been driven underground in secular India.
If the Indian management gurus did something similar in India it would attract the abuse of the seculars that they are toxifying even business and economics with saffron concepts! It may even charge that the corporate America is becoming addicted to toxic saffron. That is the measure of its hate for thoughts and things Indian. Yes the secular India dismisses as toxin what secular America realises as nectar.
gurumurthy@epmltd.com
http://www.newindpress.com/column/Column.a...By=S+Gurumurthy
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Guest - 01-06-2007
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NEW DELHI: In the midst of much pro-Saddam sentiment, the RSS has struck out at "corrupt Indian politicians" describing them as "desi Saddam Husseins" and demanded that they be made accountable for the nation's woes now and not after 27 years, the way the Iraqi dictator was.
The Sangh is particularly irked that at time when incidents like the Noida killings are taking place and citizens are threatened and exposed, politicians get heavy security cover at public expense. An editorial in the weekly Panchjanya said the Nithari episode had exposed the police-politician nexus and hence all the security provided to politicians should be withdrawn. Let the political parties spend on private security arrangements or deposit the money spent on security in the government account, it suggested.
Security personnel, it said, were paid with public money and should first be responsible for protecting citizens, who faced the brunt of any "jihad assault or criminal attack". But ironically, after every such incident, it was the politicians who got enhanced security cover and not the citizen, who was the victim.
The editorial said jihadis had killed more than 60,000 people and Naxals too had killed tens of thousands. Yet, there was no security policy for the common citizen. The corrupt politician, it said, "who would not be noticed even by a crow, demands and gets a huge security cover and drives the busy city roads with sirens and gun-toting black cats."
The Sangh weekly said people when they saw such politicians, hated them and soon a day would come when none of the security arrangements would be able to help them. These "desi Saddams" will have to face the day of reckoning soon, it added.
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Bharatvarsh - 01-31-2007
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->One nation, two laws
Why is the 'equitable' Prime Minister sitting on the Uniform Civil Code necessitated by Article 44 of 1950, asks Prafull Goradia
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh sounded confused last month while addressing a meeting at the FICCI auditorium to celebrate the birth anniversary of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose. As the Finance Minister in PV Narasimha Rao's Government, he proved his mettle in economics by beginning the process of liberalisation. Therefore, when he pronounces the word "equity", his audience is reminded of common stock in a corporation, stocks and shares that carry no fixed dividend or those shares which earn an equal dividend based on the company's performance.
All this in contrast to preference shares, which attract fixed dividend but preferentially. Or deferred shares which are rewarded with high dividend in a successful year. Now as Prime Minister, his statements must be taken seriously when he asserts that Muslims must get the first share of the economic cake and other citizens of India wait for the remainder. In the very nature of the declaration, there is discrimination against non-Muslims. A preference for Muslims clearly meant a prejudice towards the others.
My physician speaks fluent Urdu and is generally an admirer of all things Islamic. On January 23, he happened to compliment me on my petition being admitted by the Supreme Court. My plea is that the haj subsidy is iniquitous. Either it should be abolished or, if not, I should be exempted from the payment of tax. He went on to add that it is the first time that he has agreed with me on my Hindu-Muslim views. I reacted by saying: Doctor Saheb, if you like Muslims so much why did you cross over from Lahore to Hindustan during the Partition? If, incidentally, it was your parents' decision, you are still free to go back.
Economics and history are not always congenial bedfellows. The former is concerned with only today's reality whereas the latter deals with only the past. That apart, Mr Manmohan Singh cannot be excused for forgetting that the country was divided solely on the criterion of Muslims and non-Muslims. He must even be aware that Qaid-e-Azam, while proposing partition, had asserted that there is little in common between Hindus and Muslims.
Their food, clothes, designs of their houses and their heroes were very different. They cannot therefore live together. Qaid-e-Azam, therefore, went on to insist on an exchange of population whereby all non-Muslims would vacate Pakistan in exchange with Muslims of the sub-continent concentrated in Hindustan.
Approximately, one-third of the territory of India was handed over as a separate homeland for the sub-continental ummah. Never before or since 1947, has any religious minority in the world been given a homeland. The very word minority attracts safeguards for equal treatment with the majority. In 1974, Turkey occupied a part of Cyprus. Although still under occupation, no country has recognised the separation. East Timor was also forcibly occupied in 1975 by President Sukarno's Indonesia but did not become free as a result of the partition.
So much for the partition at the national level. In individual terms, the fact that Mr Manmohan Singh's family was driven out of his village and forced to migrate to Hindustan, surely cannot be termed a piece of justice. Articles 29 and 30 represent discrimination against Hindus as they give preferential treatment to minority institutions. They also lead to additional finances being allocated to them. Would Mr Singh then call these articles a charter of equity or that of counter equity.
The fact that imams and muazzins of a large number of mosques in India are paid from state funds is again a preferential treatment. Madarsas are, in the nature of things, minority institutions that enjoy subsidies but teach little beyond religion.
The flip side of this discrimination against Hindus is monumentalised in hundreds and hundreds of mandirs, which have been converted into masjids. Ironically, many of them are looked after by the Archaeological Survey of India as protected monuments and yet are open for ibadat on most days. A large number of them house madarsas; an example of a large madarsa is that housed in the Jami Masjid at Etawah.
One country should have one law. Muslims are allowed to practice their separate personal law. On the other hand, the criminal face of the shari'ah is not imposed on Muslim criminals who take shelter under the Indian Penal Code. Muslim women cannot have four husbands but the men can have four wives. A Uniform Civil Code was exhorted by Article 44 of the Constitution way back in January 1950. To this day no attempt has been made to draft any law. Are these all symptoms of equity in Mr Singh's tarazoo?
The zamindari system was abolished on the morrow of Independence and the zamindars were sent packing without any real compensation. The princely states were also taken over on the promise of privy purses. The Government of Indira Gandhi violated the promise and took away the privy purses. On the other hand, the wakfs or Muslim trusts remained untouched and above the laws of the land such as the Urban Land Ceiling Act and property tax.
According to the Sachar Committee, the wakfs own 6 lakh acres of land worth thousands of crores of rupees. It should be recalled that wakfs were formed by conquerors after confiscating lands and properties, which belonged to Hindus. In effect, wakfs comprise of ill-gotten booty. Yet no thought has ever been given to their abolition unlike the zamindari and the princely states.
In Caliph's own Turkey, the wakfs were nationalised way back in 1916. A number of Islamic countries like Egypt and Tunisia have also abolished wakfs on the ground that they were economic deadwood. In fact, the word wakf means the dead hand. Would Dr Singh call this act of omission as equity?
Most streets named after British viceroys like Curzon Road have been changed but the likes of Aurangzeb Road adorn the centre of India's capital. Is this tantamount to equity? Calcutta has been renamed Kolkata, Madras as Chennai but Ahmedabad has not become Kamavati because it offends the Muslim sentiment. What Mr Singh's Government is doing is nothing but appeasement.
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The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - utepian - 02-08-2007
Rahul Dravid attends RSS function; Pseudos Pissed <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Left parties have expressed their displeasure over Indian cricket team captain Rahul Dravid attending a function organised by an RSS-affiliated body in Nagpur in January.
On January 20, Dravid inaugurated a "surya namaskar" (a yoga-based ritual to worship the sun) programme organised on the occasion of Makar Sankranti by Vidya Bharati, an RSS-affiliated organisation that runs a chain of schools. After lighting the lamp at a gathering in the Ramnagar area of Nagpur, Dravid went on to give a speech and asked the attending children to do 'surya namaskar' daily. It keeps the body fit, Dravid added.
Following the event, RSS mouthpiece Panchjanya carried an article on the event complete with a picture of Dravid, flanked by RSS members, addressing the audience. The article was carried in the February 4 issue of the weekly magazine. In the issue, dated February 11, Panchjanya again made a reference to Dravid, saying that after his participation in the January 20 programme, Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister Shivraj Singh followed suit and organised a similar event.
The Left said on Tuesday that what Dravid played at the Ramnagar Maidan in Nagpur on January 20 was not cricket. Both CPIM and CPI raised objections to the fact that one of the most famous cricketers in the country is rubbing shoulders with an organisation that spreads "sectarian politics" and is "fascist in nature".
"He (Dravid) might be the Indian cricket captain but he is also an individual and an adult. In the end, it is his choice. And if his choice of company is the RSS, good luck to him. Everyone knows, that RSS promotes an ideology that is sectarian. It is his choice if he wants to be made use of by the RSS," CPIM politburo member, Brinda Karat, told HT. She added that the 'surya namaskar' is not a monopoly of the RSS and millions of Indians go through the ritual everyday.
CPI's National Secretary D Raja was more direct and said that Dravid should not have taken part in an RSS function. "Why should he take part in a function organised by RSS, which believes in a fascist and communal ideology? Why should he allow himself to be identified with RSS," Raja asked.
"I was asked to got to a function where a lot of school children were coming to talk on the benefits of yoga. I have no political leanings. Yoga is something where even the Indian cricket team does. I had no idea that this could be used for political purposes,ââ Rahul Dravid told HT from Calcutta on Tuesday evening.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - utepian - 02-08-2007
Brinda Karat has me in splits. After defying benefits of Yoga all these years, she says this?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->She added that the 'surya namaskar' is not a monopoly of the RSS and millions of Indians go through the ritual everyday.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So if Suryanamaskar is not a monopoly of the RSS, why do the Commies not promote it too? Far from promoting, they oppose it!
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Guest - 02-09-2007
I think the seculars are going to gang-up on Dravid for his RSS function attendance. Get the message to the people that you can be anybody but a hindu in india.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->BCCI initiates inquiry into Desai's report
PTI | New Delhi
The BCCI on Thursday initiated an inquiry into the leak of Indian team manager Chetan Desai's confidential South Africa tour report, saying it was a "serious issue."
BCCI said President Sharad Pawar received Desai's report on Thursday, which would be "studied and analysed" before any action is taken.
"The President received the report today. We are now trying to find out how it was leaked to the media before it reached the President's office," BCCI Vice President Rajiv Shukla said.
Shukla said Pawar has decided to convene a meeting of office-bearers to study Desai's report and also the reports of previous tour managers.
"We will go through the contents of all these reports and if any corrective measure needs to be taken, it will be done," he said.
"We cannot definitely ignore the contents of these reports," he added. <i>(especially since Dravid showed his saffron colours!)</i>
Desai's critical report in which he questioned Virender Sehwag's attitude towards the game and captain Rahul Dravid's stubbornness in team selection created a flutter in cricket circles.
The report also claimed that Sehwag and coach Greg Chappell were involved in a feud during the Durban Test.
Captain Rahul Dravid, however, dismissed Desai as a person who had no standing in the game and had refused to comment on the report.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Virender Sehwag<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
His marriage was a big thing in Delhi. His father and he is BJP supporter.
9 Ashoka Road, Arun Jaitleyâs residence was the venue of Sehwagâs wedding.
So you can expect Congress and COmmie are after everything which is Hindu.
I asked them check their own mother, they may hate her and may get surprise. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Guest - 02-09-2007
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Telegraph
February 02, 2007
<b>A SENSE OF HUMILIATION</b>
- Why the bhoomi puja in Singur is such a great let-down
by Ashok Mitra
This piece is being written not from anger. It is occasioned by sorrow, despondency and, one must add, a sense of humiliation.
Like a bad coin, the Tata small car project in Singur, in the district of Hooghly in West Bengal, keeps turning up in the news. Controversies continue to rage over the procedure of acquiring land for the purpose of setting up the plant, the justness or otherwise of the amount of compensation paid for the individual holdings taken over, the terms negotiated by the state government with the Tatas concerning the fate of those displaced from the land and, finally, whether the re-industrialization of West Bengal would have to be entirely dependent on the
magnanimity of those who had de-industrialized it in the first place, the state filling the role of only a complaisant spectator.
These controversies need not detain us at this moment. What however does is a curious event that took place in Singur on January 21 last. <b>On that day, a bhoomi puja was arranged there to signal the start of the small car project.</b> It is not altogether clear who sponsored the ceremony. The corporate group of the Tatas is dominated by members of the Parsi community; it would be somewhat extraordinary on their part to organize a Hindu ritual as an integral part of any of their enterprises. Research concerning the matter has not progressed very far; what would be interesting to know is whether, in the course of the past one century of their being around, the <b>Tatas ever commenced the operations of a project with the observation of the quintessentially Hindu religious observance, bhoomi puja.</b>
There is something of more serious import. According to statements made by spokesmen of the state government, the 997 acres of land on which the project is supposed to come up have been acquired by the state on behalf of the West Bengal Industrial Development Corporation. The entire land is supposed to continue to be in the possession of the corporation; the Tatas are merely being offered the privilege of establishing the factory on its expanse. Were the Tatas keen to have a bhoomi puja, it should therefore have been obligatory on their part to seek the formal approval of the WBIDC. Was such permission sought and granted? Assuming the response to the query to be in the affirmative, did the state industrial corporation seek the views of the Left Front government in the matter? The corporation, after all, is wholly owned by the state government.
The question of permission apart, a number of other facts too deserve to be taken note of in this connection. The puja ceremony on January 21 was reportedly attended by top-ranking representatives of the state administration, including the district magistrate and the district superintendent of police; the managing director of the WBIDC was also present. <b>The entire ceremony was evidently conducted under their patronage, and the state administration, one cannot abandon the feeling, took a leading part in organizing the puja, including taking care of such details as renting the services of a pujari or fetching from the market the coconut shell which was split into two as part of the religiosity. </b>The Tata officials in attendance were from outside the state and would not have been in a position to take charge of these things.
Whatever manner the issues involved are analysed, <b>one particular conclusion is inescapable. It was bhoomi puja performed</b> on what is claimed to be still government property; it was organized by government officials qua government officials.
<b>And this is precisely where anguish begins to seize the mind.</b> The multitude of its supporters and admirers look up to <b>the Left Front government in West Bengal as the repository of secular ideals; they pin their faith on it to act as vanguard in the relentless fight against the fundamentalists and religious obscurantists. </b>They consider the left as the only effective countervailing force to crush the conspiracy launched in the <b>Bharatiya Janata Party-ruled states, like Gujarat and Madhya Pradesh, to Hinduize secular India.</b> As they view it, India is a secular republic; the country's Constitution says so. The commitment of the Constitution must be honoured and, where necessary, defended till the last drop of blood is shed; only the left, millions across the country have been accustomed to think, could be trusted with this assignment.
<b>Now they will be in a state of shell shock.</b>
Secularism does not imply, as leaders of the Indian National Congress have trained themselves to assume, embracing all religions with the same fervour. It should, on the other hand, mean that the state maintains equal distance from, and shows equal indifference to, the different religions. The secular-minded in the nation cannot but be devastated by the tidings of the bhoomi puja at Singur sponsored by the Left Front government. It would be of little use for higher-ups in the state government to pretend that they are not supposed to know of happenings
at the base of the system. Singur has been a sensitive political issue for months; the suggestion that important officers belonging to the state government could have participated in the ritual without the knowledge of their political superiors is beyond belief. Nor is there any report that any disciplinary proceedings have been started against these officers for the <b>outrageous breach of secular principles they have committed.</b>
Put on the defensive, the West Bengal ministers may admit, sheepishly, that what took place was because of an oversight. That would hardly wash. For the BJP government in Gujarat, presided over by Narendra Modi, could similarly claim that it was not possible for them to keep track of the genocide in Baroda, Ahmedabad and elsewhere in their state during those grisly days in 2002.
No point in beating about the bush, it is a great let-down.<b> India is currently a battlefield where religious fundamentalists are making every attempt to capture positions of vantage so that they could drag the country back to the Dark Ages</b>. Those confronting them in different parts of the country and in different spheres used to refer to the Left Front regime in <b>West Bengal as the guardian angel, protecting the ramparts of secularism founded on the bedrock of rationality</b>.
The Left Front will henceforth be diminished in their eyes. In the process, it itself will feel diminished. More than a quarter of the population of West Bengal belongs to denominations other than Hindu. Some of the land taken over in Singur belonged to members of such denominations. <b>What frame of mind would these people be in once they are told of the Hindu ritual observed on the land they once owned and has since been taken over by a government which avows to follow secular principles?</b>
<b>Finally, there is the issue of right to information.</b> Is it a part of the formal or informal arrangements the state government has entered into with the Tata group that the latter should be allowed to do a bhoomi puja on the land temporarily transferred to them? Or is it the state government's point of view that, unless the Tatas were permitted to do the puja, they would have refused to invest in West Bengal and moved to some other state? If the latter be the case, would that not be a bit like, say, the government of India arguing that if Goa was not converted into the snakepit of a sex resort, no foreign direct investment would come to the country and travel elsewhere?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
All this secualr drama about fundamentalism, dark ages, blah blah.. for a simple cracking coconut and bhoomi puja!!! <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:roll--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ROTFL.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='ROTFL.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->All this secualr drama about fundamentalism, dark ages, blah blah.. for a simple cracking coconut and bhoomi puja!!! <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I hope his family stays away from Durga Puja. He is now modern man, do his house warming by Rap or Hard Metals, inplace of cracking coconut, he is cracking his own head with Red Label. In place of giving moral teaching to his kids, he must be teaching them how to get stoned early morning. <!--emo&
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The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - utepian - 02-09-2007
The Sreebhumi Durga puja, considered a must-see of the festival is organized by the CPI(M). Lets put it this way, the organizing committee was elbowed out by the CPI(M). So much for the godlessness of Commies.
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - utepian - 02-10-2007
When did yoga become fascist
We ran a news item about how the left parties had an issue or two about Rahul Dravid attending a Surya Namaskar session. Many people wrote in to express their dismay.
Here's how the responses went.
Mohan from Dubai, UAE said, "As usual, the left parties have no other work and they just want to rake up some issue and fool the public. If Rahul Dravid attended 'Surya Namaskar' session, what is wrong in that? He is free to do what he likes. Brinda Karat and Raja of CPI only crave for media attention."
Indu Prakash from Kuwait felt the left parties had an issue with everything Hindus did.
"Why do the Congress and left parties always brand the RSS and the BJP as party or sect only for Hindus? Is it crime to call your self or to attach yourself to organisation, which says proudly that it spreads Hinduism? Look at ministers who belong to Muslim or Christian community; they always participate in their community functions organised by various organisations. But these are never highlighted. Strange no" he retorted.
David Blaine from Mumbai, India felt there was hardly an issue here.
He said, "This is a classic case of the Left making a mountain out of a molehill."
Harish Kumar from New Delhi, India thought political parties should stay out of such issues. It was an individual's call.
"Rahul Dravid is a citizen of independent India. He is a famous cricketer and a popular personality but he has the right to have his own likes and dislikes. There is no harm in his promoting a noble and healthy cause like 'Surya Namaskar' regardless of who organised the event. Those who didn't like it should better keep mum."
"They have absolutely no right to advice Rahul what he should do or he shoudn't. As Rahul correctly says in an advertisement of an insurance company he may gets advice from many advisors but he takes his own decision."
"CPI and CPI (M) should understand this. It seems that proximity to power has gone into their head and they have started commenting on anything that comes their way."
"Rahul is too gentle to respond appropriately to this. Therefore on behalf of Dravid we, aam janta, should shout out loud: mind your own business!"
Vimayu from Mumbai, India said the left parties had no business branding people as communal.
"Why should one listen to what the Left says? Who gives them the right to pronounce some one as communal? Let the people decide what is good or bad."
Vijay from Jersey City, India said the left parties' were indulging in double standards.
"CPM and CPI do not have any ideology. If they have ideology they should show that in Singur, West Bengal. Also I would like to correct the writer, never term 'Surya Namaskar' as 'a yoga-based ritual to worship the sun'."
"It is not about worshipping sun. If you do not know about it, better consult experts. Today everyone knows yoga is the best way to keep us healthy. CPM and CPI are the worst lot among politicians. They are opposing it just for the sake of their vote bank. Brinda Karat is a brainless lady, she was opposing Baba Ramdev's yoga and she tried to malign him and his brand of yoga."
"Yoga promotes a healthy lifestyle. There is nothing wrong if a famous person or cricketer promotes yoga. Who is CPM ad CPI to comment on his decision? He has not done anything wrong."
PK from St Cloud, MN, USA argued about their selective espousal of liberal values.
"Left front's reaction is deplorable. Where were these guys when Azharuddin was indulging in bribery and anti-India activities? Down with the communists and kudos to Dravid!"
Laxmikant from St Louis, USA requested the left parties to grow up.
"What rubbish! Does someone need to take permission from these so-called leftists to attend even a school function?"
"Common man, be mature. I request media not to publish such junk statements!"
Ganesh asked us (HT) to desist from printing such stuff! <!--emo&:bevil--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/b_evil.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='b_evil.gif' /><!--endemo-->
"This is ridiculous! HT, please do not publish such articles. What in the world is wrong if someone attends a yoga session?"
The Great Indian Political Debate - 2 - Guest - 02-10-2007
Post 236:
Communist and cheerleader Ashok Mitra writes in Telegraph, making reference to Hindus and 'Hindu fundamentalism':
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>India is currently a battlefield where religious fundamentalists are making every attempt to capture positions of vantage so that they could drag the country back to the Dark Ages.</b> Those confronting them in different parts of the country and in different spheres used to refer to the Left Front regime in West Bengal as the guardian angel, protecting the ramparts of secularism founded on the bedrock of rationality.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Since communists are picking on Rahul Dravid and Bhumi pooja and what not, I feel I am entitled to point out how conditioned and ignorant the communist/psecular 'intelligentsia' in India is.
This komrade is a perfect example of the lack of education and absence of (true) rationality amongst the 'secular' mob in our country. They study only Marxism or selective, embellished communist history and/or know only the christian framework and then think they know it all. Look how he uses two concepts in one small paragraph that are entirely christian: the irrelevant 'guardian angel' and more importantly 'dragging country X <i>back</i> to the <i>Dark Ages</i>'.
Communists just don't get that if they can't say something sensible they should not open their claptraps. Choke Miter just made a fool of himself and those he's representing. They need to learn Indian history instead of hearing second-hand stories of western history and foolishly extrapolating them into India.
The <i>Dark Ages</i> is a term used for a specific time-frame in a specific geographic locality: Europe
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In history we divide time into three parts, Ancient Times, the Middle Ages, and Modern Times; and we consider the Middle Ages (as we ought to say) a period of dark and turbulent semi-barbarism lying between two phases of civilization, ancient paganism and modern paganism.
...
<b>let us be quite clear</b> what we mean by the Middle Ages. Roughly we mean from about 500 A.D. when paganism and the Roman Empire were extinct, to about 1500 or 1600 A.D. <b>The first half of this period, say from about 500 to 1100, we call the Dark Ages.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The Church is deeply and terribly responsible for the Dark Ages</b>, for the suspension of the evolution of civilization for a thousand years. Today there would be -- as will be the condition in a few centuries -- no war, little or no poverty, no ignorance, no crime, and infinitely more happiness, if the Christian church had been a civilizing force. ...
<i>-- The Story Of Religious Controversy, by Joseph McCabe, historian and former Franciscan monk</i><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> ( http://freetruth.50webs.org/A2b.htm )
Both the above quotes are from historian McCabe and unlike Choking Miter, McCabe knows what he is talking about.
"The first half of this period, say from about 500 to 1100, we call the Dark Ages."
and "The Church is deeply and terribly responsible for the Dark Ages" -> this gives both the specific time and place for the Dark Ages. That is, in 500-1100 ce and location is where the Church ruled: meaning Europe (and Russia).
Now, christianity is the religion that caused the Dark Ages and it is therefore the only religion that can drag a country into the Dark Ages. In specific, it can only drag a country <i>back</i> into the Dark Ages if the country is European.
The only christian rule we had in India was under the colonial terrorists from Europe. And no 'Hindoo fundamentalist' wants India to go back to <i>that</i>.
Now, if Choking-On-His-Miter meant to write 'dark ages' and not the Dark Ages (no indication that he did, he referred to 'back to the Dark Ages', but I'll give him some leeway), then we will see the following situation. There was a very dark age in India: under Islam when Dharmic people where tormented and genocided; there was another very dark age: of christian colonial imperialism in India when Hindu people were also tormented and genocided. In both cases, the rational temperament of our Dharmic religions suffered under the irrational cloud of the evil christoislamic ideologies.
In short: the religious fundamentalists in both the dark ages that India experienced were.... christoislamics and NOT Hindus.
To continue using the 'dark age' re-interpretation of Where's-My-Miter's caterwaul, we will turn to considering communism. When's he going to mention the dark ages the world has experienced under his ideology? Under Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol-Pot, Kim Jong-Il. Is Choke-on-your-Miter wanting his chosen political party (and ideology) to take India into the dark ages of brainwashing, torment and genocide and confused 'rationality'? (Their understanding and usage of rationality is communist doublespeak for 'carefully programmed ignorance')
In conclusion, Death-by-Choking-On-Miter should not ever have been promoted to writing from his previous position as one of the many Maoist militant executionists. His overseers should have made him stick to his original thuggery activities that communists always put their foot soldiers to: he should have been kept to his former terrorist militant ways of driving Indians out of their villages with maoist rebel guns pointed at them, all whilst promising 'egalitarianism' and 'rights' (doublespeak again) of the proletariat.