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Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 05-02-2009 <b>Young cleric held for âsodomizingâ 10-yr-old</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A young cleric at a southeast Delhi madrassa has been arrested for allegedly sodomizing a 10-year-old boy. Police said the incident took place on Tuesday night in Hazrat Nizamuddin area, when the had gone to attend his classes. The boy reported the incident to his mother on Thursday, after which she lodged a complaint with police and the 21-year-old was arrested. A city court sent the cleric to fourteen daysâ judicial custody on Friday. The victimâs mother and local residents allegedly caught hold of the accused and thrashed him at the madrassa, after they came to know of the incident, police said. The accused hails from Khureji area in East Delhi and had joined the madrassa of Kali Masjid only a fortnight earlier.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Radical Islam and internal security - G.Subramaniam - 05-03-2009 Hindu Samhati Thursday, April 30, 2009 Commentary : The Indian Elections & The Hindu Populace Samhati Sambad April 30, 2009 Commentary : The Indian Elections & The Hindu Populace The heat of Elections is on. Election Trumpets sounds in high pitch. This is the season of the Political Parties. All of them are in the battle field. But the season is not only made for them. This season creates opportunity for others also. For example, this is a lucrative season for the advertisement agencies. The business grows abundantly for election materials like banners , hoardings, posters, flexes, key-rings etc. etc. And the season is equally ripe for those minority goons, who have been keeping their eyes upon the Hindu women and girls very with an insatiable desire or lust. The purpose behind it is two dimensional. First, the Abduction of Hindu girls and women for nikaha, i.e. marriage with Muslims to fulfill personal pleasure; secondly to traffic them to other states or abroad as a lucrative trade. And obviously, ensure a ticket for the voyage to Jannat (Islamic paradise) by dint of virtue for converting, hence spoiling a Hindu women (this is best if she is a Hindu virgin)- a kaffir as per Quranic dictum. This can be done at any time. But this is de time la carte, for deriving more advantages in this election season. No leader, political party and peers groups will be able to raise even the little finger towards our minority brothers for such pious activities, let alone call it a pure crime. If the Police puts a feeble effort to arrest them, we level it immediately as an attack towards minority, and therefore, communal. Under the veil of a Democracy inter-alias Votecracy , we are bound to protect our Muslims as the priceless symbol of the minority status-a pride of self-proclaimed pseudo-secular democracy. The political leaders are bound to take the side of minorities to ensure their support as a vote-bank. As this secret spreads open all round the corner, the police do nothing but shamelessly indulging the hooligans. As a result, the Hindu girls are abducted or trafficked regularly in this season. Majority of them are minors. Their beleaguered parents are roaming from door to door, helplessly, with moistening eyes. The parents do not dare to convey their pain to the leaders of political parties at the face of their ânot so important â-secular gesture. These victims are finally find no other way but to appeal those Muslims, those culprits, marauders to get back their girls at the last resort. And it is the eventuality that those Muslim gangsters kick the Hindu parents out with an ultimatum to cut them into pieces and threaten them of more such dire consequences of their family, if they go any further. As the election slogans are roaring high in the air, a series of news of abduction of Hindu girls and women are coming profusely from the villages of West Bengal every day to our central office of Hindu Samhati. If we want to weave the incidents together in an overall back-drop of election scenario of rural Bengal, we can only hear a heart rendering wailing, sobs and cry, sounded with formidable alacrity. And the wail, the pain, the suffering are now being suppressed and erased by the louder sound of the election drums. Under such prevailing circumstances, no Political Party would likely to come forward to protect the dignity of Hindus. Nobody will express the human desire to fight for the existence of the hapless Hindus. It is our firm resolution. Therefore, we confirm, there is no endeavour to protect the persecuted Hindus or rescue the Hindu girls from the Muslim goons at any level. So, Hindu Samhati (HS), on behalf of the full strength of our organization, vows not to support any political party in the ensuing Election to the House of the People. We and the local workers of HS will decide to vote the Candidates or the Political Parties upon their attitude and attributes reflected to the cause of Hindus. We should realize that this Election is not the last one. We have to prepare for the post-election phase. That may be more fatal for the Hindus. But we have to fight for Hindus till the last breath. The protection of Hindus is our ultimate aim, our only goal, our sole mission. Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 05-09-2009 ^ http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/vij...and-naveen.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>vijay r: Mukul Kesavan and Naveen Patnaik</b> may 3rd, 2009 dr vijay does not know this, but <b>mukul kesavan is a crypto-mohammedan. he works for the jamia millia islamia and may well be zealous mohammedan convert, or else he is a communist from malabar.</b> in his book "looking through glass" (or something along those lines), he has some scenes from the <b>moplah pogrom in 1921</b>, where they went on a murderous dance of death, raping, converting, and murdering 10,000 totally innocent hindus in malabar. they were protesting the fact that kemal pasha in distant turkey had abolished the calphate -- naturally the best thing to do was to kill and rape some hindus. <b>in one scene, kesavan describes how a fleeing hindu woman is found in hiding by a mohammedan man, and how she totally enoys being raped by the virile mohammedan! she then becomes a willing and enthusiastic convert.</b> (This Muqool Qasab is obviously a would-be rapist. He is vicariously living through the fiction: scripting his islamic character into the scene he wants to star in. Indian women should be warned to stay away from Muqool. He's got islamic rabies. Advanced stages.) this is truly pornographic. (More generally, christoislam is sick. While islamaniacs write skewed islamic books set against factual genocides and then use it to justify rape, christomaniacs kidnap men and women and force them to star in porn movies - see news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4190570.stm 'Christoterrorist NLFT making porn films with kidnapped tribals'.) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Vijay Editor, Outlookindia.com Dear Editor, Re: 'Naveen Patnaik's New Secularism' a blog on Mukul Kesavan's 'Naveen Patnaik's New Secularism' (The Telegraph, April 30, 2009). An ingenious but unconvincing defence of Naveen Patnaik's volte face ! The author Mr.Mukul Kesavan suffers from two of the characteristics of liberal Indian journalists: 1. A selective treatment of facts. For example, in speaking about the events of Kandamahal in 2008, he mentions the situation of the Christian population there, but omits certain important facts. They are : the horrific murder of an 80 year old Swami, a Hindu nun, their associates ( and even a child, according to some reports) and that too at an Ashram, hitherto considered sacred ground. This heinous act was committed by masked gunmen, subsequently identified as Christian Maoists(whatever that oxymoron might stand for!). (Dr Vijay is wrong. "Christian maoists" is not an oxymoron, it is a duplication. It literally means "christian christians".) The Hindu response can be understood in this context. As well, that for years, the Christian tribal converts, had been oppressing the Hindu tribals, and recently even stealing their land by clever subterfuges instigated by the missionaries. This included their passing themselves off as Scheduled Tribes, entitled to reservations and affirmative action by the Government of India, a status they lost upon conversion. The negative activities of the Christian missionaries, most sponsored by foreign outfits, is well known. This includes not only the above but the systematic denigration of the indigenous religion of India, Hinduism. Clearly, a continuation of their activities during colonial rule, when missionaries stood at street corners and abused the indigenous religion. 2. Secondly, Mr. Kesavan, like many of his liberal peers has a barely concealed contempt for the indigenous religion and culture of the Indian subcontinent. This elitism is revealed by his systematic denial of the fact that the majority population of India, comprised of millions upon millions of everyday Indians, are Hindus. <b>All this is concealed by a supposed attack (however muted, as it is in his case) on Hindutva. The real target is Hinduism.</b> Sincerely, Dr. Vijay Posted by nizhal yoddha at 5/03/2009 09:05:00 PM 0 comments <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Radical Islam and internal security - acharya - 05-21-2009 <b>The corridor of peace</b> Farzand Ahmed January 17, 2008 In December last year, All India Khwaja Gharib Nawaz Council, a Sufi organisation, led a peace march to Parliament, holding placards that read: âIslam says killing of one innocent is killing of humanity. Sufi Corridor can play an important role in establishing peace and unity.â Despite the overly idealistic veneer, it marks an important milestone in the fight against Islamic terrorism. The Sufis in India are low profile but number close to 10 crore and their religious centres are spread across the country (see map). The movement to create a Sufi Corridor of peace is therefore a nationwide movement. Several Sufi scholars and saints belonging to various dargahs and khanqahs (Islamic seminaries) had gathered in Delhi recently to formally identify the corridor which stretches from Kashmir to Kerala, Gujarat to West Bengal. The objective of the movement is to connect all Sufi centres with a view to uniting people against terrorism and try and prevent attacks at places sacred to both Hindus and Muslims. Sufism is based on the principle that âall people are the children of God on earthâ. Sufis in Delhi Sufis in Delhi Their philosophy has been to return hatred with love, violence with affection. So far it has largely been Sufi music which has found national resonance. Now, its religious leaders are hoping to do the same with their anti-terror campaign. This is, in fact, the first-ever attempt to create a kind of civic organisation outside the boundaries of the political establishment to fight terrorism. The idea behind the initiative, according to internationally revered Sufi Syed Muhammad Jilani Ashraf Kichhauchhvi, a direct descendent of Prophet Mohammad, who heads the Sufi Foundation, Spiritual Foundation and Sufi University, and who was also part of the Delhi conference, is to connect all the famous dargahs and khanqahs, numbering close to 400, and reinforce the message of Sufism (Muslim mysticism) which, in strictly religious terms means cleansing of mind and heart to help acquire the knowledge of God, but in the current context is really to do with the brotherhood of man and coming together to fight terrorism. Following the bomb explosions at the dargah of Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti at Ajmer Sharif on October 11, 2007, Maulana Jilani Ashraf, popularly known as Jilani Baba, made spiritual tours to different parts of the country to awaken and unite the Sufis. The Ajmer blast was preceded by the bomb blast at Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad on May 11, which killed 11 people. In fact, 10 days before the Delhi Sufi conference, Uttar Pradesh was rocked by serial bomb blasts in Lucknow, Faizabad and Varanasi civil courts. These blasts, once again, coincided with the Friday prayers and claimed 14 lives. Shaken by these incidents, Sufis decided to come out of their âhujrasâ (meditation chambers or prayer cells) to play the role they have historically played in spreading the message of Islam and creating a composite culture in India. The Sufis, led by Jilani Baba, set up the Khwaja Gharib Nawaz Council (now renamed as the Sufi Federation of India) to bring all Sufis on a single platform and draw a road-map to unite Hindus and Muslims against the dangers of terrorism. Prominent Sufi leaders from all across the country are part of the initiative. The Sufis and their followers plan to set out on a spiritual voyage asking the people to be aware of their religious and civic duty in strengthening society to identify and condemn terrorist activities which are the handiwork of only a handful of misguided and mischievous elements and are totally against the spirit of Islam. By October this year a chain of Sufi shrines would be created which would in turn create a ring of followers who would carry the message of peace and unity. These local-level rings would connect with each other to form a larger, nationwide chain the sole aim of which would be to promote peace and brotherhood among faiths. The progress of the corridor would be reviewed and the future course of action would be worked out at a conference in Bangalore in October this year. Sufis say this approach would work at two levelsâit would help the government and its agencies counter terrorism and it would create awareness among the people about the larger threat posed by terrorist groups. This concept of Sufi Corridor is also seen as the next step to the setting up of the Sufi University that was aimed at reviving the concept of mysticism. Though most of the orthodox schools of Islamic thought have rejected Sufism as un-Islamic, their message and following has grown, cutting across regions and faiths. Apart from their numbersâthe Sufi Foundation of India estimates there are over 10 crore Sufi followers in the countryâthe greatest contribution of Muslim Sufi saints is the creation of a composite culture in India dating back to the 13th century with the arrival of Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti at Ajmer Sharif. This helped blunt the edge of Hindu-Muslim prejudices by forging solidarity and brotherhood among these two communities. The movement has been supported by key Hindu religious leaders. âSants follow the path of peace, love and nonviolence. So the campaign launched by Sufis against terrorism must be supported by all. It might help trace the roots of terrorism and destroy it forever. All the saints and sadhus of Ayodhya support this initiative,â says Acharya Satyendra Das, chief priest of Ram Janmabhoomi, Ayodhya. Sufi leader Maulana Jilani Ashraf Sufi leader Maulana Jilani Ashraf However, Maulana Khalid Rasheed, president, Ulema Council of India and member, All India Muslim Personal Law Board, remains sceptical. âSome Muslim leaders and scholars have started a wrong trend to claim that they are against terrorism. This creates suspicion that the community is feeling guilty.Terrorism has nothing to do with any religion. We saw âterrorismâ when the Babri Masjid was destroyed. There is Maoist terrorism across the country. There is Israeli terrorism in Palestine. Iraq also faces terrorism. The movement will succeed only when Hindus and Muslims campaign together,â says Rasheed. This is what actually Sufis are striving to achieveâto bring together the followers of all religions in their collective fight against terrorism. And not everyone subscribes to Rasheedâs reservations. âWe know there is no bigger traitor than the one who tries to question the faith of the Islamic community. Such protests by the community can be a fitting reply to the miscreants, something that even the Government cannot give,â says Union Minister of State for Home Sriprakash Jaiswal. Despite the sceptics, any initiative against terrorism is to be welcomed, especially when it is undertaken by Muslims and, in particular Sufis, who ultimately have the right credentials to promote peace. Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 05-22-2009 From article pasted above: <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->âIslam says killing of one innocent is killing of humanity. Sufi Corridor can play an important role in establishing peace and unity.â<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That's an inversion of the Judaic line: "Whoever saves one person saves the whole world." (Something like that.) Islam is a inept copycat. As inept as christianism. Nothing original. Nothing useful that wasn't already said elsewhere and said better. And other sources said all the useful things <i>without</i> including christoislamic commands like "decapitate the kaffirs", "destroy their temples", "stone them", and other indicators of non-existent jeebusjehovallah's terrorism called 'love'. http://haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx?PAGEID=8610&SKIN=B <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Woman Islamic Terrorists in India!</b> 01/05/2009 10:27:00 Vedaprakash<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Radical Islam and internal security - G.Subramaniam - 05-24-2009 Rediff ROL vs ROP Islamic fundamentalists have issued threats to police officers, who were suspended following the firing at Thiruvananthapuram on May 17, which resulted in six deaths. The deaths have created a furor in Kerala, and the state government has ordered the suspension of six police officials, in the wake of wide-spread public resentment against the erring policemen. The Popular Front, which is the new incarnation of the National Development Front, is believed to responsible for issuing threats to the police officers. The Home Ministry has decided to provide protection to the police officials. Popular Front state president Nasaruddin Elamaram, while addressing a meeting in Kannur, had called for strict action against the erring police officers. Sources in the Home Ministry indicated that supporters of Elamaram might have issued the threats. Top officials of the Kerala police defended the suspended policemen, claiming they had taken action against a group of miscreants, who were about to attack a church near Cheriathura beach, to prevent a major communal riot in the state . However, the state government has suspended the police officials and decided to provide government jobs to family members of the victims. While the Popular Front had demanded a compensation amount of Rs 25 lakh for the families of the victims, the government has agreed to provide Rs 10 lakh. The government's attempts at damage control are being perceived by some as the Left Democratic Front's attempts to project itself as a saviour of the minority community. Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 05-26-2009 The first two belong in both threads (christianism=islamism) 1. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/mor...eriyathura.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Friday, May 22, 2009 <b>more on luuuv and peas in cheriyathura, trivandrum</b> ('Peas' seems to be Nizhal Yoddha's new phrase for 'peace' aka islamists.) may 22nd, 2009 <b>it turns out that 400 mohammedans armed with serious bombs (not even really crude ones, either: with gelatine and detonators) were marching towards the christist enclave, where 600 christists had been mobilized.</b> it looked like luuuuv was going to take a big hit from peas. <b>therefore the police fired and killed 6 peas-ful mohammedans.</b> and the christists are terrified peas will break out again soon. incidentally, the govt gave rs. 10 lakhs to the kin of each peas-ful guy killed. moral: to get money from the government, become a mohammedan carrying gelatine bombs and marching to attack christists. or hindus. or anybody. Posted by nizhal yoddha at 5/22/2009 08:45:00 PM 1 comments <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> 2. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/che...ts-or-love.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Cheriyathura (love-peace riots), or Love and Peace in India</b> may 24th, 2009 all that remains is for liberty to join in the fun. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: K http://voiceofdharma.org/books/hsus/ch6.htm "<b>The three ideologies (Love Peace and Liberty)</b> have not yet started exchanging blows simply because their areas of operation have not yet coincided. They have chosen to feed upon different limbs of the large-sized Hindu society. Christianism is busy amongst Hindu "tribals" whom Hindu society had always left undisturbed. Islamism is on the prowl amongst the Harijans whom a power-hungry leadership is fast preparing for political blackmail. Communism is spreading its tentacles amongst the upper and middle classes whom it parades as its "proletarian base."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> 3. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/pea...s-sponsors.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>peas in khatmandu: prachanda's sponsors get a shock</b> may 23rd, 2009 i suspect it was the 'religion of peace' telling the 'religion of love' to cool their conversion fervor. *they* want to convert the manishes of nepal, not let ratzy-type godmen do it. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/05/23/<b>nepal.church.blast</b>/index.html?iref=werecommend Posted by nizhal yoddha at 5/23/2009 09:46:00 AM 0 comments<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> 4. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/zak...-al-taqiya.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>zakaria indulges in al-taqiya</b> may 23rd, 2009 you have to understand, you see, that when zakaria says "great power" he means "mohammedan territory". once you do a global edit this way, the whole interview actually makes some sense. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/...indiaelections/ Posted by nizhal yoddha at 5/23/2009 09:46:00 AM 0 comments <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 05-27-2009 Islam: http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/14-...y-murdered.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Tuesday, May 26, 2009 <b>14 year Hindu boy brutally murdered, gets his face smashed by mohammedans for 'befriending' their 'sister'</b> The 'secular' spindian express glossed over the mohammedan angle http://www.indianexpress.com/news/missing-...smashed/466487/ The DNA reported the facts but ignored the 'communal angle'. If a hindu had done this, this would have been a "brutal honour killing" http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1259311   "<b>Fahar Sheikh, 21, Farhan Sheikh, 20, and Salim Malabarwala</b>, 20, were arrested for Amandeep's abduction and murder. The trio were final-year Commerce students, while Amandeep was studying in std X in Holy Cross High School, Kurla," said sub inspector RR Sawant of Vinobha Bhave Nagar police station. The blood-stained stone used for the crime has also been recovered. Emphasis added. The moh'dans are laying down the law: Latikas (of slum-kutta fame) wanted to continue our 'islamisation by impregnation', hindus interested in mohammedan women have to cease and desist or will cease to exist. The cruelty of these monsters boggles the mind. Of course, no 24-7 news coverage here. Posted by AGworld at 5/26/2009 09:39:00 PM 1 comments Labels: mohammedan, mumbai, secular progressive<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Muslim men are repugnant - thanks to their islam. No wonder they're all terrorists. (No, Abdul Kalam is <i>not</i> a muslim, whatever he may imagine. <- See all the muslims who correctly declare him to be a non-muslim for his heresy. *They* actually know islam. Some muslims even describe/accuse Kalam of being a Hindu.) Never could comprehend why any kaffiri woman would want to be with/marry a christoislamist. Seems one has to be a <i>special</i> kind of stupid for that. Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 05-29-2009 <b>Huge cache of ammunition recovered in Maharashtra </b> On May 28, the Mumbai Police recovered 917 live cartridges and arrested one person in this connection, reports The Hindu. The Joint Commissioner of Police, Rakesh Maria, said that Mumbai-based <b>Mansood Khan was arrested </b>along with 500 live cartridges and another 417 were found atop a public toilet. All the live rounds were reportedly of firearms .30, .32, 9 mm and .375 and 12 bore. They are good quality foreign-made cartridges, Maria added. Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 05-31-2009 1. <!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+May 29 2009, 08:31 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ May 29 2009, 08:31 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Huge cache of ammunition recovered in Maharashtra </b> On May 28, the Mumbai Police recovered 917 live cartridges and arrested one person in this connection, reports The Hindu. The Joint Commissioner of Police, Rakesh Maria, said that Mumbai-based <b>Mansood Khan was arrested </b>along with 500 live cartridges and another 417 were found atop a public toilet. All the live rounds were reportedly of firearms .30, .32, 9 mm and .375 and 12 bore. They are good quality foreign-made cartridges, Maria added. [right][snapback]97876[/snapback][/right] <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->So, has the Christian Inquisition, I mean the Maharashtrian ATS, moved on to torture yet? Or is that merely reserved for innocent Hindus framed by christoism? (I note these Hindus have been 'disappeared' by the christo inquisition now, going by all the silence in the news on them.) 2. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/05/can...shka-facts.html Comment: <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> Sudhir said...   http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/92596/watch-m...ar-streets.html   Where are the pik pangty guys and gals????   Seems like ROP is beyond any criticism.   5/14/2009 8:24 AM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The "Pink panties guys and gals" are part of the Christo Inquisition of Hindus onlee. Same as the All-Terrorists squad in Maharashtra. This woman can expect nothing of them. Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 05-31-2009 Pan-islamism. http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8734&SKIN=W <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Waging Jihad Against India Is "Absolutely Lawful"</b> 30/05/2009 02:23:56 http://www.memritv.org/report/en/3299.htm#_edn1 <i>Several prominent Arab Islamic scholars and Mecca imams, have criticized Taliban leader Maulana Sufi Muhammad for saying that the Kashmiri movement is not jihad because it does not seek to enforce Islamic shari'a.[1] Among the critics are leading Sunni cleric Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, head of the International Union of Muslim Scholars[2] and Sheikh Abd Al-Rahman Al-Sudayyis, imam of Al-Haram Mosque in Mecca.[3]</i> The following is a summary of statements by these and other prominent figures: Al-Qaradhawi: ''Kashmir Is Part of the Muslim Ummah, And The Whole Muslim Community Is Like One Body" Criticizing Sufi Muhammad's statement, Dr. Yousef Al-Qaradhawi (above left) said that the Kashmiris are fighting jihad against the Indian Army. He added: ''Kashmir is part of the Muslim ummah, and the whole Muslim community is like one body, and it is its duty to help the Kashmiris to obtain freedom from the Indian aggression.'' Al-Sudayyis: Muslims Should Do Their Part ''To Bring the Kashmiris Out of the Indian Despotism and Autocracy" Sheikh Abd Al-Sudayyis (above center) said that Muslims must do their part ''to bring the Kashmiris out of the Indian despotism and autocracy, and [Muslims] should join hands with Kashmiris in this crucial situation.'' He added, ''The Indian Army launched genocide by killing innocent children and by raping women; mosques were being demolished and they wanted to impose the secular and blasphemous system in Kashmir,'' he added. (Killing innocent children and raping women? Wha? These islamaniacs probably watched that communist Mani Ratnam's movie on Kashmir. Why don't the islamadmen go knocking on his door first, it was *his* fantasy...) Palestinian-Kuwaiti Sheikh Ahmad Al-Qattan: Waging Jihad Against India Is "Absolutely Lawful" Palestinian-Kuwaiti religious scholar Sheikh Ahmad Qattan said that waging jihad against India is absolutely lawful under Islamic shari'a, and also accused the Indian army of launching genocide by killing children and women in Kashmir,[4] quoting Koranic verses that instruct Muslim believers to wage Jihad. Sheikh Abdullah Al-Sabil: Kashmiris Are Waging Jihad in Kashmir and Fighting the Enemies of Islam Sheikh Muhammad bin Abdallah Al-sabil, an imam at the Kaaba, declared in his Friday sermon that India had snatched religious freedom from the Muslims and Kashmiris, and that Kashmiris are waging jihad in Kashmir and fighting against the enemies of Islam. Endnotes: [1]www.sananews.com.pk, Pakistan, May 5 and May 8, 2009; photo dailymuslims.com. [2] For more on Sheikh Al-Qaradhawi, see MEMRI TV page for him at http://www.memritv.org/subject/en/589.htm [3] For more on Sheikh Al-Sudayyis, see MEMRI Special Dispatch No. No. 939, "Friday Sermon By Leading Saudi Imam Al-Sudayyis in Mecca: 'Oh Allah, Liberate Our Al-Aqsa Mosque⦠Punish the Occupying Zionists and Their Supporters Among The Corrupt Infidels⦠Oh Allah, Scatter and Disperse Them,'" July 21, 2005, http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=arc...a=sd&ID=SP93905 [4] For more on Sheikh Ahmad Qattan, see MEMRI TV page for him at http://www.memritv.org/subject/en/784.htm.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Sounds like the global Jihad is coming Indian Army's way.... Indian Army: "Don't kill us, we're secular." Ummah: "What part of JIHAD!!! don't you get? Like we <i>care</i>. Die you kaffirs!" And then it's cue to the national anthem. "Allons enfants de la Patrie, le jour de gloire est arrive! Contre nous la tyrannie, l'etanard sanglie est leve(e?) ..." Mais qu'est-ce qui se passe? Did I start the wrong song again. What, this <i>isn't</i> the French Nationalists forum? I'm so dreadfully sorry. Let me try this again. "Time to sing the national anthem:" (Yeah, I got that bit right the first time) "There is only one mohamed and allah is its puppet." Or something like that. Maybe it needs a bit more practice, but when it's time, the Army can all parrot it together or all be as silent as a mass-grave together. Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 06-01-2009 Note that Hooti is a Keralite living in Oman, but he's a trained member of the Jihadists of Kashmir LeT. Pan-Indian jihad. http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8737&SKIN=B <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Blasts across the Nation - Jihadi Keralite from Oman arrested</b> 31/05/2009 00:22:40 BANGALORE: Ali Abdul Aziz <b>Hooti</b>, alias Ali, an accused in the Bangalore serial blasts, is said to have been detained by the Oman police. Aliâs arrest could offer more clues about his friend Sarfaraz Nawaz, the mastermind of the Bangalore blasts, and <b>Fahim Ansari whom Ali had sent to Pakistan for training; Ansari also did reccee work for Mumbaiâs 7/11 attacks.</b> Sources in the Intelligence Bureau said that <b>Hooti, originally from Kerala</b> but now an Omani national, had provided monetary support to Sarfaraz Nawaz to carry out the blasts in Bangalore. After receiving the money, Sarfaraz came to Bangalore from Muscat, did a reccee in Bangalore with the main accused Naseer, alias Umar Haji, and handed over the money for explosives through Shanu Sattar. Sarfaraz Nawaz, who was taken into custody by the Bangalore police with the help of R&AW, had close relations with Hooti; the IB now wants to question Hooti for further clues. Read full report at www.newindpress.com - Bangalore blasts accused held in Oman<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Expressbuzz link (New Indian Express) <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Bangalore blasts accused in Oman</b> Naveen Ammembala First Published : 31 May 2009 03:57:00 AM IST Last Updated : 31 May 2009 12:50:08 PM IST BANGALORE: Ali Abdul Aziz Hooti, alias Ali, an accused in the Bangalore serial blasts, is said to have been detained by the Oman police. Aliâs arrest could offer more clues about his friend Sarfaraz Nawaz, the mastermind of the Bangalore blasts, and Fahim Ansari whom Ali had sent to Pakistan for training; Ansari also did reccee work for Mumbaiâs 7/11 attacks. Sources in the Intelligence Bureau said that Hooti, originally from Kerala but now an Omani national, had provided monetary support to Sarfaraz Nawaz to carry out the blasts in Bangalore. After receiving the money, Sarfaraz came to Bangalore from Muscat, did a reccee in Bangalore with the main accused Naseer, alias Umar Haji, and handed over the money for explosives through Shanu Sattar. Sarfaraz Nawaz, who was taken into custody by the Bangalore police with the help of R&AW, had close relations with Hooti; the IB now wants to question Hooti for further clues. Sources said that <b>Hooti, a trained LeT member looking after Oman region, earlier had links with Fahim Ansari. Ansari conducted the reccee in Mumbaiâs Taj Hotel and CST before he was arrested in UP while planning to attack the CRPF camp in Rampur.</b> Sarfaraz had revealed that Jasimi alias Tahsin (35), a Pakistani and a friend of Hootiâs, had met him during November 2008, in Oman. Tahsin, a former LeT man, met Sarfaraz in Muscat and informed him about Jasimâs expulsion from the LeT. Angered over the way trainees were being treated, Jasim and Hooti had discouraged Fahim from joining the training. However, Fahim went ahead and felt that both were wrong about the training. Sources said that Jasim was thrown out of LeT after Fahim reported the matter to the commanders.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 06-01-2009 Husky, We should start keeping track of number of people connected to one terrorism act are arrested and named by Indian Government. All are called mastermind and leader of same crime. It will gives us some information, how many are plant story by Indian Government/media. This we can found out , how many actually be charged and see court? Then we have to figure out why Indian Government is planting these story, then when they will pick up some Hindu to balance out or play secular. Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 06-01-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pink panties guys and gals"<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Head of "Pink panties guys and gals" mother lost election. (Renuka Choudwry) That I call pink revenge. Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 06-02-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jun 1 2009, 08:08 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jun 1 2009, 08:08 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Husky, We should start keeping track of number of people connected to one terrorism act are arrested and named by Indian Government. All are called mastermind and leader of same crime. It will gives us some information, how many are plant story by Indian Government/media. This we can found out , how many actually be charged and see court? Then we have to figure out why Indian Government is planting these story, then when they will pick up some Hindu to balance out or play secular. [right][snapback]98168[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I never even thought of this. But you're right, we hardly hear about the subsequent court cases and sentences (exceptions I can think of now are qasab and the practically-pardoned mohammed afzal). Demoralising. Are you suggesting there be a separate thread listing islamic terrorist attacks along with the few perpetrators eventually 'picked up' for each crime (or merely name-dropped in the media), and how nothing is mentioned of them being charged or convicted ever again? I would actually be interested in seeing such data myself. So, yeah, sure. If you would set up a thread with the format you want, I'll push that post on Hooti into it and people might perhaps choose to keep an eye out for more such 'we've caught them' stories that then never have a follow up. And are all those arrested the actual terrorists or is the 'Indian' govt framing innocent people under false (islamic) names, as frequently happens in TSP where Hindus are shipped off to America's 'justice' system as "Taliban"? Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 06-02-2009 I am starting excel sheet on my PC, I will start filling Incidence date and captured people, reporting media name, dates and if any case on so called catch and ranking provided my government. I think Indian Government is pulling big stunt, to keep public thinking they are doing something. Sometimes, Indian Government links one person to all crime and none of these guys had any court visit. It is time consuming, but I will start . New thread we will start later after some quality data with some verification. Government press releases are complete bull, mainly cover-up of nonsense. Congress is able to consolidate Muslim votes, because Muslims are seeing after so many terrorist attacks in India by Indian Muslims, Muslims are protected and Indians Government had turn face to other direction. All catch are either named as Bangladeshi or Paki or Indian Muslim abroad. Only one Paki is in custody after 26/11. Even government tried to neutralize him. So many terrorist attacks, they just have 3-4 names. Sudden creation of Indian Muhajdeen Muslims feel secured as Congress in Power. So attack on innocent Indians will continue. Hindu festival season will start from August, so watch for new wave. Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 06-12-2009 - http://hindusamhati.blogspot.com/2008/07/a...du-monk-of.html <b>Has more pictures</b> (like of the Swami recovering in hospital) - Reposting here (with links), since this went by unnoticed by me as it was posted in a sticky. Want to make sure no one else misses this either. http://www.indiaworldreport.com/archive/up..._by_muslim.html http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?PageID=8793&SKIN=C <!--QuoteBegin-AryanK+Jun 11 2009, 05:36 AM-->QUOTE(AryanK @ Jun 11 2009, 05:36 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Hindus in West Bengal under Attacks by Muslim</b> <img src='http://www.indiaworldreport.com/images/hindus_attacks01.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> Swami Punyalokananda tied to a tree and severely beaten. <img src='http://www.indiaworldreport.com/images/hindus_attacks02.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> Swami Punyalokananda tied to a tree and severely beaten. <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hindus in West Bengal are now under attack from Muslim fundamentalists, who are mostly Bangladeshi infiltrators, with an active support from the ruling CPM. The communists in the state are desperate to woo Muslims after their humiliating defeat in the recent panchayat and civic body elections. The communists believe that due to the state governmentâs agricultural land grab policy for industry has alienated rural Muslims from the party and responsible for poll debacles. The party and its government are now liberally distributing favours to Muslims in the state such as setting up of Muslim religious university, named Alia University, in Kolkataâs Muslim populated area Park Circus. The chief minister, Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee, has offered his governmentâs financial assistance only to Muslim students seeking higher education. Mamata Banerjeeâs Trinamul Congress is not lagging behind in Muslim appeasements. She has announced that gram panchayats and panchyat samities won by her party in South 24 Parganas district will be run by local Muslims only. Emboldened by the appeasement policy of the ruling party as well as the main Opposition party in the state, a section of Muslim fundamentalist outfits are gearing up an unprecedented attacks on Hindus in South Bengal districts. The first major attack was reported in Gangasagar, the holy confluence of the river Ganga and Bay of Bengal, <span style='color:blue'>on June 12 this year (2008). About 200 Hindu pilgrims were assembled there for a holy dip at the confluence and listen to discourses on Hindu religious texts by leaders of Hindu Samhati Mancha. The peaceful Hindu assembly was attacked by a frenzied 3000-strong Muslim mob led by a local CPM leader Sheikh Ismail. Like infamous Godhra train burning incident in Gujarat, the heavily armed Muslim goons set fire to bamboo pavilion erected for the pilgrims assembled in the evening to listen to religious discourses. The goons also set fire to Viswa Hindu Parishadâs guest house where some pilgrims had taken shelter. The VHP guest house was badly damaged due to fire and ransacking. Strangely, the police remained onlookers during the murderous attack on Hindu pilgrims and later arrested only the leaders of Hindu Samhati Mancha and a few injured pilgrims. It is really a shame for Bengalâs media that suppressed the incident to appease the ruling CPM and its Muslim stooges.</span> It was only the Bengali weekly Swastika that came out with detail reorts and pictures. The West Bengal unit of the VHP had also organized demonstration in protest. It may not be known to many outside West Bengal that the sacred Gangasagar Island is now dominated by Muslim majority population migrated from Bangladesh illegally thanks to the CPMâs policy of Muslim appeasement only to get their votes. The second major attack on Hindus was reported on July 8 when Swami Punyalokanandaji, a monk of Ramakrishna Order and Adhyaksha of the Ramakrishna Ashram at Gorehat under Joynagar police station in South 24 Parganas was stripped and beaten up by CPM goons. Revered Swamiji is a Hindu social reformer who was initiated in sannyas by Swami Gambhiranandaji Maharaj, the 11th President of Ramakrishna Math and Mission, Belur, Howrah. Swami Punnyalokanandaji is devoted for the upliftment of the poor and underprivileged people at Gorehat since he has taken over as the head of the ashram. Swamiji was trying hard to start a free coaching centre for the primary school boys and homeopathic dispensary in the ashram campus. But Mohammed Abdur Ali, a local CPM leader and his associates have planned to set up a country liquor shop in the ashram campus capturing the ashram room for coaching students and the dispensary just by flexing their muscle power. The local Muslim goons, led by the CPM leader Abdur Ali, attacked Swamiji with iron rods and lathis and tied him with a tree before stripping him off his saffron robes and beat him mercilessly till he became senseless. This ghastly scene was witnessed by hundreds of local people as the attack was made by the Muslim goons in the morning. But none came forward to save Swamiji fearing reprisal from the local Muslim goons sheltered by the CPM bosses. The police came to the spot only after the Muslim fanatics had satisfied themselves by blood-shed of a peaceful Hindu monk. Strangely, again, the police did not arrest a single culprit so far except registering a general diary (No. 168/08) about the attack on Swamiji at the Joynagar police station. Swamiji had many injuries in his body including scull. Some devotees of Swamiji took him to Kolkataâs SSKM government hospital for C.T Scan of brain and necessary treatment. Swamiji is now out of danger. Swamiji had earlier met the district magistrate and the district superintendent of police apprehending murderous attacks on him and on the ashram and requested them in writing for protection. But they did not take steps to protect the Hindu monk mainly due to fearing backlash of the Muslim fundamentalist groups and red eyes of the ruling communists. The two successive barbaric incidents and complete police inaction led to a panic among peace-loving Hindus all over West Bengal. The incidents have clearly showed that the CPM has adopted a tactic of torture against Hindus only to win the hearts of the Muslims to regain their support in the Lok Sabha elections. back<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]98599[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->What's the Indian Army doing? Oh forget them. What are Hindus doing? Now, how reminiscent is the above of the christo mob that attacked Swami in 2007 (after which christos butchered him in 2008 - no surprise, it's what cretins do.) http://blogs.ivarta.com/Christian-Attack-H...ami/blog-58.htm <b>24 December 2007: Ivarta, "Christian mob attack on Lakshmananda Saraswati in India", by V Sundaram</b> This is a christoislamic war. But Hindus refuse to fight. Which makes this a genocide of Hindus. (Perhaps they imagine Gandhi's Way will save them...?) No one is going to protect Hindus. Hindus should protect themselves, or else they can start a fire and jump in collectively. Saves the christoislamaniacs the trouble and mess of butchering Hindus in small numbers of 100 or so at a time. After all, it is unsecular to make the poor peaceful loving minority exert itself in mass-murdering Hindus. So why don't secular Indians ('Hindus') set the example? <b>Edited:</b> year of the islamoterrorist act in Gangasagar is 2008. Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 06-16-2009 Islamaniacs strike again. Doing what they do best: gangraping Hindu kids. They're 'inspired' (possessed) by moronhead - I mean mohammed - after all. Christomedia like TOI naturally don't want to leak the victim's identity: after all, christomedia is always famous for 'avoiding the communal angle' - but <i>only</i> when the victims are Hindus, of course. Hence one can guess with some statistical accuracy what the religious affiliation of the victim is. Oh, and this is Gujarat. Not West Bengal. Not Kerala. In case people got confused. 1. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/06/ano...xual-jihad.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Another instance of sexual jihad</b> jun 15th, 2009 why doesn't the media project it correctly as mohammedans attacking a hindu girl and gang-raping her? imagine the fuss if it were the reverse! in fact, no need to imagine. some mohammedan women were raped and killed in j&k recently. the reverberations were so much that manmohan has decided (with yankee pressure) to move indian troops out of the cities and the border (soooooo much the better for the ISI to push in people!). the people took matters into their own hands and thrashed the mohammedan thugs outside the court, if i am not mistaken. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ghatotkacha Saturday, Jun 13, 2009 AHMEDABAD: Taking swift action, the Surat police succeeded in nabbing all the three accused in a kidnapping and gang rape case within hours of the crime. According to the Surat Police Commissioner, Deepak Swaroop, two of the accused turned out to be sons of police personnel, the father of one being posted in Surat itself and the other being recently transferred to Banaskantha district in north Gujarat. <b>The police said the victim of the gang rape, a 17-year old girl from a well-do-do family in the city,</b> was going to tuition classes early in the morning on Friday accompanied by a boyfriend when the accused in a car approached them. The accused introduced themselves as policemen and told the duo that they would have to be taken to the police station for indecency in the public as they had been found in a "compromising position" under a fly-over. The two were forced into the car and were taken to the outskirts of the city where the boy was tied to a tree and the girl gang-raped in the car and later abandoned on the roadside. <b>No prizes for guessing the names of the rape warriors. Saeed Sayed, Tariq Sayed and Abu Bakr. The police claimed that all the three had confessed their crime during the preliminary interrogation.</b> Posted by nizhal yoddha at 6/15/2009 09:59:00 PM 0 comments <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> 2. timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/Surat-Minor-gangraped-filmed-in-car/articleshow/4651149.cms <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Minor gangraped, filmed in car</b> 13 Jun 2009, 0343 hrs IST, TNN SURAT: The diamond city, considered one of the safest for women, woke up to a rude shock on Friday when a teenaged girl belonging to a well-known family was gangraped around daybreak. Two of the alleged rapists are sons of policemen. The 17-year-old class XII student was going to tuition classes along with a friend when three people tricked her into a car near Civil Hospital crossroads at 5.30 am. Worse, the entire crime was captured by the culprits on a cell phone, with the idea of blackmailing the victim. Surat police arrested three persons, all aged between 25 and 30 years, and also recovered the video clip from them. The victim left home at 5 am for classes near Majura Gate and met a friend near Civil Hospital crossroads. While the two were exchanging books on the roadside, where they had parked their two-wheelers, three persons drew close in an Opel Astra car and asked both of them to get in. The driver told them he was a police official and that they would have to accompany them to the police station. Once the scared kids got in, the car drove towards Dumas beach â a lonely stretch at that hour. The three took turns to rape the girl on the back seat while the other two kept the teenaged boy pinned down on the front seat. After an hour-long ordeal, they were dropped at the same crossroads at 6.45 am. The victimâs friend went to school from there while the girl returned home. She first washed her clothes, which may have destroyed some evidence. However, unable to bear the trauma, she broke down before family members. The family immediately approached the police which got her medically examined. Tests proved she was raped. A forensic examination of the car was on. About eight hours later, the accused â Shahid Saiyad, Tariq Qutubuddin Saiyad and Abu Bakr Shaikh â were nabbed from their residences in Habibsha Maholla in Kadarsha Ni Naal. Shahidâs father NG Saiyad is a police inspector in Dholka while Tariqâs father Qutubuddin Saiyad is a head constable in Mahidharpura police station in Surat. While Bakr runs a mobile phone business, the other two are vagabonds. There are fears the incident may take communal overtones.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> 3. www.hindu.com/2009/06/14/stories/2009061455581000.htm <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Gang-rape accused beaten up</b> (Good, but what about the other two islamaniacs=paedophilic rapists) Manas Dasgupta Various organisations have given a call for a Surat bandh â Photo: PTI <img src='http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/14/images/2009061455581001.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> PUBLIC FURY: A gang rape accused being beaten up by an angry group at the civil hospital in Surat on Saturday. AHMEDABAD: Various organisation of students, parents and social activists have jointly given a call for a âSurat bandhâ on Monday to protest the gang-rape of a minor girl by three youths on Friday. <b>The incident involving sons of policemen has caused so much anger that the accused were beaten up by an angry group when they were brought for medical examination at the civil hospital on Saturday.</b> (What do paedophiles need a medical examination for? Unless the medics were going to castrate the islamaniac paedophile rapists??? If so then, oh ok, you've convinced me: I won't stand in the way of pest-control.) A large number of people, including women, gathered in the hospital compound on Saturday morning as soon as the news spread that the accused had been brought there. Despite being heavily guarded by police escorts, the mob managed to grab the accused and beat them up. The police escorting the accused brandished a revolver and resorted to a lathi charge. <b>People shouted slogans and expressed fears that the police would not take the case to its logical end because two of the accused were sons of police personnel.</b> (Or rather, because they were islamaniac sons of islamaniac 'police'.) A large number of people went to the city police commissioner Deepak Swaroop to demand stern action against the rape accused. As they were prevented from entering the office, women protesters sat on the road and blocked traffic. The impromptu âraasta rokoâ agitation was withdrawn after a lot of persuasion by the police. The Congress and the BJP have condemned the incident. The BJPâs newly-elected member in the Lok Sabha from Surat, Darshanaben Jardosh, came out on the streets in support of the protesters. <b>According to the police, the rape of the 17-year old girl was captured on a mobile camera. One of the accused, Abu Bakr, owned a mobile shop where he allegedly sold pornographic clippings.</b> (Let's guess. Must be footage of all the islamic's other paedophilic rape 'conquests'. These people are sick.) Police said a phone call by one of the accused to warn the girl against reporting the crime led to the arrests. A complaint had been lodged by the girlâs family in the morning itself. <b>When Abu Bakr called the girl on her mobile phone in the afternoon, the police found his location with the help of the service provider and apprehended him. Through him, Saeed Sayed and Tariq Sayed, both sons of policemen, were arrested.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> 4. Meanwhile, this is the grand measure to combat the islamania that's been planned: http://www.24dunia.com/english/shownews/35...fore-7-a-m.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> India Surat gang rape fallout: <b>no tution classes before 7 a.m.</b> Surat |Monday, 2009 5:35:05 PM IST The Surat Police Monday asked owners of private coaching institutes and individual tutors in the city not to hold classes before 7 a.m. The move comes following the gang rape of a 17-year-old girl who was on her way to a tution class at 5.30 a.m. last week. The girl was raped by three youths - two of whom were sons of policemen posted at Surat. "The parents of the students are also being instructed through schools not to be careless about the safety of their wards when they are on their way to tution classes or schools," a senior police officer in the crime branch here said. snc/ak/dg ( 123 Words)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That will teach 'em! (?) Taking precautions is all good and well, but *I'd* have advised Hindu girls/boys/women/men should all get a gun. And then make it go Bang on any paedophilic rapist islamaniacs. "Oh look. It's dead. Quel Tragedy. Allahu-Ek-Barbarian!" (Did I get it wrong? Pardon my oordoo-islamo-arabic - I'm not a linguist.) (If no gun available, alternatively, maybe some sharp projectiles would do. For instance, Japanese martial arts fan sites sell things like Ninja Throwing Stars. Hindus in Bharatam should order and practise, practise, practise with their aim. Although Hindus aren't Ninjas, I'm guessing at semi-close range one can't miss.) <b>ADDED:</b> Contrast the Surat Gujarat situation with W Bengal, where an islamaniac mob murdered Hindu men and gangraped Hindu women on 6th of June 2009 - in an area "comprising the villages Dharampur, Madhupur, Nimdaha, Jamalpur, Kalekhatala, Kuksimla, Belerhat, Chhatni, Srirampur, Patuli etc., was once the stronghold of RSS and BJP." http://www.24dunia.com/english/search/Surat-rape.html <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Police detain VHP activists on bandh-eve Surat police detained around 50 office bearers and leading activists of Vishwa Hindu Parishad and Bajrang Dal on the eve of the Surat Bandh call on Monday given by the outfit to protest the gang-rape of... DNA | 9 Hour(s) Ago Mixed response to VHP bandh call in Surat School students stage a demonstration in Surat on Monday seeking action against the three persons accused of raping a minor girl.AHMEDABAD: The âSurat Bandhâ call given by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad in... Hindu | 15 Hour(s) Ago Mixed response to VHP bandh call SURAT: The bandh called by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad to condemn the gang rape of a girl received a mixed response in the sensitive areas of the city on Monday.The 17-year-old girl was raped by three youths... Hindu | 18 Hour(s) Ago Students, parents stage silent protest march in Surat (Lead) Nearly 1,000 school children and their parents undertook a silent march to the Surat police commissioner's office Monday afternoon to protest the gang rape of a girl in the city Friday.The participants,... Webindia123 | 21 Hour(s) Ago Surat gang rape fallout: no tution classes before 7 a.m. Surat Police Monday asked owners of private coaching institutes and individual tutors in the city not to hold classes before 7 a.m. The move comes following the gang rape of a 17-year-old girl who was... Webindia123 | 1 Day(s) Ago VHP firm on bandh call Most of the organisations who had given a call for Surat bandh on Monday to protest the gangrape of a city girl, withdrew their call after police commissioner, Deepak Swaroop, was transferred. But the... Indiainfo | 1 Day(s) Ago Surat rape: VHP men held for 'bandh' (<!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> Held for protesting gang-rape of a kid - must be more christoconditioned 'justice') SURAT: Police have detained someworkers of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) in wake of today's 'bandh' call givenby the organization, protesting the gangrape of a teenager here."Some VHP workers have been... Times Of India | 1 Day(s) Ago Tight security for today's bandh With the communal atmosphere in Surat fully charged following the rape of a teenage schoolgirl by three Muslim youths, the Surat police are not taking any chances and have made tight security arrangements... DNA | 1 Day(s) Ago <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Radical Islam and internal security - G.Subramaniam - 06-17-2009 The police said the victim of the gang rape, a 17-year old girl from a well-do-do family in the city, was going to tuition classes early in the morning on Friday accompanied by a boyfriend when the accused in a car approached them. --- So why is a hindu 17 year old hindu girl having a boy friend? Any bimbo who screws around deserves what is coming to her From the report this girl is from a high class family The high class hindus are half xtian and aping western sexual mores Radical Islam and internal security - Husky - 06-17-2009 <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The high class hindus are half xtian and aping western sexual mores<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Depends on where people live in Bharatam I think. Maybe in Indian tinseltowns? Is Surat one? And even then only in glam professions: "model", "actor",... (Though concerned Hindu parents would do well to cut off all crap TV where thoughtless people vent the air in their heads.) <!--QuoteBegin-G.Subramaniam+Jun 17 2009, 08:52 AM-->QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Jun 17 2009, 08:52 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->So why is a hindu 17 year old hindu girl having a boy friend?[right][snapback]98850[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->G Sub, apparently there's many meanings to 'boyfriend', as I understand in the Indian context. I know one male Indian student in TN who was 21 or 22 years old some years back and who proudly confessed at that time that he has a "girlfriend". Turns out that the most they ever did was hold hands. Heart-attack! - I know. (Unless stealing glances is now a criminal offence as well - but that's something everyone will be pleading guilty to, I suspect.) Oh and he writes her emails containing the occasional 'romantic' silliness (no, I didn't sneak a look at it, he let me read his words and her own). What can I say, kids are funny. But also innocent. Thoughtless they may have been, but you need not presume the victims in the Surat gangrape case were doing anything. *In spite* of such things as: <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The police said the victim of the gang rape, a 17-year old girl from a well-do-do family in the city, was going to tuition classes early in the morning on Friday accompanied by a boyfriend when the accused in a car approached them. <b>The accused introduced themselves as policemen and told the duo that they would have to be taken to the police station for indecency in the public as they had been found in a "compromising position" under a fly-over.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->This could be no more than intimidation. It sounds like the islamaniac poseurs were excusing themselves with how she "deserved it" for being out with a boy, alone, at her age and for being a kaffir. But Hindus are not islamaniacs. Male children are allowed and often even told to accompany female children by parents. And while I'd certainly prefer Hindu kids and their parents and Hindu adults/society in general to exercise caution, <i>Hindu</i> males are incredibly harmless. Women could close their eyes in their company. (For instance, what's the likelihood of muslimah or christian women getting attacked by Hindu men - I mean factually; not based on communistcombat spinblogs or christian fraudster accusations for whom fact=lie? Could it be so very low because the Hindu male is actually usually innocent???) Don't misunderstand. I'm <b>not</b> encouraging anything. I'm just saying <i>if</i> Hindu girls <i>were</i> to find themselves suddenly alone in the company of Hindu boys, >95% chance nothing remotely suspicious (let alone injurious) would happen. I don't know what the next generations will be like, of course. In fact, the victims in this case need not be more than good friends and he may merely have been accompanying her for her own sake. Not that it helped her (or him) in the end. But I see no need for you to jump to drastic conclusions about his or her character and do so moreover based on islamaniac accusations (are they to be believed?). And there's certainly no grounds for you/anyone to turn innocent victims into willing masterminds. |