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Radicalisation Of Indian Muslims - Guest - 10-21-2006

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Husband should leave Imrana, insist Maulvis </b>
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Aloke Sharma | Muzaffarnagar
Imrana's woes, it seems, are far from over. Even after the verdict of a local court proving her father-in-law guilty of rape, Maulvis and clerics of Darul-Uloom continue to insist that Imrana's husband Noor Ilahi should leave her as she is still 'haraam' (illegal) for him.

On how poor Imrana would be able to feed her five children without her husband, the clerics certainly have no answer. Meanwhile in Kolkata, the All-India Minority Forum (AIMF) on Friday said Imrana's father-in-law Ali Mohammed should be given the death sentence following his conviction for raping her.

In Muzaffarnagar, District and Sessions Judge RD Nimesh, who sent Mohammed to a 10-year prison term for the crime, rejected his counsel's plea for leniency by saying if a woman was not safe in her marital home, she could not feel safe anywhere.
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Stoneage Mullahs!!!


Radicalisation Of Indian Muslims - shamu - 10-21-2006

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Oct 21 2006, 12:55 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Oct 21 2006, 12:55 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->On how poor Imrana would be able to feed her five children without her husband, the clerics certainly have no answer.
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Her children will be admitted to nearby yatthim khana and Saudi petro riyal donations will be useful to all local mullahs.



Radicalisation Of Indian Muslims - Guest - 10-21-2006

this is that guy Ali Muhammed, father in law of Imrana being carried away by police in Muzaffarnagar UP.

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Radicalisation Of Indian Muslims - Guest - 10-22-2006

Zakir Naik & his theory




Radicalisation Of Indian Muslims - Guest - 10-24-2006

<b>Moon row plays spoilsport this Eid</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Moon committees, which were unanimous in their decisions on Monday evening to celebrate Eid on October 25, mysteriously changed the stand after midnight and announced date for celebration on Tuesday.

<b>There was tussle between the hackneyed Mullahs and people with scientific tempers on the issue, which raised conflicts within the community</b>.

<b>The central moon committee in Lucknow had issued a statement on Monday evening that the moon was not sighted and that Eid will be celebrated on October 25</b>.

According to sources<b>, the committee backtracked under the pressure of the Deoband and made the fresh announcement in Lucknow at 3 am</b>.

Rashid said he tried to contact the Shia Ulema to apprise them of the changes but they were not available. Significantly the Barielvis seeing through the gameplan of the Deobandis, did not celebrate Eid on Tuesday.

However vice chairman All-India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB) and prominent Shia cleric Dr Kalbe Sadiq said,<b> "It was a result of a clash of egos amongst the Muslim ulema (clerics)".</b>

Dr Sadiq had announced nearly a month ago that astronomically the Eid moon would be sighted on October 24, which did not go too well with the traditional mullahs.

Highly upset Dr Sadiq told HT that clerics were not ready to accept changes. “Ulema ki aankhe der mein khulengi” (the eyes of clerics will open late) Dr Sadiq said and added, "Let the new generation come up, then we will see their value."

While pointing out that it was easy to calculate appearance of moon scientifically, Dr Sadiq said <b>the traditionalists were unwilling to accept modern changes in the festival. Once the community’s new generation was fully acclimatized to computers, traditional moon sighting will become a thing of the past</b>.

<b>He said it was shocking to see a countrywide fragmentation of the community on Eid.</b> During the last few years, Dr Sadiq has been making desperate efforts to scientifically mould the community on the Eid moon issue so <b>the festival date could be announced at least one month in advance. But rigidity on the part of Mullahs had prevented him from doing so</b>.  <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Before leaving for Kenya, Dr Sadiq said that he had informed Khalid Rashid that the Eid moon could be sighted in the southern tip a day earlier. Mysore was the first one to report the sighting on Monday evening.

Dr Sadiq said that an all-India moon sight was only on October 24.<b> He said the situation would improve only when the community would go by “ilm” (education) and in this connection he said astronomical calculations were time-tested</b>.
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Radicalisation Of Indian Muslims - Guest - 10-25-2006

More on Eid moon
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Playful Eid moon makes devout despair </b>
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Omer Farooq | Hyderabad 
It was to be the day of joy and celebrations, but the day ended for the devout in utter confusion and uncertainty. While almost the entire country celebrated Eid-ul Fitr, Muslims in Hyderabad and other parts of Andhra Pradesh were left debating whether it was a correct decision not to celebrate on Tuesday.

The Ruyete Hilal Committee (moon sighting committee) comprising religious heads had announced on Monday night that as the moon was not sighted in the State, Eid would be celebrated on Wednesday. But as news channels reported from Delhi, Bangalore and Chennai that the moon had been sighted and Eid would be celebrated on Tuesday, Muslims here were utterly confused .

They are mightily upset over the whole controversy. <b>"There was a time when even sighting of moon in Pakistan or Bangladesh was enough for us to celebrate Eid. Then came a time when these people insisted on sighting of the moon in the country. Now they want the moon to be sighted in every State,"</b> said Ziaduddin Jameel, a research scholar. "There seems to be no end to it. Why the decision taken in Delhi and other States should not apply to us," he wondered, echoing the common feeling among the people.
People made frantic calls and visits to local newspapers to inquire about the correct situation jamming landline and mobile networks.

Nalgonda district and some other places of the State ignored the ruling of the Hyderabad committee and celebrated on Tuesday while Hyderabadis and other areas will celebrate on Wednesday.

<b>Neighboring States like Karnataka, Tamil Nadu and Maharashtra celebrated Eid on Tuesday, while Kerala celebrated Eid on Monday itself, a day earlier than other States of the country, coinciding with the sighting of moon in the Arabian Gulf countries.</b>
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Radicalisation Of Indian Muslims - Guest - 10-25-2006

<b>Deoband tightens its screening, calls for strict student checks</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->NEW DELHI, OCTOBER 24: Stung by accusations that it was helping spawn fundamentalism, Darul Uloom, Deoband, second only to Cairo’s Al Azhar in the list of Islam’s hallowed seminaries, has tightened admission rules, making more stringent the verification of credentials of potential students.

<b>Foreign students, especially from Bangladesh, and those living in the border areas of Assam and West Bengal, even Kerala, have to now prove their credentials. </b>

<b>The new admission rules state that ‘‘students coming from border areas of West Bengal and Assam shall have to submit nationality proof, which may be an attested copy of TC of any government school, ration card, electoral identity card, electoral identity or Indian passport’’. The ‘‘original’’ will have to furnished on demand. They will also have to carry birth and character certificates</b>.

Foreign students have to obtain ‘‘education visa from the Indian embassy of their country’’ and ‘‘they can’t get admission on the basis of student visas’’.

Students from Bangladesh and Kerala, seen as the new hotbed of Islamic extremism, have to get testimonials from the prescribed ulema.

<b>If from Bangladesh, students will have to approach Maulana Qari Abdul Khaliq, Jamia Hussainiya, Arzabad, Mirpur, Dhaka and Maulana Hafiz Abdul Karim, Chowki Deghi, Sylhet for testimonials.

Kerala students have to get testimonials from Maulana Nooh Sahib, Maulana Hussain Mazahiri and Maulana Mohammed Koya Qasmi.</b>
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Radicalisation Of Indian Muslims - Guest - 10-25-2006

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Prayers disrupted</b>
The Eid moon controversy took a violent turn as some people stormed the Juma Masjid and chased away the namazis who had assembled there to offer prayers. The police had to intervene to control the situation, as both sides came to blows in the mosque premises.

Those who disrupted the prayers said that since Shia cleric Maulana Kalbe Javad had not announced the sighting of the moon, they would not allow prayers in the mosque.
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