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Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 03-03-2010 1993 Surat bombing suspect held in U.K. British police say they have arrested a man wanted in connection with a 1993 bombing in Surat. Scotland Yard said on Wednesday that 49-year-old Mohammed Hanif Umerji Patel, also known as Tiger Hanif, was arrested on behalf of Indian authorities on February 16 in the town of Bolton, northwest England. Police say the attack killed one person and injured a dozen others. He is due in court later this month and faces extradition back to India. Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 03-03-2010 Vaishno Devi shrine on terror radar: MHA New Delhi: The Vaishno Devi shrine in Jammu is one of the targets on the radar of terrorists, the Rajya Sabha was informed on Wednesday. In a written reply to a query in this regard, Minister of State for Home Affairs Mullappally Ramachandran said, "Central Security Agencies have furnished inputs based on intelligence intercepts to that effect. It is not in public interest to disclose these facts." He said central security agencies regularly conduct security audit of all important pilgrimage centres including Tirupathi and Shirdi. "The Ministry has sent advisories to the State Government and Union Territories Administration to prepare appropriate security plans in order to secure and protect these religious places," he said. Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 03-03-2010 Attacks racist, damaged Australia's reputation among Indians: Oz minister NEW DELHI: Australia on Wednesday acknowledged that some of the attacks on Indians were racists in nature, causing considerable damage to its reputation among Indian people and said its premier criminal research agency has been roped in to study the issue and suggest remedial measures. "I acknowledge absolutely that this issue has caused considerable damage to Australia's reputation among Indian people. We have to work very hard to address that. We have to be open, transparent and upfront about that," visiting Australian foreign minister Stephen Smith told reporters here. He said some of the attacks are racists in nature or having racial overtones. "We know that a number of these assaults are racists and have racial overtones. These are absolutely contemptible. We are doing a range of things in future to better portray modern Australia. We want to underline the strength of relationship between India and Australia," Smith said. However, both the countries have agreed that the issue should not be allowed to affect the bilateral ties which has grown immensely in the last two years, he said. The Australian Institute of Criminology (AIC) has been entrusted with the task of studying the issue in depth and ensure whether the government's response to the attacks has been apt, Smith said. Giving details about the study entrusted to the AIC, Smith said the institute, which is a premier agency in criminal justice research, will study the issue from all aspects and examine the response of the Australian government. "Our police authority in Australia does not keep statistics on the basis of nationality. It has been difficult to do an exhaustive statistical analysis of the assaults. The institute will do the study to get a better understanding of the issue," he said. "We want to see whether the Institute of Criminology can give us a deeper and further understanding to make sure that we are responding in a every possible way and that we are doing everything that we can," Smith said. The minister had a series of meeting in recent months with his Indian counterpart S M Krishna over the issue. "I want to give the message that we have zero tolerance to any such attack. We want to bring the culprits to justice," he said. Smith said there have been convictions in many cases while investigation is going on in 70 cases. "We want to ensure that any visitor to Australia experiences what the people of the country experience," he said. Smith said several initiatives have been taken by his government to check such incidents. "We abhor violence. We abhor these attacks". Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 03-03-2010 [size="6"]Say sorry and come back home, Shiv Sena tells Husain[/size] Mumbai: In line with the RSS, the Shiv Sena has said that MF Husain, who is all set to adopt Qatarââ¬â¢s nationality, can return to India, provided he seeks an apology from the Hindus. However, Hindu Janjagruti Samiti (HJS), which was apparently behind Husainââ¬â¢s decision to leave India in 2006, has demanded that he should be arrested and brought back to appear before the court in the cases filed against him. In an editorial in Saamna on Tuesday, Sena chief Bal Thackeray said: ââ¬ÅHusain, seek apology and return to your motherland, if you want.ââ¬Â Thackeray asserted that the Sena never wanted Husain to leave India. ââ¬ÅHe is a great painter. The rich people all over the world buy his paintings for millions of dollars. But when he painted Hindu deities in the nude, there was an outburst of sentiments. Shiv Sainiks too stalled his exhibition in Delhi,ââ¬Â he said. The editorial said that any artist who paints prophet Mohammad or Jesus in a negative manner is punished. Donââ¬â¢t the Hindus have a right to protest if someone hurts their sentiments? ââ¬ÅHusain has hurt Hindu sentiments. It was possible for him to settle the matter by seeking an apology, but he did not do that. I may have sympathy for Husain, but insulting Hindu gods is not an indication of a good artist,ââ¬Â he said. HJS spokesperson Ramesh Shinde said they will not accept any apology from Husain. ââ¬ÅApology will not serve any purpose. He has committed a crime and he has to be punished. The government should arrest him and bring him back to complete the court cases pending against him,ââ¬Â he said. The Samiti launched a campaign against Husain since 1996, when his paintings of nude deities created a controversy. Last week, RSS chief Mohan Bhagwat said they would not oppose Husainââ¬â¢s return if he sought an apology. Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 03-03-2010 [size="6"]PM-Advani verbal duel in Lok Sabha[/size] The Lok Sabha witnessed an interesting passage of arms when Prime Minister Manmohan Singh intervened repeatedly and rejected BJP leader L K Advani's charge that US pressure was behind India's decision to talk to Pakistan. In a sharp verbal duel during the debate on the Motion of Thanks to the President's Address, Singh asserted that there is no change in the US policy on Indo-Pak relations after President Barack Obama came to power. He intervened on more than two occasions during the 75-minute speech by Advani, seeking to set the record straight on the Indo-Pak talks besides other issues like 'one-rank-one-pension' for armed forces. "You are using this debate to sow seeds... What you are attributing to President Obama is certainly not true. In my discussions with President Obama, he has unambiguously said that there is no change in the US policy towards India and Pakistan (relations)," the Prime Minister asserted. He was replying to Advani who suggested that the US was behind the recent Indo-Pak Foreign Secretary-level as Obama had publicly said during his Presidential campaign that he would try to resolve Kashmir issue. This, the BJP leader, contended marked a change in the US position as the previous US Administrations had maintained that they would not mediate in Indo-Pak relations unless both the countries want it. Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 03-03-2010 [size="6"]450 government schemes named after three people: Advani[/size] What is in a name, senior Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader LK Advani asked on Wednesday, taking objection to government schemes and institutions being named after members of the Nehru-Gandhi family. Government schemes and institutions should be kept away from party politics, Advani said while speaking in the Lok Sabha on the motion of thanks to President Pratibha Patil's address to the joint session of Parliament. "(Some) 450 central and state government schemes and institutions involving tens of thousands of crores (of rupees) from the public exchequer have been named after three individuals," Advani said, apparently referring to Jawaharlal Nehru, Indira Gandhi and Rajiv Gandhi - all former prime ministers and icons of the Congress party. The BJP leader referred to a letter written by a journalist to the Election Commission, accusing the Congress party of taking undue electoral advantage from these schemes. The programmes include the Rs.28,000 crore Rajiv Gandhi Grameen Vidyutikaran Yojana (rural electrification programme), Rs 7,400 crore Rajiv Gandhi Drinking Water Mission, the Rajiv Gandhi National Creche Scheme for Children of Working Mothers, the Rajiv Gandhi Udyami Mitra Yojana (to promote small enterprises) and two insurance schemes -- the Rajiv Gandhi Shramik Kalyan Yojana and the Rajiv Gandhi Shilpi Swasthya Bima Yojana. Likewise, there are many programmes named after Indira Gandhi and Nehru like the Indira Avvas Yojana, the Indira Gandhi National Old Age Pension Scheme, the Jahawarlal Nehru Rojgar Yojana and the Jawaharlal Nehru Urban Renewal Mission. Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 03-04-2010 [size="6"]Geert Wildersââ¬â¢ Best Witness[/size] As the trial of Geert Wilders for insulting Islam moves forward in the Netherlands, the one witness that could clear him of these charges will not be called. Muhammad Taqi Usmani is a highly respected and well-known expert on Islamic law who served for 20 years as a Sharia judge on Pakistanââ¬â¢s Supreme Court. He is quite possibly the worldââ¬â¢s most influential Islamist thinker and writer outside of the Middle East. Usmani is a frequent visitor to Britain, where his monograph Islam and Modernism caused a great deal of controversy. Why is Usmani so important for the purposes of Wildersââ¬â¢ trial? Simply put, Usmaniââ¬â¢s interpretation of Islamic doctrine as it concerns non-believers is the same as Wildersââ¬â¢. Indeed, the critical lesson to be gleaned from Usmaniââ¬â¢s work bolsters the very argument that Wilders is on trial for making ââ¬â namely, that the doctrine of jihad, as expounded in Islamic texts, inherently poses a threat to Western civilization. In fact, Osama Bin Laden made the exact same point in a lengthy essay entitled ââ¬ÅModerate Islam is a Prostration to the Westââ¬Â (reproduced in Raymond Ibrahinmââ¬â¢s The al Qaeda Reader). I donââ¬â¢t know if Wilders is familiar with Islam and Modernism. However, the reader of this work will be struck by the similarities between it and Fitna, the short film that has played a significant role in landing Wilders in court. The critical difference between the two is that no one ââ¬â especially no Muslim thinker, writer or the Organization of Islamic Countries ââ¬â has ever accused Usmani of hate speech or of insulting Islam. And yet, consistency of treatment would mandate that if Wilders must go to trial, so should Usmani. At the very least, Usmani should be publicly condemned and ridiculed by prominent Muslim thinkers in Muslim countries. Consider the nature of his work. Islam and Modernism is broadside attack against modernist Muslim thinking and Western civilization. Usmani is critical of modern practices such as charging interest, women and men working together, birth control, and science that it is not used to further religious thinking. Even Americaââ¬â¢s moon landing in 1969 is described as an ââ¬Åinternational crime.ââ¬Â However, it is his chapter on offensive jihad, which he calls aggressive jihad, that is most significant for purposes of Wildersââ¬â¢ trial. Offensive jihad is the Islamic doctrine that requires Muslims to subjugate unbelievers to Islamic rule by imposing a number of restrictions, including paying a special tax known as the jizya. Usmani categorically rejects the idea, stated by some modern Muslim thinkers, that offensive jihad can be abandoned if Muslims are freely allowed to proselytize among non-Muslims (though non-Muslims can never freely proselytize in Muslim countries). He states that ââ¬Åin my humble knowledge there has not been a single incident in the entire history of Islam where Muslims had shown their willingness to stop jihad just for one condition that they be allowed to preach Islam freely.ââ¬Â He cites the Quran to the effect that ââ¬Åkilling is to continue until the unbelievers pay jizyah after they are humbled and overpowered.ââ¬Â Usmani is a ââ¬Åmoderateââ¬Â in that he does not favor waging offensive jihad until Muslims are strong enough. Thus, peace agreements ââ¬Åalong with all efforts to accumulate the sources of power [by the Muslims] are indeed lawfulââ¬Â¦If Muslims do not possess the capability of ââ¬ËJehad with powerââ¬â¢ agreement may be made till the power is attained.ââ¬Â However, once that strength is attained, offensive jihad must be launched. Though he does not mention it, Usmani appears to be basing this tactic on Muhammadââ¬â¢s temporary treaty with the Quraysh tribe known as ââ¬ÅThe Treaty of Hudabiyyahââ¬Â. He made this treaty at a time when Muslims were too weak to fight the Quraysh. Whether one agrees or disagrees with Wildersââ¬â¢ and Usmaniââ¬â¢s interpretation of Islam is beside the point. The real question is: How can Wilders be prosecuted for agreeing with the interpretation of a world-renowned Islamic thinker and scholar ââ¬â a scholar who has never been accused of hate speech or insulting Islam? At the very least, Islam and Modernism should be submitted as a defense exhibit at Wildersââ¬â¢ trial. http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/03/wilders%E2%80%99-best-witness/ Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 06-22-2010 The Trouble with Dr. Zakir Naik Wall Street Journal By S. Dhume http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704365204575317833268479268.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEFTTopBucket If you're looking for a snapshot of India's hapless response to radical Islam, then look no further than Bombay-based cleric Dr. Zakir Naik. In India, the 44-year-old Dr. Naikââ¬âa medical doctor by training and a televangelist by vocationââ¬âis a widely respected figure, feted by newspapers and gushed over by television anchors. The British, however, want no part of him. On Friday, the newly elected Conservative-led government announced that it would not allow Dr. Naik to enter Britain to deliver a series of lectures. According to Home Secretary Theresa May, the televangelist has made "numerous comments" that are evidence of his "unacceptable behavior." The good doctor's views run the gamut from nutty to vile, so it's hard to pinpoint which of them has landed him in trouble. For instance, though Dr. Naik has condemned terrorism, at times he also appears to condone it. "If he [Osama bin Laden] is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him," he said in a widely watched 2007 YouTube diatribe. "If he is terrorizing the terrorists, if he is terrorizing America the terrorist, the biggest terrorist, I am with him. Every Muslim should be a terrorist." Dr. Naik recommends the death penalty for homosexuals and for apostasy from the faith, which he likens to wartime treason. He calls for India to be ruled by the medieval tenets of Shariah law. He supports a ban on the construction of non-Muslim places of worship in Muslim lands and the Taliban's bombing of the Bamiyan Buddhas. He says revealing clothes make Western women "more susceptible to rape." Not surprisingly, Dr. Naik believes that Jews "control America" and are the "strongest in enmity to Muslims." Of course, every faith has its share of cranks; and, arguably, India has more than its share. But it's impossible to relegate Dr. Naik to Indian Islam's fringe. Earlier this year, the Indian Express listed him as the country's 89th most powerful person, ahead of Nobel Laureate economist Amartya Sen, eminent lawyer and former attorney general Soli Sorabjee, and former Indian Premier League cricket commissioner Lalit Modi. Dr. Naik's satellite TV channel, Peace TV, claims a global viewership of up to 50 million people in 125 countries. On YouTube, a search for Dr. Naik turns up more than 36,000 hits. Nobody accuses Dr. Naik of direct involvement in terrorism, but those reportedly drawn to his message include Najibullah Zazi, the Afghan-American arrested last year for planning suicide attacks on the New York subway; Rahil Sheikh, accused of involvement in a series of train bombings in Bombay in 2006; and Kafeel Ahmed, the Bangalore man fatally injured in a failed suicide attack on Glasgow airport in 2007. Nonetheless, when the doctor appears on a mainstream Indian news channel, his interviewers tend to be deferential. Senior journalist and presenter Shekhar Gupta breathlessly introduced his guest last year as a "rock star of televangelism" who teaches "modern Islam" and "his own interpretation of all the faiths around the world." A handful of journalistsââ¬âamong them Praveen Swami of the Hindu, and the grand old man of Indian letters, Khushwant Singhââ¬âhave questioned Dr. Naik's views, but most take his carefully crafted image of moderation at face value. At first glance, it's easy to understand why. Unlike the foaming mullah of caricature, Dr. Naik eschews traditional clothing for a suit and tie. His background as a doctor and his often gentle demeanor set him apart, as does his preaching in English. Unlike traditional clerics, Dr. Naik quotes freely from non-Muslim scripture, including the Bible and the Vedas. (You have to pay attention to realize that invariably this is either to disparage other faiths, or to interpret them in line with his version of Islam.) The depth of Dr. Naik's learning is easily apparent. But this doesn't fully explain Dr. Naik's escape from criticism. It helps that Indians appear to have trouble distinguishing between free speech and hate speech. In a Western democracy, demanding the murder of homosexuals and the second-class treatment of non-Muslims would likely attract public censure or a law suit. In India, it goes unchallenged as long as it has a religious imprimatur. However, create a book or a painting that ruffles religious sentiment, as the writer Taslima Nasreen and the painter M. F. Husain both discovered, and either the government or a mob of pious vigilantes will strive to muzzle you. In general, India accords extra deference to allegedly holy men of all stripes unlike, say, France, which strives to keep religion out of the public square. Taxpayers subsidize the Haj pilgrimage for pious Muslims and a similar, albeit much less expensive, journey for Hindus to a sacred lake in Tibet. This reflexive deference effectively grants the likes of Dr. Naikââ¬âalong with all manner of Hindu and Christian charlatansââ¬âprotection against the kind of robust scrutiny he would face in most other democracies. Finally, unlike Hindu bigots, such as the World Hindu Council's Praveen Togadia, whose fiercest critics tend to be fellow Hindus, radical Muslims go largely unchallenged. The vast majority of Indian Muslims remain moderate, but their leaders are often fundamentalists and the community has done a poor job of policing its own ranks. Moreover, most of India's purportedly secular intelligentsia remains loath to criticize Islam, even in its most radical form, lest this be interpreted as sympathy for Hindu nationalism. Unless this changes, unless Indians find the ability to criticize a radical Islamic preacher such as Dr. Naik as robustly as they would his Hindu equivalent, the idea of Indian secularism will remain deeply flawed. Mr. Dhume, a columnist for WSJ.com, is writing a book on the new Indian middle class Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 06-24-2010 [url="http://islamicterrorism.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/after-uk-"]After UK, Canada bans Zakir Naik[/url] Quote:NEW DELHI, INDIAââ¬âCanada has cancelled the travel visa of a controversial television preacher from Mumbai who was scheduled to speak at an upcoming religious conference in Toronto. Appointed Prime Minister can make him his delegate. Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 07-06-2010 [url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100705/wl_sthasia_afp/indiaeducationcrimereligion"]Indian teacher's hand cut off for alleged Mohammed slight[/url] Quote:THIRUVANANTHAPURAM, India (AFP) ââ¬â Two Indian men were arrested on Monday over an attack on a college teacher who had his hand cut off for setting an exam question that allegedly insulted Muslims, police said. Where I can find Congress starting Dharna and Roy, Chatterji etc standing in front of TV and criticizing Islam etc. Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 07-12-2010 [url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Muslim-clerics-oppose-Right-to-Education/H1-Article1-570935.aspx"]Muslim clerics oppose Right to Education[/url] Quote:Nearly a year after India passed the landmark right to education law making schooling compulsory, influential madrasa administrators are preparing to resist it, maintaining the law is a threat to Muslim religious schools. Seminary leaders from all sects will assemble in Delhi in July-end for consultations They want to stay in stone age and want to drag others along with them. Congress party is rubber stamp of Muslims and enemy of Hindus. Radical Islam and internal security - G.Subramaniam - 07-12-2010 A good move by the Kerala church http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jul/12/is-the-church-in-kerala-boycotting-muslim-shops.htm Kerala's [ Images ] influential Catholic church has planned a silent boycott of Muslim-run shops in Muvattupuzha, Kothamangalam and Thodupuzha areas following the chopping of Professor T D Joseph's palm by alleged Popular Front activists. Sources in Muvattupuzha told rediff.com say there is a silent movement spearheaded by the local parish with the support and connivance of the higher-ups in the community to boycott certain shops belonging to Muslims. Sources in Thodupuzha said even without the Church's backing, the Roman Catholics of the area have stopped calling cabbies driven by Muslims and are even boycotting shops belonging to the Muslim community. A senior police officer in Muvattupuzha said that unless immediate action is taken, communal polarisation could happen, which would have wider ramifications across the state. More than the attack, what hurt the community was the way the Popular Front has praised the barbaric action. While a section of the community wants a tit-for-tit reply, the majority seeks to boycott the Muslim community. A person, who attended the Sunday mass at the Nirmala Church in Muvattupuzha , the place were Prof Joseph was attacked, told rediff.com that the situation was grim and the priest had given a Sunday message, which included "everything but not attacking anyone openly". Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 07-12-2010 [quote name='Mudy' date='12 July 2010 - 10:44 AM' timestamp='1278911197' post='107412'] [url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Muslim-clerics-oppose-Right-to-Education/H1-Article1-570935.aspx"]Muslim clerics oppose Right to Education[/url] They want to stay in stone age and want to drag others along with them. Congress party is rubber stamp of Muslims and enemy of Hindus. [/quote] Mudy, The problem here is that the very same regulations that will complicate the existence of madrassas will also cause problems for Veda Pathashalas. Pretty much, all forms of vedic and smarta learning in the South will be wiped out. In one generation, we will see the last of the Veda Pandits. This is something worth fighting for. This is something worth allying with the Muslims for. Radical Islam and internal security - Pandyan - 07-12-2010 Some veda patashalas have "MODEN" idukition along with traditional vedic education. So this dumb ass law wont totally destroy vedic tradition. Another example of inyaan state trying to impose sickularism on everyone. Radical Islam and internal security - Guest - 07-26-2010 [url="http://www.hindustantimes.com/Indian-fakir-arrested-for-beheading-infant-police/H1-Article1-577995.aspx"]Indian 'fakir' arrested for beheading infant: police[/url] Quote:Police in southern India said Monday they had arrested a self-styled Muslim "fakir" for the gruesome murder of an infant boy in a ritual he believed would lend him supernatural powers. Abdul Gafoor, a mystic who claimed he could perform magical feats, had confessed to kidnapping the 18-month-old in the southern city of Madurai and then beheading him, police inspector Chidambaram Murugesan told the news agency. Why he is referred as Indian not Muslim as media write when Hindus are involved. Radical Islam and internal security - Bharatvarsh2 - 08-21-2010 [quote name='vishwas' date='12 July 2010 - 08:17 AM' timestamp='1278940197' post='107419'] Mudy, The problem here is that the very same regulations that will complicate the existence of madrassas will also cause problems for Veda Pathashalas. Pretty much, all forms of vedic and smarta learning in the South will be wiped out. In one generation, we will see the last of the Veda Pandits. This is something worth fighting for. This is something worth allying with the Muslims for. [/quote] Just found something related to this issue: Quote:(draftt petition)Exemption to certain clause Right to Children Education Pathetic. Hindus have to write petition to the scum in the Indian gov't who are trying to destroy everything about this 5000 year old civilization. Thanks for making the above post vishwas because so many Hindus are semi Christianized or Westernized and reflexively anti Muslim on every issue. The Indian gov't should stop trying to meddle into issues that don't concern them. Radical Islam and internal security - Bharatvarsh2 - 08-21-2010 Quote:NOTE ON VEDIC/ SANSKRIT PATHASHALAS AND THE EFFECT OF THE RIGHT OF CHILDREN TO Radical Islam and internal security - HareKrishna - 08-22-2010 according to this law,are madrases and catholic schools also to be close? Radical Islam and internal security - Bharatvarsh2 - 08-22-2010 Don't know about Xtian schools. Madrasas won't be closed, they got an exemption or will get one. Radical Islam and internal security - G.Subramaniam - 08-23-2010 Recent Articles at Milligazette are openly seditious |