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Wikileaks - India - dhu - 12-09-2010 Quote:September 2010: Everyone gets attacked after Bollywood tries to shut down torrent site Pirate Bay Wikileaks - India - dhu - 12-09-2010 This is what I think is happening. SD is a low level org which is responsible for feeding media with the news output. These are areas where media specialists like clinton operate and the cables are the raw material which get filtered into 'news stories', which are then planted into media houses. low level media operatives like clintons are occasionally given taste of power but usually it will revert to back to high level agency operatives like bushes and obama. no references to church in cables indicates that these are output cables and not feedback cables; this is clear as well in the post LTTE cable. USG's Technocratic harem is diverted by soft pursuits like 'the pirates bay' and the entire cultural matrix which is the new age culture, in return for which or in opium of which, they perform the necessary technical services in foreign subversion. However, this cultural matrix is also a major source of revenue for the USG and also conduit for its hold upon the general populace/laity. So regulations are placed upon this alterna culture. Because of cognitive dissonance, fleeting appreciation of the 'hypocrisy' of the system (disconnect between stated intention and action; which is also a necessary condition for system operation), technocrats may occasionally "convert" and "go rogue". This is what happened to Manning; the trigger was possibly the DDOS attack upon Pirate's bay, which technocrats took as a personal insult (after all, it is their territory being attacked by their own methods and that too by outsourced indian technocrats). In childish rage, the technocrats retaliated by releasing the efferent limb of SD interfaces with media (which interfaces with the gen populace and which alone is in a position to be released). USG Decision making network is secure and not in position to be released. The feedback cables are part of the secure network and not in position to be released. Only output interfaces with media are in a position to be released. Upon reading these output cables, gurus expect full disclosure but only encounter raw material for public consumption; hence the appearance of a false flag. Wikileaks - India - shamu - 12-09-2010 In the end, this drama will be used by US government to put more controls on the internet. Wikileaks - India - HareKrishna - 12-10-2010 [quote name='shamu' date='09 December 2010 - 10:40 PM' timestamp='1291914127' post='109749'] In the end, this drama will be used by US government to put more controls on the internet. [/quote] and the freedom of speech? Wikileaks - India - ramana - 12-10-2010 So the Indian DOO(Dork Oracle Operators) acted like internet ronin (freelance ninjas) and triggered the whole episode of wikipees. Even the best bolly/hollywood script writer cannot dream this one up! Wikileaks - India - dhu - 12-11-2010 [url="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/11/world/asia/11myanmar.html"]On Myanmar, U.S. and China Worked Closely, Cables Show[/url] Perhaps Hindutvaadis penned these cables. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Now, it makes sense how Chinese could oppose the US in Korea and Vietnam after the Chinese US pact in WW2 and initial/known Missionary/Agency influence on Communist Leadership. Leaders of both countries had an understanding and all jokers in field were sacrificed as show only! That means the nation-state itself is a propaganda mask! India is the same case except that heathen consciousness survived active in India, while only passive in post-Boxer China. Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-11-2010 [quote name='HareKrishna' date='10 December 2010 - 01:46 AM' timestamp='1291925302' post='109754'] and the freedom of speech? [/quote] Motto of current administration - ââ¬ÅYou don't ever want a crisis to go to waste" Wikileaks - India - Bharatvarsh2 - 12-12-2010 Quote:Congress played minority politics post 26/11 Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-13-2010 Divijay Singh is busy continuing that process. Wikileaks - India - Bharatvarsh2 - 12-13-2010 Quote:A UK newspaper pointed out that some supposed WikiLeaks cables critical of Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-17-2010 [url="http://news.oneindia.in/2010/12/17/rahul-fears-hindu-terrorism-in-india-wikileaks.html"]Rahul fears Hindu terrorism in India: WikiLeaks[/url] Quote:The leaked cables published on Guardian revealed that Rahul Gandhi, warned US ambassador Timothy Roemer in 2009 about the increasing tension over the "growth of radicalised Hindu groups which create religious tensions and political confrontations with the Muslim community". What a moron is this guy? Cable http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2008/12/08NEWDELHI3228.html Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-17-2010 Quote: Rahul is an elusive contact: US envoy: Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-17-2010 Quote:Rahul's Wiki: Cong hopes for conspiracy theory: Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-17-2010 [url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/97802"]US embassy cables: India a diffident ally in the 'war on terror' - US[/url] Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-17-2010 Rahul Wiki: India unwilling to tackle Naxals: And another one... Rahul Gandhi says at the same meeting that India is unwilling to take on Naxalism and is focussed on jehadis. Let's watch the drama unfold, ladies and gentleman. This time around, the Congress will not be able to distance itself from the future prime minister, like the way it has with Digvijay Singh. Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-17-2010 11:14 AM The who, what, where of the Rahul WikiLeaks: Here's the whenandwhere and what on the Rahul Gandhi WikiLeaks. When and where: According to a secret US diplomatic cable from New Delhi released by WikiLeaks, the conversation happened between at a luncheon hosted by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh at his residence in July 2009 Who: Conversation between Congress General Secretary Rahul Gandhi and US ambassador Timothy Roemer What: The question was about the LeT's activities in the region and immediate threat to India. "Gandhi said there was evidence of some support for the group among certain elements in India's indigenous Muslim community," the cable notes. "However, Gandhi warned, the bigger threat may be the growth of radicalised Hindu groups, which create religious tensions and political confrontations with the Muslim community," it says. Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-17-2010 [url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/16/wikileaks-india-biological-terrorism-fears"]WikiLeaks cables: US officials voiced fears India could be target of biological terrorism[/url] Senior Indian diplomat told US in 2006 that concerns about biological weapons were 'no longer academic' Quote:"[Diplomat YK] Singh reported that Indian intelligence is picking up chatter indicating jihadi groups are interested in bioterrorism, for example seeking out like-minded PhDs in biology and biotechnology," a cable sent to Washington reports. Quote:Another cable warns that "advances in the biotech sector and shifting terrorist tactics that focus on disrupting India's social cohesion and economic prosperity oblige the [government of India] to look at the possibility of terror groups using biological agents as weapons of mass destruction and economic and social disruption". Quote:The cable reports Menon telling Boucher: "Let's not insult one another by telling a story that the Pakistan army was not involved ... They're either unwilling to take action, or incapable, or both; any way you look at it, they're involved." Rahul Gadha will blame Hindus. Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-17-2010 [url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/250910"]US embassy cables: Indian Home Minister told FBI that terrorist sleeper cells waiting to strike in India[/url] [url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/102286"]US embassy cables: How India can help stabilise Afghanistan[/url] Most recent - wiki leaks http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/india Wikileaks - India - Guest - 12-17-2010 Rahul remarks crass communalism, says BJP: Here are the details of the BJP's reactions to the Rahul Gandhi's comments. BJP spokesperson Ravishankar Prasad (the man who never smiles) has condemned Congress leader Rahul Gandhi's remarks that radicalised Hindu groups could pose a "bigger threat" to India than the LeT. Prasad said "in one stroke", he has given a "big leverage" to the propaganda of all terror groups in Pakistan. He said the remarks were "Irresponsible. It is in the public domain and the US government has neither denied nor confirmed it. Therefore, it has sanctity." Prasad said such remarks impinge upon India's strategic security and fight against terrorism. "If he sees a fringe radical Hindu group as the biggest threat in spite of so many terrorist attacks including 26/11 in which involvement of Pakistani groups is confirmed, then it only underscores how ignorant he is about India and its problems," the BJP leader said. [color="#FF0000"]The party also attacked him for making such remarks to a foreign diplomat and not before the Indian Parliament and said the opposition would take up the issue in next Parliament session and also before the people.[/color] He said the PM has publicly acknowledged that Maoism and terrorist threat from across the border are the biggest challenges before India and Rahul Gandhi says certain lunatic, marginalised Hindu radical groups are the biggest threat?" Senior opposition leader Prakash Javadekar said the statement shows[size="5"] "crass communalism and jaundiced world view".[/size] Wikileaks - India - Husky - 12-17-2010 [quote name='Mudy' date='17 December 2010 - 10:31 AM' timestamp='1292561589' post='109864'] [url="http://news.oneindia.in/2010/12/17/rahul-fears-hindu-terrorism-in-india-wikileaks.html"]Rahul fears Hindu terrorism in India: WikiLeaks[/url] Quote:Quote What a moron is this guy? Cable http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2008/12/08NEWDELHI3228.html [/quote] Raoul may be a moron. But the people who scripted his speech and told him to speak his part aren't. That has Vatican fingerprints all over it. They've been laying the ground for the "Hindu terror" fiction just so they can spread it everywhere, even as their Christian Inquistion can torture and disappear innocent Hindus at will. What Raoul Gandhi has mouthed is the same propaganda that the Vatican mouthpiece Italian site "AsianNews.it" has been peddling. See point 3 of post 200 of the "Hindu Terror" Eidolon thread. The bit that starts with: Quote:3. Is it christian? Oh yes, yes it is. Check out the report of the Italian Vatican mouthpiece for Asia called AsiaNews.itRest of that article in the aforementioned post The lies against Hindus/Hindu religion is ongoing at that site. And it has been foreshadowing (i.e practically pre-planning) a lot of what the crypto-christo Indian govt and its ATS and CBI arms have been doing: hinting/insisting on their direction of action against Hindus I mean "Hindu Terror". And now Raoul's opinion is "miraculously" in line with the Vatican mouthpiece. What a great "coincidence" that he/sis Bianca/their mother Antonia are all faithful catholics too. Raoul is just parroting Vatican guidelines. It has a plan (to proscribe Hindu religion and further alienate the secularised ex-Hindus/would-have-been Hindus from Hindu religion/Hindus/Hindu causes). And 'tis a very scary plan. Christianism has been laying the foundation for and started propagating the "Hindu Terror" fictions for the following reasons: 1. To offset their christofiction of "Hindu terror" against the very real and documented christian and islamic terrorisms in India. Christianism has ethnically cleansed and outright genocided a Huge Number of Dharmics in India over the last decades (apparently more than islam has achieved - yet no one hears the sensitive seculars mentioning this), and taken over huge swathes of indigenous Dharmic Indian land in a short amount of time by ethnically cleansing the native Dharmics from their homes. And where in the christomedia in India is this data reported? Nowhere at all. (Because it is christomedia: invisibility of christian terror in Indian news, coupled with visibility of islamic terror and constant harping on the invented christofiction is yet another indication that it's *christo* media.) Instead only the "Hindu terror" fiction is repeated over and over. And more stories are regularly invented/inserted in line with this by the christomedia, to prop up the notion of such "terror" being ongoing. It is a mechanism both to conceal christian terrorism from the public view/knowledge, and to create an equal-equal situation with islamism. "Hindu religion is as bad as islam" 2. Worse: to give incentive to proscribe Hindu religion at a future date. With the latest 'development' (pre-planned) in christo-opinion: "Hindu religion is more dangerous than islam". I.e. using nothing but dawaganda. But Propaganda, as all know, is THE skill of the catholic church (of all christianisms in general, but the catholic church is Da Adept). Christianism, after all, famously invented propaganda, for Known (and predictable) Purposes. http://www.nobeliefs.com/ChurchesWWII.htm Christianity in Europe during WWII Quote:Forcing Jews, and heretics into the Catholic faith, of course has always served as a hallmark of Catholicism. [color="#FF0000"]When they could not legally use strong-arm tactics they used propaganda.[/color] Although most people associate the term with Hitler, propaganda actually came as an invention by the Catholics long before the Nazis, from the Sacra Congregatio de Propaganda Fide, an organization established by Pope Gregory XV in 1622.Subversion, propaganda, libel, fiction, ..., genocide, ethnic cleansing. In these, christianism is the King (and if one could consider a King of Kings among them, that distinction would go to catholicism). 3. They use it to further incense Indian and neighbouring islamania against Hindus, precisely so the islamaniacs will screech about even more "justification" to genocide Hindus some more. To an applauding christomedia and christopublic and a silently approving christogovt, all too happy to have more Hindus massacred, with no visible blood on their=christianism's hands. 4. To eventually use the invented "Hindu terror" versus the real islamic terror to tell the gullible Indians - again using christomedia and modern 'popular culture' etc - that "both religions are equally evil" and that "christianism alone brings peace". (<- Standard christian lie. Seen applied regularly everywhere, including in Shree Lanka.) "Just accept jeebus/the prince of peace into your hearts and he will 'free' you all/India from terrorism with his 'love'." 5. The Christian Inquisition of the Hindus = the real state of affairs. Since "Hindu Terror" is a ruse to take out - key Hindus (by torturing them in christianism's attempts to get a 'confession' out of them - why it's called the *inquisition* - and then silencing/disappearing said Hindus) and - key Hindu and other nationalist orgs who oppose christianisation of India by raising their voices/making effort against conversion activities. 6. To attempt to repeat what christianism had done to Jews (ever since after christianism had genocided the Pagani and other Hellenes - i.e. Romans and Greeks). That is, creating conspiracy against a population by inventing and propagating libel: to create international dislike and revulsion of Hindus, despite the fact that Hindus together with other Dharmics of India are the indigenous of the country and are the real victims of the ongoing terrorism=christoislamania. 7. To brainwash the gullible secular, secularised, secularising masses further against Hindus, Hindu causes and Hindu religion. Christianism hopes dearly that their invention of "Hindu Terror" will make all things Hindu entirely untouchable to the alienated Indian populace which already likes to think of itself as 'progressive'/free of 'backward' Hindu religion. With its latest Lie, christianism hopes to turn even any vestige of sympathy in the secularised/alienated formerly-Hindu Indians against Hindu religion altogether. The christian support for islamic terrorism Kashmir (and their subsequent drumming up of international support for islamania in Kashmir while creating international anti-Hinduness concerning the situation of the Dharmic J&K state) was also hatched quite early, well before the Onlooking Internationals joined in with their opinionations and condemnations. The whole "Hindu terror" fiction can likewise be added as just another episode in the Christian Propaganda against Hindus + the Christian Encouragement of Islamic Jihad. The news that BV posted on the wikileaks purporting that the US was taken aback upon discovering that the christo-congress would resort to peddling fictions on "Hindu Terror murdered Karkare" instead of the christoislami-terrorism that really murdered him is interesting in that: a. while it is true that the congress wants to stay in power at all costs, including by lying (in order to gain the islamic vote), its determination to retain power, its willingness to christo-lie, its desperation to christo-woo islam - are all because the congress is christo: for the christianisation of India to have any chance of success, it's crucial that christianism remains in power in India, and - not having sufficient numbers/leverage to ensure this yet, despite christomedia etc - it cannot do so without its partner in crime, islamism. (Plus through cheating through electronic voting fraud, plus through lying with inventions of "hindu terror", and the "hindu taliban at the pubs" who were all set to be filmed by the christomedia which had "miraculously" arrived earlier at the scene with camera in position - as christonews itself admitted). b. AmeriKKKa's supposed surprise at christo-congress' most eager willingness to accuse "Hindu Terror" of Karkare's murder, instead of the known culprit of islamania, means one can consider looking a bit further for where the christobrains behind the support for this little twist came from. But no need to go further than the Vatican/catholicism/their planted foot-soldiers in India. AsiaNews.it has been interesting reading, I found. At times it's like "miraculously" getting Indian christomedia 'news' (=christoPropaganda) months in advance. Miraculous for known reasons. With any luck, only 2 popes to go. |