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A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-03-2009
<b>Grief at homes of pilots, 2 officers</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Indian Air Force personnel made a beeline to the house of Group Captain Bhatia, who was Reddy's personal pilot, at the Sylvan Greens Township here to console the bereaved family.
Bhatia's wife is reported to be in a state of shock and not allowing even close relatives to speak to her. Two constables from Bollarum Police Station have been posted to control the crowd.
Rural Development Minister V. Vasanthakumar and MLC Indrasen Reddy visited the bereaved family. Besides his wife, Bhatia is also survived by his two sons.
Co-pilot M S Reddy's residence at Vidyanagar was also a scene of gloom as his family members were in deep shock.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - ramana - 09-03-2009
Mudy,
Please merge all the YSR related posts into this thread. The condolence messages cast a different light in the unknown aspects of YSR's career.
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-03-2009
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Please merge all the YSR related posts into this thread. The condolence messages cast a different light in the unknown aspects of YSR's career.
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all merged.
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-03-2009
Conspiracy theory already started
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<b>Link Between YSRâS Death And Sooreedu's Absence</b>
Andhra Pradesh CM YS Rajasekhara Reddy breathed his last yesterday and the news has come today. Now a sentiment is being discussed in big way across the state. There is a big legend that surrounds the reason for Sooreeduâs presence along with YSR from many years. Earlier, a soothsayer said to YSRâs father Raja Reddy to always move along with Sooreedu to be safe.
The soothsayer said it seems,<b> âThere is a karmic bond between Sooreedu and your family, which even Sorredu doesnât know. Never leave him. The moment you are away from him, you are prone to riskâ. From then Raja Reddy never stood away from Sooreedu whenever he was moving out except on the day of his death. Yes, Raja Reddy moved out without Sooreedu on a day that happened to be his last day as he was assassinated.</b>
With that the sentiment of Sooreedu has strong among CMâs family members. Hence YSR always moved along with Sooreedu. But he missed going along with him yesterday that happened to be last day. Probably, because of not caring that sentiment big amidst his duties or the day has come for him.
This discussion is now on top among the friends those know about the legend that surrounds Sooreedu from many decades.
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A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-03-2009
<b>Prominent Indian Christian Politician Dies in Chopper Crash</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Under his leadership, the state had appealed to the federal government to amend the Indian Constitution to provide for granting the Scheduled Caste status to millions of Untouchable âDalitâ Christians that will give them many benefits
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<b>Global Council of Indian Christians (</b>GCIC) has deeply mourned the death of CM Reddy, who was a medical practitioner before he entered politics.
<b>Dr Sajan K George, GCIC National President</b> has expressed his condolence over the untimely death of Dr. YSR Reddy. Dr Sajan said, âAndhra Pradesh Chief Minister Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy was a pro poor politician and his death is a big loss for the State.â
âHis leadership was invaluable and he was one of the leading figures of the country.
âThanks to Dr. YSR Reddy, Andhra Pradesh State Assembly adopted a resolution seeking Scheduled Caste status to Dalit Christians.â
âDr. Reddy had appealed to the Centre to amend the Indian Constitution to provide for granting the Scheduled Caste status to Dalit Christians,â Dr. Sajan said.
Born into a protestant Christian family at Pulivendula in Cuddapah district on July 8, 1949,
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A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-03-2009
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Thatâs too bad â re: Indian Christians having a caste mentality. I would guess itâs become a cultural thing rather than religious thing by now. Weâll continue to pray for them.
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These Sri Lankan converts are worst on net, when it comes to demonise Hindus.
Above are comments on YSR death.
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Bodhi - 09-03-2009
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According to a regional portal, wowtelugu.com, YSR was a second-generation Christian. His father Raja Reddy became Christian through missionaries while serving in the military in Burma. âAfter returning to India, he was despised by his own caste folk and shunted out of the village. By this time, missionaries in India were leaving the shores and handing over the administration of the Church to the national Indians. It was in 1947 that the Church of South India [one of four united churches in the Anglican Communion] was formed. Sri Raja Reddy began to attend the Church Services of this congregation.â
The Evangelical Fellowship of India (EFI) issued a statement today expressing profound grief over his death. âThe late YSR Reddy in his message dated 19 August 2009 to EFI on the occasion of All India Congress on Church in Mission expressed his gratitude to the âChristian Churches in India for their service to the nation in the field of education, health and social work and for promoting peace, reconciliation and development of all communities irrespective of caste and creedâ,â said the statement.
As a public figure, YSR regularly prayed at Hindu temples, such as the Tirumala Venkateswara Temple, which has a huge following in Andhra Pradesh. He also visited an Indian guru Satya Sai Baba in his ashram in Puttaparthy occasionally.
On September 2, when the search for the chief ministerâs chopper was underway, the Andhra Pradesh Endowments Minister Gade Venkat Reddy directed all temples to conduct special prayers for his safe return. Even the Tirumala Venkateswara Temple observed special prayers, reported The Hindu newspaper.
However, Hindu nationalists accused him of allowing missionaries to lure Hindus to Christianity and launched attacks on Christians since he became the chief minister in 2004. Several Christian priests and workers have been killed in the numerous attacks in the last few years. He was also flayed for tightening control over more than 1,84,000 temples in the state under the Hindu Temple Endowment Act.
During the missing chopperâs search operation on September 2, some intolerant Indians flooded the websites of daily newspapers with comments suggesting that God was punishing him for his âconversionâ agenda. âThis is big game of Christians, I hope God will punish YSR family if he escapes from this crash. He would like to change the stateâs name as âJesus Pradeshâ. Oh God, please punish him, punish him, punish him⦠save great Andhra Pradesh,â was one such comment by a person who identified himself only as Prashanth on the website of the Express Buzz dai
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A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-03-2009
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It could be as YSR thought of doing trechery at the head of Adishesha and he is dead on his tail. No one in AP ( including serious criminals) will even think of doing something to the seven hills of balaji. YSR did. During the 90s there was a movie called Govinda Govinda directed by Ram Gopal Varma in which he created a scene where a thief steals the Khireeta (the one studded with diamonds). The censor board removed the scene on the pretext that people will be agitated. The reality is the censor board members did not like to pass such a scene due to fear that something will happen to them.
One may beleive it or not, Lord Balaji is beyond everything and crossing such a redline is unthinkable/unimaginable.
http://www.tirumala.org/maintemple_legends_contest.htm
Read the story here:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->During the Dwaparayuga, Vayudeva (the Wind God) went to Vaikuntam to pay his obeisance to Lord Sri Vishnu. The Lord was reclining in the company of Sri Lakshmi. The doorway was guarded by Adisesha. Vayudeva was incensed when Adisesha prevented him from entering Sri Vishnuâs mansion. Adisesha and Vayudeva began to fight with each other.
When Lord Vishnu intervened, each was boasting of his superior valour and supreme might. To test who was stronger, the Lord suggested that Adisesha encircle the Ananda hill, an off-shoot of the Meru mountain on its northern side, and that Vayudeva blow hard to try and dislodge the Ananda hill from Adisesha's hold. The contest waxed furiously, and as the World trembled, Brahma, Indra and the other Divine Beings requested Adisesha to yield victory to Vayudeva for the welfare of the world.
Obliging them, Adisesha released his hold on the hill. As a result, Adisesha and the Ananda hill were blown away to the banks of the river Swarnamukhi. Adisesha was dejected by his defeat. Lord Brahma and the others appealed to him by saying that he would be merged with the hill Venkatadri and Vishnu would reside on him. Adisesha then metamorphosed into the vast Seshadri, with his hood manifesting itself as Venkatadri sustaining Sri Venkateswara, his middle as Ahobila supporting Lord Narasimha, and his tail as Srisailam bearing Lord Mallikarjuna (Lord Siva).
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I request those people who think that AP can be easily EJized, just take a deep breath. If you know how to read Telugu, read Adavi Bapiraju books like - Adavi Shanti Sree etc. 70% of AP converted to Buddhism during the peak of Buddhism but they re-converted back to Sanathan Dharam very quickly (two decades). It is a land of several famous temples and a huge economy is dependent on these temples. No one can simply come from outside and change the thousands of years of history.
YSR is just the peak for EJs and what they could acheive is neligible.
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-03-2009
Why the search for YSR made us uneasy<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The helicopter crashed at a spot 10 km from Rudrakoduru and army commandos had to slither down ropes from a rescue helicopter to get to the crash site.
<b>This so-called hostile terrain is actually sacred terrain for the Chenchus. It is hostile terrain for urbanised India only because its developmental record is so poor that we can't use our mobile phone, nor can send our SUVs to the spot quickly.
The Nallamallai forests are considered divine by many -- it is where the famous Mallikarjun Jyotirlinga is located in Srisailam in Kurnool district. It is quite close to the seven hills of Tirupati and CM Reddy's hometown in Cuddapah.</b>
When the search for the CM began, all manmade resources were looking so tiny or impotent<b>. When the choppers were unable to locate YSR, the Chenchus were contacted. Those who were ignored since ages were VVIPs for a day.
They have remained without development in those forests. They consume roots, tubers, wild fruits, edible leaves etc. They are non-vegetarians but abstain from eating beef. The traditional house of a chenchu is a small conical or oblong hut with wattle walls and thatched roof. </b>
<b>On April 30, 2009, The Hindu had published a report titled 'Chenchus on brink of starvation'</b>.
In May 2009, in response to The Hindu report, the ITDA sent the report to the district collector in Kurnool. The report is a shocking reminder of poor education and health facilities for these tribals, who were needed to locate the chief minister. One of the remarks made by a project officer of that "hostile terrain" was that child mortality rate is higher than the state average due to malnutrition, alcoholism and a low calorie diet, and it also mentioned that due to lack of communication facilities more children are dying at the time of birth. The report also speaks of malaria and TB prevalent in the Nallamallai area.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Bharatvarsh - 09-03-2009
Let's just say that this is a very happy day for me especially because I am a Hindu who speaks Telugu.
cheemaki rekkalosthe egiregiri deepam meeda padi sachhindanta.
Oh & condolences to the families of the crew, only thing I am sad about.
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - ramana - 09-04-2009
A few links:
1) TOI: Did Officials know he was already dead?
2) TOI: SMS helped locate the chopper crash site
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - acharya - 09-04-2009
Mupalla - Can you send me an email
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-04-2009
A few links:
1) TOI: Did Officials know he was already dead?
From above link
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Land was close to his heart and there were allegations tha<b>t he had added to his estate in native Pulivendula by grabbing forest land.</b> An unprecedented number of scams hit the state during his regime including the Volkswagen scandal in which the state government paid Rs 11.5 crore to the person masquerading as a representative of the German company.
Politically, YSR was astute. Having been in the bad books of Narasimha Rao, he realized that he had to be in the good books of 10, Janpath. And he could do this by proving useful to the high command. <b>``YSR realized that the Congress wanted seats in the Lok Sabha and generous contributions to the party coffers. He worked hard for this and soon got in the good books of the powers that be,''</b> said a political analyst who knew the man from close. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-04-2009
<b>14 die of YSR shock in Andhra</b>
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-04-2009
<b>Nuclear Club Elite Member --- US, France, UK condole Reddy's death</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->French Ambassador to India Jerome Bonnafont said he learned with great sorrow of the tragic demise of Reddy and offered his deepest and most sincere condolences to his family, Andhra Pradesh and India.
"A highly respected statesman, Dr. Reddy had constantly worked towards enriching the historical relationship between France and Andhra Pradesh with a view to enhancing his state's potential for development," he said.
Bonnafont expressed his gratitude for Reddy's special commitment and said France shared the grief of Andhra Pradesh and the people of India.
Condoling the death, British High Commissioner Sir Richard Stagg said he was saddened to learn of the tragic and untimely death of Reddy.
The British government had worked very closely with the State of Andhra Pradesh during his five years as Chief Minister and it was an honour to support him as he worked tirelessly and effectively to put the state on the path to prosperity and development, Stagg said.
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Time to ponder , Why??
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-04-2009
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>SMS helps IAF men zero in on wreckage</b>
PNS | New Delhi
An SMS received on YS Rajasekhara Reddyâs chief security officer ASC Wesleyâs mobile phone at 12.06 pm on Wednesday provided a major clue to help locate the wreckage of the Bell-430 helicopter in the dense jungles of Kurnool.
While the nationâs biggest ever search and rescue mission was on to locate the chopper flying YSR, the mobile service providers informed the crisis management team in Hyderabad about the SMS sent to Wesley. It was received nearly two hours after the helicopter was reported missing at 9.13 am on Wednesday. Elaborating upon the SMS breakthrough, officials said that when the full-scale search started around 1.30 pm and the IAF launched helicopters from Hakimpet, the Secunderabad-based Helicopter Training School, the area to be scanned was over 10,000 sq km. The tracing of the SMS reduced the radius to be scoured to about 4 sq km, they said.
<b>The first few hours of search proved futile as the two Chetaks and an MI-8 helicopter, along with a Dornier and an Avro plane, found no trace of the crash. The IAF then decided to go by its own standard operating procedure for search and rescue.</b>
This line of probe led to the fact that the<b> helicopter had last established radio contact with ground at Shamsabad and Chennai airports at 9.10 am on Wednesday</b>. This vital information guided the IAF team to draw the <b>likely flight plan of the helicopter.</b> Moreover, the wide sweeping of the area throughout Wednesday evening and night by synthetic aperture radars of three SU-30 fighter jets also provided crucial data of the area to the crisis management team.
Meanwhile, the SMS was analysed by experts and the rescue team, including the IAF officers, managed to work out the co-ordinates and make a reasonable guess about the area where the mobile handset could be, sources said here on Thursday.
<b>The co-ordination of the information provided by the service providers and radio contact timing helped the two Chetak helicopters find the wreckage of the chopper at 8.30 am on Thursday. The exact location was 154714 North and 784263 East latitude. The mobile handset was most probably flung out of the helicopter during the crash. Sources said the other four handsets were in all probability destroyed. </b>
After the burnt chopper was finally detected, a team of police commandos heli-dropped on a hilltop near the wreckage site and discovered four bodies. The fifth body was found at 10.30 am, they added. All the bodies were then winched up as the helicopters could not land in the difficult terrain. Then these were transported to the Kurnool airfield.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - acharya - 09-04-2009
<b>Deep roots in Karnataka</b>
Srinivas Sirnoorkar and R Akhileshwari, Gulbarga/Hyderabad, Sept 4, DH News Ser
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Y S Rajasekhara Reddy has once confessed to his special sentimental attachment with Karnataka and Bangalore. That was just before he became Andhra Pradesh chief minister in May, 2004.
Memories: YSR (second from left) with classmates at St Johnâs High School in Bellary in the early 60âs. That is not surprising. Years before his daughter and son-in-law settled in Bangalore, Reddy, popularly known as YSR, spent nine years of his student life in Karnataka. Born in 1949 as Yeduguri Sandinti Rajasekhara Reddy, he did his schooling at St Johnâs High School, Bellary.
For one year he also pursued his graduation course in science in a Bellary collage. But his desire was to study medicine and a year later, in 1966, YSR joined the Mahadevappa Rampure Medical College (MRMC) in Gulbarga for the MBBS course. He had an eventful stint here for the next five years.
He was here that his political instincts took roots. He was a ânaturalâ leader of the Telugu students, willing to go the extra mile for his friends. This was admitted by none other than YSR himself when he visited his alma mater in 2005. He got a taste of being a leader there and that paved the way for his political debut, YSR had said. And, often there were rifts between students from the two states (Karnataka and Andhra).
As students from Andhra were capable of paying the standard donation of Rs 5,000, which was unaffordable for the locals at that time, they would quite often outnumber the Kannadigas and YSR championed the cause of students from his state. He had demonstrated his leadership skills during the studentâs days itself and had even become the general secretary of the studentsâ union.
âThough we were good friends, we used to keep a distance from each other due to the regional factor. He was average in studies and was hyperactive in extracurricular activities,ââ recalls Dr Mallikarjun Bhanadri, the current Dean of MRMC, who was YSRâs classmate.
Eminent physician Dr P S Shankar, who was YSRâs teacher, said he was equally interested in both academic and non-academic activities and quite often came to his house to seek guidance and advice.
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - ramana - 09-04-2009
No bomb involved?
A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - Guest - 09-04-2009
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A.P C.M YS Rajasekhara Reddy Missing - ramana - 09-04-2009
The oddest thing is SM Krishna rushing back from state visit to Brazil and hung up in Karachi airport. Why would he rush back. Is the govt of India so precarious that they had to rush these folks back? What is the secret issue that is causing so much agitation in INC leadership? How is the external minister involved in a state CM's death?