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Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-18-2006

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jul 18 2006, 02:06 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 18 2006, 02:06 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Indo-Pak talks breakdown leaves US frowned</b><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->WASHINGTON: A key Bush administration official on Monday advised India to rely on hard evidence before drawing conclusions in the Mumbai terror attacks, while obliquely criticizing New Delhi for implicating Islamabad in the blasts and calling off talks.

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reggieji,
Now what is your suggestion. See even US knows India is protecting its own Jihadist and blaming pious Paki Jihadist.
Don't you think water tap is better option without any announcement as NDA used to do. <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Now let me tell you what spineless Moron Singh will say, it is just postponed not cancelled. As track-2 is still on. Trade is going. Jatha will go again. Terrorist will get visa from Pakistan. Nothing had change MR. America. I am same Moron Singh.
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BTW how much hard evidence is there is Al Queda is actually behind 9/11 or about WMDs in Iraq. For US to advise India to rely on hard evidence is the heights of hypocrisy. US probably wants to use India as a lamb as it hunts its lions. Keep the terrorists something to play with locally so that UK and US are not bothered.

What I said above is not in support of Spineless.



Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

US had hard evidence within 2 days, including bank transaction, Video tapes of Airport, ATM transaction, where they stayed and even OBL video tape where he was gloating his action.

US intelligence did excellent job identifying culprits and collecting evidence.

Till now, India is unable to identify culprits, Why?
Either, Indian government is protecting someone/group or community
or Intelligence agency are complete dud.
I don't want to repeat what I think about GOI.
I am tired of B.Raman logic and repetition.


Iraq is something else. Part of long term strategy to neuter Middle East. Let them do otherwise they will bite us more.



Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Modi rips apart 'secular hypocrisy' </b>
Pioneer.com
TN Raghunatha | Mumbai
Charging the UPA Government with abysmal lack of will to fight terrorism, Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi not only castigated Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for his reluctance to revive POTA but also tore apart the hypocrisy on the part of those championing the cause of so-called secularism.

<b>"We have five-star activists. Whenever there are terror attacks, they are out to give moral protection to terrorists and those behind them. They come up with all kinds of logic,"</b> Modi said. 

<b>"Whoever speaks against terrorism, they are dubbed as communal. We have people among the political class, who are reluctant to speak up against these five-star activists, because they are worried about their image. In my case, I am not worried about my image but I am worried about India's image. That's why I speak my mind,"</b> said Modi.

Addressing <b>a jam-packed gathering at Shanumukhananda h</b>all in north-central Mumbai on Monday night, Modi launched a calibrated attack against the UPA Government for its "inability" to realise the importance of a crucial anti-terror law like POTA even in the wake of 11/7 Mumbai serial blasts. Over 200 people were killed and 700 others injured in the attack.

Making a strong case for the revival of POTA, Modi said that if the UPA Government did not want to revive POTA, why couldn't it empower various States in the country to bringing in similar legislation. "I can assure the PM that mine will be the first State to do so," he said.

In his 70-odd minute address, Modi was vehement when he said: "As long as I am alive, I would to go to any length to identify and punish the merchants of deaths."
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Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Police ignored IB report, Mumbai paid with 200 lives </b>
Pioneer.com
Pramod Kumar Singh | New Delhi
The failure on part of Mumbai Police to appreciate an advance input sent by the Intelligence Bureau (IB) <b>on June 25 this year is being attributed as one of the reasons for the 7/11 serial blasts.</b>

<b>The IB had warned Mumbai Police about a group of anti-national elements who had managed to smuggle 10 kg of RDX into the city. The report carried the names and possible hideouts of this group. It has now emerged that Mumbai Police sat over the intelligence report and did precious little to locate the group armed with deadly RDX and other ammunitions.</b> When Mumbai was rocked with serial blasts in local trains on July 11, the authorities realised their folly.

Sources said that the Centre has conveyed it displeasure to the Maharashtra Government about the conduct of certain top police officials in this episode and has asked for disciplinary action against the erring policemen.

Sources said that the <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Central agencies are upset over the way the Mumbai Police tried to put the probe on a wrong track by claiming use of dynamite and ammonium nitrate behind the blasts.</span> <b>This led to confusion about the perpetrators and contradicted the findings of a central team of forensic experts who had visited blasts sites and were unanimous about RDX being used in the blasts, highly placed sources said on Tuesday</b>. A report about RDX use was submitted to the National Security Advisor (NSA) who in turn apprised the Prime Minister about it.

<b>The modus operandi and the precision with which the task was carried out pointed towards the involvement of Pakistan-based terrorist groups and Inter Services Intelligence (ISI). </b>

However, <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>the flip flop by Mumbai Police to hide its own incompetence in a way negated the claims made by the Centre about the involvement of Lashkar-e-Tayyeba (LeT) and its local arm Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI).</span>

After the Mumbai police floated the ammonium nitrate theory, Central team of forensic experts was again sent to examine the blast sites and the wreckage of train compartments.<b> The team stood by its earlier findings and gave its opinion about large quantity of RDX being used for triggering the blasts. Red faced Mumbai Police officers then accepted a combination of high grade plastic explosives (read RDX), ammonium nitrate, fuel oil and timers were used to trigger bombs on the suburban trains.</b>

Even Chief Minister of Maharashtra, Vilasrao Deshmukh accepted about the advance intelligence input provided by the IB. 
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See I told you. Who is covering who?


Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

Here you go

<b>Shahi Imam ''absolves'' LeT, blames RSS for Mumbai blasts</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->' <b>I can say with authority that it is not any Muslim but the Shiv Sena, the RSS and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad who are responsible for the serial blasts in Mumbai,'' </b>Imam Syed Ahmed Bukhari told a gathering inside the historic mosque.

He cited the recent Sena backlash against the defilement of a statue of the late wife of the party chief as evidence that the Saffron forces were desperate to politically revive themselves in Maharashtra.

<b>The Imam was of the opinion that Muslim men were being blamed for ''every'' terrorist outrage as part of a deep rooted conspiracy.</b>

Community members were being harassed by law enforcing agencies in Mumbai in the wake of the serial blasts even though they had ''no role in the anti-Islamic outrages'', he said, slamming the Congress Governments in Maharashtra and at the Centre.
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''Why is it that security forces blame the Lashkar-e-Toiba within ten minutes of a blast. If they already know who did it, why don't they go ahead and arrest the culprits well before the crime is done,''</b> he asked.

He said he was willing to visit Pakistan and ''talk'' to the LeT commanders if he was given proof of its involvement in terrorist incidents in India. ''If they are responsible then we will talk to them, tell them that they do more harm to the cause of Islam and to Muslims in India through their actions''.

Imam Bukhari said he was worried that while real culprits went scot free and trigerred more blasts, ordinary Muslims were becoming terror suspects in the eyes of the people and the police. ''Every bearded man becomes a suspect'', he said.

<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>''When Muslims get targeted under these so called secular parties, it is time we teach them a lesson. It is time Shias, Sunnis, Ansaris, Saifis, Barelvis, Qureshis and all else stand up as one -- as Muslims -- and snatch back our collective rights and dignity,'' the Imam said, asking the community to stand up to the political challenge.

''We were rulers here for 800 years. Inshaallah, we shall return to power here once again'', he said to loud approval by the nearly 200 assembled men.</span>
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Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sumit Ganguly, director of the India Studies Program at Indiana University in the US, argued that India "should do far more than merely defer the 'composite dialogue'. Instead, it needs to embark on a relentless campaign to isolate Pakistan diplomatically and to reveal the Musharraf regime's organic ties to the jihadi terror network." He suggested that India "<b>dramatically downgrade its diplomatic presence</b> in Islamabad and end all ongoing cultural exchanges". It should launch a "sophisticated, orchestrated and sustained diplomatic campaign on a global basis that uses information available in the public domain to depict the Pakistani state as an incubator of terror".

Besides, India should "bluntly press the US, the UK and the members of the European Community to exert tangible pressure on the Musharraf regime. If necessary, India should be willing to place ongoing cooperative ventures with these states at some risk unless they prove willing to listen and act on India's vital concerns as regards Pakistan's feckless promotion of terror. Delhi cannot remain satisfied with pious and anodyne expressions of concern and sympathy from the West." http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HG19Df03.html<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<b>This is what I have been calling for the past few days. </b>

Also, for all the vaunted IB, RAW, and other sundry GOI agencies, it is inconceivable that THEY have NOT been able to have a voice on the America media. M. Izaj, the Paki apologist ALWAYS come out on FOX saving Paki's hide. If there was an "intelligence" agency in India, the Israel-Hezbollah crisis could have been milked to India's advantage.

Recall, the U.S. media, analysts are relentlessly gunning for Syria and Iran. It doesn't take a genius to LINK paki transfer of nuclear tech to Syria. Beat the drums, shout out from the rooftops, broadcast from every channel available.....

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The Washington Times | May 13, 2006 | Bill Gertz

U.S. intelligence agencies suspect Syria was offered and received nuclear weapons technology from the covert Pakistani supplier group headed by A.Q. Khan, according to an intelligence report.

An annual report to Congress on arms proliferation states that Pakistani investigators have confirmed reports from the International Atomic Energy Agency that the Khan network "offered nuclear technology and hardware to Syria."

"We are concerned that expertise or technology could have been transferred," said the intelligence report, which is the first time the <b>Bush administration has publicly linked Syria to Khan.</b> http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20...11553-7237r.htm <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Bill Gertz is a credible and respected analyst. The Indian Embassy, "intelligence" agencies, MEA should be working overtime trying to link Paksitan transferring possible nuclear technology to Syria, which in turn is a supporter of the Hezbollah. <b>Tie any Hezbollah attack on Israel directly to Pakistan. </b>

Good time for BC, KS or KK (thank you KK for all you have done!) to write an article in the WSJ, NYT. As I have done, may I also suggest residents in the USA forward the WT article to all media outlets.


Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

Bombay pauses to remember bombing victims
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sirens wailed at 6:24 p.m. — the time the first of seven bombs shook the city's commuter rail lines — followed by two minutes of silence in this proudly frenetic city of 16 million people.

Trains stopped. Cars froze at intersections in dense traffic. On sidewalks and street corners, large crowds gathered, unmoving and silent, in memory of the 207 people killed
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Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>This is war, Mr Prime Minister, not just a crime</b>
- S Gurumurthy

Last week, Jihadi terrorists blasted running trains in Mumbai, killing some 200 innocent commuters returning home and almost killed another 700, who were injured. This was on Tuesday. The next day, Wednesday, Lebanese terror outfit Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers. <b>Israel is a tiny dot on this earth while India is a huge country in land and people. See how the two countries responded to the attacks on them.</b>

By Friday, that is, within a couple of days, Israel struck back, extinguished over 50 Lebanese in air strikes, and almost destroyed Beirut airport in the next 72 hours. At stake for Israel were two Israeli soldiers, who are armed combatants, not unarmed innocents, like Mumbai commuters.

In 48 hours, wilting under Israeli attack Lebanon had begun crying before the United Nations for a ceasefire. The US President refused to calm Israel and asked Lebanon to stop cross border terror!

See, in contrast, what India, seen as an emerging super power, does when over a thousand innocents are roasted and injured on its soil by terror from across its borders.

Look at the chronology. Terrorists mass slaughter innocent commuters en masse on <b>Tuesday evening</b>. The <b>next day</b> Prime Minister swears that 'terror will not cow us down', the usual rhetoric.

<b>On Thursday</b>, he is confused as to what to do next. <b>Finally, on Friday</b> he summons enough courage and declares that the blasts were <b>engineered by "elements across the border"</b>.

He asserts that unless supported from outside, terrorists "could not hit with such effect."<b> Thus, it takes 72 hours for the Prime Minister to hint who the criminals are and who harboured them. But in just 48 hours Israel had brought Lebanon, which had harboured Hezbollah Jihadis, to its knees</b>.

Terror has attacked India hundred times and more, not for the first time. This time around, governments in Delhi and Mumbai had clear information about the terrorists who were about to strike Mumbai. They even knew which indigenous Islamic outfits were to provide logistic support. The only thing they did not know was the exact time and place of strike in Mumbai.

Thus, the Prime Minister must have known on Tuesday itself that it was a cross border terror attack. Yet, he did not say so till Friday. Why? Only he can explain. The National Security Advisor told the Indian Cabinet on Friday that it was Lashker-e-Toiba, the Pakistan-sponsored terror outfit, which bombed and snuffed out or injured over a thousand in Mumbai.

Not that the terrorists attacked from hundreds of miles away, from Islamabad, he said. And added that home grown Jihadis and a terror outfit, the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) - <b>which is certified by some seculars in India as secular</b> - had provided logistic support.

That evening the Prime Minister charged that Pakistan was involved in the terror, but three precious days were lost by then. The Pakistan Foreign Minister seized this opportunity and almost said that the blast was because the Kashmir issue was hanging without resolution!

Had the Prime Minister told the truth on Wednesday, he could not have said what he had said. And finally, the Prime Minister of this vast and powerful nation just calls off the peace talk with Pakistan.

In contrast, Israel is murdering Lebanon for capturing two Israeli combatants and crushing it to cry before the world!

But, fortunately, the Manmohan Singh's charge against Pakistan for promoting cross border terror came ahead of the proud claim of the LeT cousin, Laskher-e-Qahar, that it had carried out the strike!

<b>Secular India's debate on terror ignores that Jihad is war against infidels, not a crime under the Penal Code. The Jihadis believe that they operate under a higher law. So, normal laws are inadequate to counter the Jihadis.</b>

Special laws, even draconian ones, have to be put in place, to contain terror. Even this can do only part of the job. The other part will have to be handled by war. But shockingly - yes, it is shocking - <b>secular India feels anti-terror laws are anti-minority.</b> <b>Nothing is more anti-minority than equating, by implication, minority to terror.</b>

But secular India has convinced many among the minorities that anti-terror laws are against them!

This is what makes terror a subject of crime instead of the target of war. This sets human rights against anti-terror laws. Result, it just costs hundreds and hundreds of human lives to preserve the human rights of terrorists!

So, Mr Prime Minister, it is not a crime you are handling, but war. Pot-bellied police and over-crowded courts are not meant to handle wars of this kind. Israel understands it and so the US too sides with it. We cannot act differently with the very same Jihadis, whom Israel is handling by war methods.

Tail piece: The media adds, at the Friday Cabinet meeting, a senior, but almost senile, minister told the Cabinet that it was not Jihadis, but, RSS - yes RSS - which bombed the trains and killed the innocent commuters!

Why? Just to give a bad name to Muslims! Of course, the Prime Minister kept quiet as he does on most issues. But imagine how the Pakistan PR machine would take advantage of such frivolous charge by a senior minister.
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Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1773112.cms


Lashkar-e-Qahar warns of more blasts across India



MUMBAI: Lashkar-e-Qahar, the terrorist group that claimed responsibility for the Mumbai train bombings, warned on Tuesday that it was planning attacks against government and historic sites in India in an e-mail to a news channel.

The outfit also said it plans to provide audio and video proof that it carried out the July 11 bombings that ripped through Mumbai's packed commuter rail network and killed 207 people.

Lashkar said in the e-mail that 16 people took part in the July 11 attacks in Mumbai, and that one of them was killed.

But "all the remaining 15 mujahideens are totally safe, and celebrating the success of this mission and also preparing for the next mission," the e-mail said.

"We also request all the Muslim brothers and sisters not to go near the main historical, governmental and the monumental places of India (especially in Delhi and Mumbai) in future," the e-mail said. "Otherwise, they get hurt too."

The train bombings killed 207 people and injured hundreds more. Investigators believe the group may be a front for Lashkar-e-Taiba.




Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

<img src='http://www.hindujagruti.org/images/newsimages/simi_pamplate.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
SIMI-We enjoy killing Hindus, so keep on
Posted on 18 July, 2006
Source: Daily Sanatan Prabhat

At Madgaon, police have tightened the security after seeing the pamphlets distributed by SIMI to kill Hindus. This was informed by Shri. Pratap Singh Rane in the Assembly today. Shri. Rane was replying to the question raised by Shri. Damodar Naik, a BJP MLA from Fatorde. The pamphlets contain the matter that SIMI terrorists derive joy in killing Hindus, so continue such killings. The paper used for pamphlets had some no. related to bank accounts. It has been found that the said bank account was opened by Mahindra and Mahindra Company based in Mumbai. The name of the person handling the account has also been traced. Shri. Naik demanded that the Government should treat the matter seriously and find out the involved persons. He also stated that in Fatorda, there is tension due to those pamphlets.


Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

<b>Why we should be ashamed</b>---Ram Madhav


Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

Spineless PM tones down anti-Pak rhetoric<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"We must not allow such terrorist acts to undermine the historic opportunity for lasting peace between Pakistan and India. Instead of unsubstantiated allegations and aspersions, if the Indian side has any concrete information it should be shared with Pakistan and we would help with the investigation."
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May be its Indians bad karma, they get such type of rulers.


Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

<b>Mumbai-based firm to help blast victims' families</b> <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Panaji, July. 19 (PTI): Mumbai-based Suresh Kare-Indoco Foundation has said it would provide financial assistance to the families of those killed in recent serial blasts. "Families of the victims, who died in the blasts in Mumbai, can approach Suresh Kare-Indoco Foundation for financial assistance for their children's education. The Foundation will provide Rs 10,000 per annum towards schooling expenses of the children upto the tenth standard," Suresh Kare, promoter of the Foundation, said in a release here. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8...1212590,00.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In 2003, just before twin bomb blasts in August that killed more than 50, TIME spoke to "Umar," a SIMI operative, or Ansar ("guide"), who said his men were carrying out the attacks. The 44-year-old said: ... he and his men had no intention of ever ending their murderouscampaign. "We will continue," he told TIME. "There is no limits on our actions..<b>. Even to kill children is good — you stop the generation there, at the beginning</b>. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-19-2006

<b>CPI(M) leader suspects Hindu extremist in 7/11 blasts</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A senior CPI(M) leader on Wednesday suggested a probe to ascertain if Mumbai train blasts were set off by Hindu fundamentalists as BJP and Shiv Sena were fast losing their base in Maharashtra.
"There is a need to probe this angle," CPI(M) politburo member and West Bengal's ruling Left Front chairman Biman Bose saidin Kolkata.

Bose, who was addressing a Front rally, also demanded an inquiry to find out if the desecration of the bust of Sena supremo Bal Thackeray's wife Meenatai in Dadar earlier this month was a ploy to boost the morale of Sena workers.

"The communal party was reeling under the impact of the battle between Thackeray's son Uddhav and nephew Raj that prompted the latter to part ways with the Sena," Bose claimed.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->



Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Hauma Hamiddha - 07-19-2006

<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jul 18 2006, 02:56 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 18 2006, 02:56 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->''We were rulers here for 800 years. Inshaallah, we shall return to power here once again'', he said to loud approval by the nearly 200 assembled men.[/size][/color]
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This is a very important point to note. The Moslems seem themselves as the natural rulers of Hindustan that was conquered by the force of arms of Alla-ad-din Khalji and subsequently reconquered by Awrangzeb, their greatest heroes. They see Delhi as a capital of he Islamic world with its blatantly Islamic character with all the monuments of Agra standing on the ruins of the historic Hindu buildings and temples. The secularized Hindu populations of Mumbai and Delhi are totally blind to this Islamic vision. Importantly the west covertly still sees the Moslems as the rulers of India (Especially given that they have created a fiction that they conquered India from the Moslem Emperor).

The only solution is that Hindus learn to see this as a continuation of the national war, against the evil of Islam, that was sparked by Vir Hammir in the north, Harihara and Bukka in the South and subsequently continued by the Maharattas and Ranjit Singh the Panjabi, in which the Moslems were ultimately defeated. However, before the Hindus could complete their liberation, the West seized India from them, at point when they were exhausted after the prolonged struggle against Islam. Remember we have been fighting to crush these enemies of ours for 800 years and the job is undone.

hara hara mahAdeva has to prevail over Allah-o-Akbar and the cross of Isa nothing short of that.



Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-20-2006

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Trading terror for votes </b>
Pioneer.com
Hiranmay Karlekar
The serial blasts in Mumbai on July 11 necessitate a second look at India's response to the terrorist challenge facing it. Three elements are critical to any effort to fight the evil - political will, sound strategy and tactics and effective implementation. Of these the most important is the first without which the other two do not work. It should not only be there, but also be seen to be there.

Terrorism is generally practised by small groups whose members are sustained by a fanatical belief in their cause and ultimate success. Every successful strike and every indication of the weakening of the existing Government's will to fight them reinforces this belief and raises their morale. It is, therefore, essential to firmly sustain the impression that, however frequent and vicious their strikes, the Government will not relent. Mere words will not help. The Government must show that it knows what it needs to do and will not flinch from doing it. It must not appear that political considerations will make it pull its punches.

In this context, it is most unfortunate that the Samajwadi Party chief and Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister, Mr Mulayam Singh Yadav, should have said in Lucknow on July 13 that the Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) had no role in the earlier explosions in Ayodhya (July 5, 2005) and Varanasi (March 7, 2006), and that the ban on it could be justified only if its involvement in the Mumbai blasts could be proved. He had reportedly also stated that the Centre and not the State Government had banned the outfit. As unfortunate was the statement on the same day by the party's general secretary and Uttar Pradesh's Minister for Public Works Department, Mr Shivpal Singh Yadav, that SIMI was not a terrorist organisation and action might be taken against those of its members who might have been involved in terrorist activities.

Their remarks were made on the same day when the Anti-Terrorist Squad of Mumbai Police had rounded up around 200 persons, an overwhelming majority of them with SIMI links, for questioning in respect of the 7/11 serial explosions. Their remarks ignored this, the fact that the Supreme Court has upheld the ban on SIMI imposed in 2001, and also that investigations had revealed the involvement of its activists in the blast on the Shramjeevi Express at Jaunpur on July 28, 2005, and the serial blasts in Varanasi on March 7, 2006. These were, however, not unexpected. A couple of weeks before the Mumbai blasts, a spokesman of the Uttar Pradesh Home Department had stated that the State Government did not support the ban on SIMI and that it had informed the Centre as early as June 21, 2005, that the outfit was not active in the State and hence there was no need to ban it.

Uttar Pradesh's Principal Secretary, Home, Mr Satish Kumar Agarwal, and Director General of Police, Mr Bua Singh, had doubtless stated on July 12 that the ban on SIMI was being implemented and closely monitored in the State. They also said that the State police had raided a number of places and that no activity by SIMI was being allowed in the State. Whatever credibility their statements would otherwise have commanded was, however, undermined by Mr Mulayam Singh Yadav and Mr Shivpal Singh Yadav's claims on the following day. Even if one concedes that they were right, the contradiction between their and the State's Chief Minister and PWD Minister's statements suggested that the State's political leadership and police and administrative authorities were working at cross purposes.

Uttar Pradesh, one of the largest States of India, occupies a critically important strategic position in the country's heartland. The war against terrorism will be severely undermined if its Government does not join it wholeheartedly. Indeed, even talk of such a development is bound to boost the morale of terrorist outfits like the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba, Jaish-e-Mohammad, Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami Bangladesh and SIMI. Their leaders already seem to have been enthused by the growing impression that the United Progressive Alliance Government lacks the political will needed to fight terrorism. It began by suspending the construction of fences in stretches of the India-Bangladesh border to stanch the flow illegal migration by Bangladeshis, in the face of protests by Begum Khaleda Zia's Government. Though it resumed construction, the impression that it failed to understand the serious security threat inherent in the continued illegal migration from Bangladesh, was reinforced by its executive order seeking to nullify the Supreme Court's historic judgement on July 12, 2005, scrapping the Illegal Migrants (Determination by Tribunals) Act of 1983, which had served to hinder rather than facilitate the identification and deportation illegal Bangladeshi immigrants.

While all this contributed, the UPA Government's repeal of the Prevention of Terrorism Act put the largest question mark against its will to fight terrorism. The latter is a savage business. Fighting it requires tough measures. Canada was not squeamish about resorting to these against the separatist movement in Quebec in the 1970s, nor was Britain against the Irish Republican Army.

India can hardly do otherwise. Hence the enactment of POTA, an extraordinary law to meet an extraordinary situation. While providing a legal framework for tough action, it also made those enforcing it accountable and punishable for misusing it. Though many of its provisions have been incorporated into other laws, its repeal has become a symbol of the present Government's woolly-headed and vacillating approach to fighting terrorism.

A large section has attributed the move, as well as the Centre and some State Government's failure to act resolutely against Islamist terrorist groups using mosques and madarsas as centres of fundamentalist Islamist propaganda and recruitment of terrorists, as being part of an attempt to woo Muslim votes. This in turn is encouraging a section of Muslim leaders with terrorist links to try to use their community as a vote-bank to manipulate the country's parliamentary system to sabotage the war against terror.

Their success will hobble India's war against terrorism and severely hurt Indian Muslims by triggering a massive and violent Hindu backlash. They have, therefore, to be dealt with the utmost firmness while making earnest efforts to remove the genuine grievances of Muslims, the overwhelming majority of whom, like the overwhelming majority of India's other religious communities, are thoroughly patriotic and have done the country proud by their achievements in diverse fields. The assumption that they will resent tough action against terrorists, is a gargantuan insult to them.
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Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-20-2006

<b>Centre warns Mumbai of fresh terror attacks</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->MUMBAI: A week after the devastating train bombings, Mumbai has received a chilling official communication from the Centre — there are specific and credible intelligence reports about terrorists planning another round of bloodshed in the metropolis.

In a message to the crisis-ridden Vilasrao Deshmukh government, the Centre has <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>warned that certain places of worship, strategic installations and a busy commuter train line were in the cross-hairs of terrorists</span>
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Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-20-2006

<b>Peace process intact as India, Pak hold border talks </b>
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7598_17...00500020000.htm

Moron Singh is making it easy, he is known for his humble stupid behavior and he is showing it in full. Enjoy it.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/jul/19inter.htm
'It's an all out invasion of India'


Blast In Mumbai's -2 - Guest - 07-20-2006

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Shobori Ganguli | New Delhi
11/7 blasts: Ticked off by United States, chastened Prime Minister talks of peace ---- More than a week since terror ripped Mumbai apart, <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>India's inability to produce concrete evidence against Pakistan has rendered its attempts to trap the usual suspect rather feeble. </span>While Pakistan is widely accepted as the fountainhead of terror in the subcontinent, India has been roundly ticked off by the US for not gathering enough proof against its neighbour on the Mumbai blasts.

That Islamabad has been the gainer in this round is evident in the unequivocal praise heaped on Pakistan by the Americans for its fight against terror. This, along with a rather general "condemnation" from the G-8, instead of a decisive rap on Pakistan's knuckles, has fed the impression that India's may be a case of cry wolf after all.

Islamabad has turned the occasion to its diplomatic advantage to impress upon the international community that Pakistan is a bogey raised by the <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Indian leadership to cover up the failure of its security agencies to nab the real home-grown terrorists residing in the very heart of Mumbai</span>.

<b>A chastened Manmohan Singh on his return from St Petersburg on Tuesday</b>, therefore, said, "I have always believed the destiny of the people of South Asia are closely inter-linked," and that "Both our countries need peace and stability."

<b>This is a significant humbling since the Prime Minister's public posturing in Mumbai last Friday, where, in a rather delayed reaction</b>, he had warned Pakistan that "If the acts of terrorism are not controlled, it is exceedingly difficult for any Government to carry forward what may be called as normalisation and peace process." He had also said, "We are certain that these terror modules are instigated, inspired and supported by elements across the border."

Clearly, Manmohan Singh found no takers for this at the G-8 summit. Expressing mere "outrage" at the July 11 attack, the G-8 registered its "solidarity with the Government and the people of India," and conveyed its "deepest condolences to the victims and their families."

India's hopes of getting the G-8 to condemn Pakistan were roundly dashed when the influential world grouping simply indicated its determination to "continue the fight against terrorism by all legitimate means." While the statement did promise to bring the "perpetrators, organisers, sponsors" to book, the silence on Pakistan was stunning. Eventually the G-8 leaders only threw in their lot with India because "terrorism ... constitutes a threat to each of our country, as well as to international peace and security."

Meanwhile, in a stern rebuff, a middle-level officer in the Bush Administration suggested India should rely on hard evidence before pointing fingers. <b>"I know there's a lot of speculation out there now.... But I think we need to be led by the evidence before we start trying to draw conclusions and make policy pronouncements on it</b>," US Assistant Secretary of State Richard Boucher said. He warned that this will be the "attitude of others as well."

Negating India's claim as a Pak-sponsored terror victim, Boucher said, "The terrorists that we're fighting against have been fighting against Afghanistan, been fighting against Pakistan, been fighting against the US, been fighting against Europeans, and maybe some of them fighting against India, as well." What India really needs to take note of is Boucher's conclusion: "No country has done more to fight Al Qaeda or has lost more people in doing so than Pakistan."

Gloating over this commendation, Pakistan Foreign Minister Mahmud Kasuri said, <b>"The US, European Union and other leading countries are not so stupid as to pay public compliments if they think Pakistan is actually running (terrorist) training camps albeit not for Afghanistan but Kashmir, because in the ultimate analysis, it all gets linked."</b>

Kasuri charged that, "The unequivocal condemnation means (India) just wanted an excuse to link something to Pakistan, they wanted a peg to hang their coat on. Only a very ingenious lawyer would put that sort of interpretation."

Lack of proof against Pakistan in the Mumbai case has therefore left the Prime Minister with weak formulations phrases like the dialogue process has "suffered," and that we should "reflect on our relations with Pakistan."
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