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International Military News and Discussion - Arun_S - 01-29-2010 Military and Geoplotical forces that affect India are global in nature. Thus Indian defense also requires keeping a vigil that is beyond Indian-Subcontinent (I.e. beyond Near-Indic region, a.k.a Central Asia, China, Afganistan, Iran). This thread is to monitor developments whose flames can reach Indian-sub continent. ========================================================= This news of French testfiring their latest long range M15 missile from submarine is a milestone, in modern warfare. [url="http://www.spacewar.com/reports/France_test-fires_submarine-launched_missile_999.html"] France test-fires submarine-launched missile[/url] Quote:Paris (AFP) Jan 27, 2010 International Military News and Discussion - Arun_S - 01-29-2010 [url="http://en.rian.ru/russia/20100128/157702850.html"]Russia expects to sell no less than $7.4 bln of arms in 2010[/url] Quote:28/01/2010 [url="url:%20http://english.pravda.ru/world/asia/111368-mig29-0"]Russian MiG-29 Jets 'Attack' China in Myanmar[/url] Quote:24.12.2009Russia will deliver 20 MiG-29 fighter jets to the Air Force of Myanmar (Burma). The deal is evaluated at nearly $600 million. Burma preferred Russiaââ¬â¢s renowned jets to China, although its J-10 and FC-1 fighters are cheaper. International Military News and Discussion - Arun_S - 01-29-2010 Indian FGFA [url="http://english.pravda.ru/russia/economics/28-01-2010/111914-fifth_generation-0"]Russia To Test Stealthy Fifth Generation Sukhoi T-50 Fighter Jet[/url] Quote: 28.01.2010 Russian fifth generation aircraft prepares for its maiden flight. The test flight will reportedly take place on January 28 or January 29 at the air base in the city of Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Interfax news agency reports. International Military News and Discussion - Guest - 01-29-2010 PAK-FA FGFA First Flight [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp0yd6no7B4&feature=player_embedded[/media] Sukhoi Press Release Sukhoi LAUNCHES Flight tests Prospective COMPLEX Frontal Aviation (PAK FA) Moscow, January 29. Today in Komsomolsk - on - Amur hosted the first flight of an experienced aviation complex of the fifth generation. The plane was piloted honored test pilot Sergei Bogdan Russia. Prototype PAK FA spent 47 minutes in the air and landed on the runway of the factory airfield. The flight was successful, in full accordance with the flight plan. "During the flight we had a primary assessment of controllability of the aircraft, engine and major systems, the aircraft made a full-time cleaning and landing gear. The aircraft proved itself well in all phases of our intended flight program. They easily and comfortably manage ", - said Sergey Bogdan. Compared with previous generations of fighters, PAK FA has several unique features, combining the functions of attack aircraft and fighter. Fifth generation fighter aircraft equipped with a fundamentally new avionics, the integrating function of e-pilot, and promising radar with a phased antenna array. This significantly reduces the load on the pilot and allows you to concentrate on the implementation of tactical tasks. On-board equipment of a new aircraft enables the exchange of data in real time as a land-management systems, and within the aviation group. The use of composite materials and innovative technology, aerodynamic design aircraft, measures to reduce the visibility of the engine provides unprecedented low level of radar, optical and infrared visibility.This allows you to significantly improve the combat effectiveness in the work, both by air and ground targets, at any time of day, in simple and adverse weather conditions. "Today we started a program of flight tests of fifth generation fighter aircraft. This is a great success of Russia's science and engineering thought. For this achievement is worth more than a hundred co-operatives allied enterprises, our strategic partners. PAK FA program displays Russia's aircraft manufacturing and related industries on a qualitatively new technological level. These planes, along with modernized aviation system of the fourth generation will determine the potential of Russian military aircraft in the coming decades. The plans of the Company "Sukhoi" is included and further development of the Program PAK FA, on which we will work with Indian partners. I am confident that our joint project will surpass the Western counterparts by the criterion of cost-effectiveness and will not only strengthen the defensive power of the Air Force of Russia and India, but will take its place in the world market ", - said General Director of JSC" Sukhoi "Mikhail Pogosyan, Commenting on the start of flight testing. Summary of fifth generation fighter aircraft. Compared with previous generations of fighters, the fifth generation has several unique features, combining the functions of attack aircraft and fighter. Fifth generation fighter aircraft equipped with a fundamentally new avionics, the integrating function of the e-pilot, and promising radar with a phased antenna array. This significantly reduces the load on the pilot and allows you to concentrate on the implementation of tactical tasks. On-board equipment of a new aircraft enables the exchange of data in real time as a land-management systems, and within the aviation group. The use of composite materials and innovative technology, aerodynamic design aircraft, measures to reduce the visibility of the engine provides unprecedented low level of radar, optical and infrared visibility. This allows you to significantly improve the combat effectiveness in the work, both by air and ground targets, at any time of day, in simple and adverse weather conditions. Low visibility, aircraft performance and maneuverability allow to minimize the threat to the pilot, at the expense of the fifth generation fighter aircraft have increased survivability in difficult combat conditions, with the active counter air defense systems. Increased radius of combat use leads to greater autonomy of the fifth generation fighter aircraft in the implementation of the planned combat missions. Fifth generation fighter aircraft will complement the fleet of modernized aircraft complexes of the fourth generation, as well as to replace the aging fleet of combat aircraft. In the long term availability of the fifth generation aircraft in service will allow customers to optimize and structure of the park, due to repeated increase combat effectiveness and capacity to address a broader range of tasks with a single plane. Program to create long-term aviation system of the fifth generation is a technological breakthrough in the domestic aircraft industry, which allows to maintain a stable leading position of Russia on the international market of combat aircraft. In the world aviation there is a unique analogue of fifth generation fighter aircraft - is the F-35, a product of Lockheed Martin. The plans of the Company "Sukhoi" is the further development of the Program to create a fifth generation fighter aircraft and the creation of modification of aircraft with Indian partners. The joint project will surpass the Western equivalent to the criterion of cost-effectiveness and will not only strengthen the defensive power of the Air Force of Russia and India, but will take a worthy place in the world market International Military News and Discussion - Guest - 01-29-2010 From Sukhoi ( via Yuri ) ![]() ![]() ![]() International Military News and Discussion - Guest - 01-29-2010 ![]() ![]() ![]() International Military News and Discussion - Guest - 01-29-2010 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XqwDEU0fus&feature=player_embedded#[/media] International Military News and Discussion - Guest - 01-29-2010 ![]() International Military News and Discussion - Guest - 01-29-2010 http://video.yandex.ru/users/russianarms/view/3 International Military News and Discussion - Guest - 01-29-2010 I found this analysis by ubiquitous08 from secretproject link First impressions....A Ray tracing approach to stealth not having a supercomputer and RCS prediction programmes at hand... Clearly a VLO design. Shaping appears robust in X band, L band and probably S band in front and side quaters. Facets are large in the order of over 1 meter which satisfy these frequencies. In the VHF band side on its flat profile should give it very good RCS versus F 22 / F 35 dominated by large if canted tails. Rear quadrant RCs appears disappointing with a clear emphasis on maneouvrability over YF 23 style aft sector facets to which the design clearly has been influenced. Cockpit canopy bow a disappointment but canted. Planform has more lobes than classic 4 lobe YF 23 layout but Lerxes will generate greater maneouvrability at high AOA and ability to dynamically control direction of lerx airflow clearly an innovation intended to work with 3d nozzles and total vehicle management / control surface scheduling system (a technology pioneered in the preceding rival MFI project). Planform: Clearly a hybrid between the Yf 22 and the Yf 23 this design appears to combine the best features of both, much as the Su 27 Flanker incorporated the best lessons of the teen generation that preceded it. Wing planform appears F 22 optimised for supercruise but with all moving butterfly tails an attempt to wring out maximum control authority from tails deliberately sized to reduce supercruise drag and side RCS spikes much as the Northrop Grumman McDonnell Douglas JSF contender utilised butterfly tails to reduce weight and reduce tail size increasing range. Overall crossection appears to be YF 23 influenced to presumably take a advantage of volume and RCS advantages inherent to a flatted diamond (in crossection) design. Forward fuselage appears to blend F35 cockpit canopy integration with the Yf 23 moldline presumably to maximise visibility from the upper half of the diamond crossection unlike the F 22 and Yf 23 that seated canopy moldlines far further up. Operational Factors: Clearly the Russians sought the range and volumetric advantages inherent of the Northrop design but without the limitations of this design in maneouvrability. Given the size and reputed loadout of 10 missiles, a Yf 23 design would be a logical choice. Likewise in regards to the nose and tail, the T 50 can be seen as an "2010 update" on the YF 23 concept integrating 3D nozzles for maneouvrability at the expense of aft sector RCS, a similar approach to that taken by the F 35 with its circular nozzles (driven by Stovl and weight saving factors). As such like the F 35 a small narrow lobe in the aft RCS sector may exist. Note in the much lauded VHF band this may even be true of the F 22. Other examples of this "update" include some very F 35 reminiscent shaping solutions in the front assembly and a willingness to try the umproven small tail concept proposed by McDonnell Douglas Grumman Northrop in their JSF contender and later X 36 demonstrator. Unwilling to leave the concept of supermaneuvrability we see some curious nods to Russian obsession with post stall combat; namely a moveable lerx lip above the intakes and integration of 3 d nozzles on a 5th generation design, a first. Conclusion: A very Russian response to the requirements of range, large loadouts and low RCS performance leveraging the many RCS solutions proposed and / or utilised by the U.S. International Military News and Discussion - Guest - 01-29-2010 More Photo here , quite good ones http://pilot.strizhi.info/2010/01/29/7498 http://pilot.strizhi.info/2010/01/28/7484 International Military News and Discussion - Guest - 01-29-2010 [size="5"]Full Flight Video of PAK-FA[/size] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S67zfmEqGxQ[/media] International Military News and Discussion - Arun_S - 01-30-2010 Thanks Austin. I have lots of technical analysis that I will shortly share with graphics. It is an important day for India too because of Indian Air Force "Joint Venture" in this aircraft project, and thus it will start to be in Indian Inventory while local SK-30MKI production ramps up. This plane is smaller than SU-30 MKI, but mid-air refueling will rake care of its long range, while internal weapons payload and still considerable internal fuel in its thick wing roots make it a very versatile role aircraft. Looking at the design its RCS will be very small, very comparable to US JSF/Raptor. Some good analysis is out there, one in particular that I value is: [url="http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/community/persona/index.jsp?newspaperUserId=152392&plckUserId=152392"] [/url] [url="http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a021e786e-04be-426b-ad32-dcbb54b90d00&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest"] link[/url] : [url="http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a021e786e-04be-426b-ad32-dcbb54b90d00&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest"]T-50: A Preliminary Analysis[/url] by [url="http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/community/persona/index.jsp?newspaperUserId=152392&plckUserId=152392"]Bill Sweetman[/url] at 1/29/2010 10:07 AM CST Quote:Posted by [url="http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/community/persona/index.jsp?newspaperUserId=152392&plckUserId=152392"]Bill Sweetman[/url] at 1/29/2010 10:07 AM CST [size="2"] International Military News and Discussion - Guest - 01-30-2010 ![]() ![]() International Military News and Discussion - Arun_S - 01-30-2010 Thanks Austin, I was planning to use this image for extensive dissection to show the meaning of various features. IMHO this is amongst the most useful image in analyzing PAKFA. If readers pay attention there is a treasure trove of analytical intelligence here . ![]() In particular the very large body space around the engine and extending out from engine, before the thinner wing emanates from it. The large body space is where the weapons will be stowed, and also one that plays significant a role in body lift. the leading edge wing roots is boxy thick, just like Su-30MKI that gives it fuel storage space for long endurance and also preserves cross sectional shape necessary to minimize supersonic compression drag. IMHO data link will be using AESA on its fuselage below cockpit or tail fin. Most likely it will be fused into the side looking AESA radar itself (as many suspect JSF has in its side looking AESA). =============== Edited to add additional observations. International Military News and Discussion - Arun_S - 01-30-2010 As for frontal radar signature due to engine, I am not worried about engine inlet shielding. There are way to reduce that signature without taking recourse of S shape bent air pipe. International Military News and Discussion - Arun_S - 01-30-2010 The leading edge slats was essential for short landing performance. Even LCA has that design for the same purpose. Small tail fin size due to thrust vectoring engine is really cute. I think they would have had lot of heart ache in decisions to go for separate elevator and tail plane, instead of a canted elevon. Thrust vectoring is all the more necessary because of the very long compound delta wing and lifting body design. ![]() International Military News and Discussion - Arun_S - 01-31-2010 BTW looking at relative size of chase plane and depeth of view, this plane is smaller than SK30 MKI, my guess is ~15% smaller in linear size. (I.e. ~35% Smaller in volume). International Military News and Discussion - Arun_S - 01-31-2010 This is one of the most informative/informed assessment of PAKFA capability by Iggor (Igor Djadan) ![]() [url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mDvQ8xYRdSI/S2QDM-CrWRI/AAAAAAAAA4A/pCbKacQ3d1s/s1600-h/pak-fa+28.08.2009.jpg"]Click to Zoom in PAKFA diagrams[/url] The few observations on this Igorr diagram :
Overall a very good paper, given that this drawing is dated August 2009, its a master piece ( not to mention exact airframe shape of teh real aircraft), not to mention it comes from a person who has built credibelity and respect from his previous work and postings. International Military News and Discussion - Arun_S - 01-31-2010 Another informative article by Igorr [url="http://igorrgroup.blogspot.com/2009/10/outlines-of-pak-fa.html"]Outlines of PAK FA [/url] Quote:[size="2"]Thursday, October 22, 2009[/size] [url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mDvQ8xYRdSI/SuCtobZR6tI/AAAAAAAAAjQ/miMq1Iv63cI/s1600-h/8f9327e3af86.jpg"] ![]() Since the article of Alexander Pachkov ('Paralay') in Nov, 2009 issue of Russan-language 'Popular Mechanic' journal has produced a great interest, I translated the short essential of this text. Paralay is the editor of the popular site 'Stealth Machines'. The article is about PAK FA/FGFA program. Since I cannot check the Paralay's sources out, the question of information reliability is up to a reader. The outlines of his article: 1) Can hope for 10-15% PAKFA advantage over F-22 due to two decades of tech. development. 2) F-22 detects Su35 from the distance of 150-180 km but can open fire from 110 km, while becomes visible for Su-35's radar by itself and on R-77 range of attack. 3) OLS-35 probably detects Raptor on 100 km distance. 4) PAKFA's AESA radar has probably 1526 modules with overall power 18 KWt. Range for a big air target ââ¬â 400. TWS/A = 60/16. 5) Active antennas in the wings and tail are probable. 6) OLS with 360 deg. 7) Backward attacking missiles. 8) Has up to 12 Air-to-air missiles (if compact) in internal placement. 9) Two internal bays for WLRAAMs and LRAAMs up to 700 kg each. + 2 bays for short range missiles. 10) While Raptor can have up to 8 missiles in the internal bays. 11) WLRAAM 'Izdelie 810' is MiG-31 R-33 derivative. 400 km. 12) LRAAM 'Izdelie-180PD' is air-breath R-77 derivative. 250 km. 13) 'Izdelie-180' ââ¬â solid-fuel R-77 derivative 110-140 km. With active and passive radar, homing on jammer. 14) Short range AAM ââ¬â 'Izdelie-300' or K-MD IR matrix, double range of homing. 15) Kh-58UShKE 16) Kh-35 17) 500 kg guided and unguided bombs and cassette munition. 18) Intrafuselage cathapults UVKU-50L ââ¬â up to 300 kg, UVKU-50U ââ¬â up to 700 kg. 19) Internal bays total weight 2.000 kg 20) With + external hardpoints ââ¬â 6.000 kg. 21) GSh-30 30 mm autocannon. 22) According to the plans ââ¬â 430 planes must be built for RuAF. 23) Probably price $80 mil. 24) Will replace 339 Su-27 and 300 MiG-31 [url="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mDvQ8xYRdSI/SuCt8to4jAI/AAAAAAAAAjg/vmDlYS7xCxU/s1600-h/52559c38653a.jpg"] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |