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Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - nandanar - 01-28-2010 have a look at this- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuBlHHqfIuY&feature=player_embedded see what sohail tanvir says at 4:20 no indian news channel will report this Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - Guest - 01-28-2010 Those who want Pakistani player in IPL should move to Pakistan and play there or do natak baji in that country, we will not miss them. Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - dhu - 01-31-2010 Quote:Non-State Action & the Indian Patriotic League Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - Guest - 01-31-2010 What was the "real" reason Pakistan players were not picked up? If GoI did not create Visa issues, why would IPL ignore them? Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - Guest - 01-31-2010 Quote:Shah Rukh deserves Nishaan-E-Pakistan: Bal Thackeray Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - Guest - 03-06-2010 [size="6"]Aman ki Nirasha tidbits[/size] In 2004, as the first renewed signs of terrorism started affecting France - the French reacted by putting the entire 40,000 strong Pakistani community under the scanner: "France wary of its Pakistani community - PARIS, Aug 8 (AFP) - The Pakistani community in France and elsewhere in Europe is now, more than ever, being watched by intelligence services concerned about its role as a breeding ground for Islamic extremism that could give rise to attacks like those seen in London last month, French experts say. The daily Le Figaro said....the report by the DCRG intelligence agency also highlighted the need to closely observe France's 40,000-strong Pakistani community with a view to preventing an attack on French soil". Please note that the French did not worry about fake distinctions between extremists and ordinary Pakistanis. The Americans recently did the same - they now mete out special pat-downs, luggage checks and security checks for Pakistanis (and visitors from 13 other countries). Why did the French and Americans not make distinctions between ordinary Pakistanis and terrorists? Perhaps, just perhaps, because these countries do not think that it is possible to make such a distinction. On the other hand, we Indians, who have been constantly at the receiving end of deadly terrorism, sponsored and largely supported by Pakistani society and state - feel the need to flagellate ourselves with "we are the same onlee, they are just like us - only the right wingers cause problems," and other such forms of politically correct nonsense. But is there any real asha for aman? While we needlessly open up money-making opportunities for Pakistani businessmen, terrorists and artists in the misplaced hope of Aman - Pakistanis have been responding with gusto with what they do well: First, let's take the Sohail Tanveer example - and the non-reaction to it, at least. As far as we know, neither has the Pakistan Cricket Board reacted to Sohail's vulgar display of bigotry - nor has their media reacted to this racially tinged journalism. But, first the story in the words of Tapan Joshi of the Ahmedabad Mirror: "To give you an example, three highly reputed Pakistanis vented vitriolic religious hatred on air describing India post IPL snub. In a TV show hosted by a lady named Farah - Pakistan's highest paid anchor - the guests were paceman Sohail Tanvir and a journalist named Zahid Farooq Malik. Now, Tanvir became famous, and rich, only after his exploits for Rajasthan Royals in the first edition of the IPL. And here he was, saying on air, "Hinduon ki zahaniyat hi aisi hai (the Hindu nature is like that only)" while describing the IPL snub. So here's a cricketer who's driving a car and living in a house bought out of money he earned from IPL I, and he's unabashedly bringing in religion in the whole issue. The journalist sitting next to Tanvir then calls Indians `baniyas' and goes on to say, `Unki bagal mein chhuri hain aur muh par Ram Ram' even as Farah smiled demurely. The discussion then takes a ridiculous course, with the journalist saying 'Hindus' - not Indians - are responsible for Pakistan not hosting matches in 2011 World Cup.' As mentioned - there was very little condemnation of this event. Can you imagine an Indian cricketer making such inane remarks about all Muslims and getting away with it? BCCI and the media would have forced him out - and rightfully so. If you think this is a solitary example of bad behavior - I'll be happy to walk you through the example of Lahore lawyers threatening to burn anyone who fights the case of a 12-year-old Christian girl murdered by the ex-head of the Bar association. And the mainstream media in Pakistan accepts this as regular behaviour. The rub is not that such criminal behaviour happens - whether that of Sohail Tanveer or that against the 12-year-old Christian girl (it happens in all countries) - but that the entire country, its institutions and its media find nothing wrong with it. So, what expectations did we Indians have for this Aman Ki Asha? Did we expect that Pakistanis would reduce terrorism against India? Or did we expect peace? Pakistanis clearly do not seem to have the same expectations. http://sify.com/news/This-is-Radio-Pakistan-from-New-Delhi-imagegallery-Features-kcxxK4bdebb.html Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - Guest - 03-06-2010 [size="6"]'This is Radio Pakistan from New Delhi'[/size] Perhaps one of the most popular TV shows in Pakistan features Zaid Hamid, a rabid India-baiter. His favourite dream, according to his own words: 'Inshallah one day you will hear this... This is Radio Pakistan from New Delhi.' The popularity of this show and this media-sponsored vision of India-Pakistani relations can be judged online as well as from the responses to the show - just do a Google - you'll get my point. But, this stated goal of the invasion of India is not new or different - Hafeez Sayeed of the LeT has articulated the same wet dream of flying the Pakistani flag on Red Fort. The broader theme of using terrorists against India, has been used by well known Pakistani media and analysts, fairly regularly. More recently - after more than a month of this 'Aman Ki Aasha' jamboree - the Pakistanis announced their version of a solidarity event. The Jamaat-ud-Dawaa, the front group of the LeT, held a public conference of 12 uber-terrorist groups in Muzaffarabad that specialize in killing Indian civilians. 'According to Pakistani media reports, JuD chief Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, Hizbul Mujahideen commander Syed Salahuddin, Jamaat leader Abdul Rehman Makki and former ISI chief Hamid Gul attended the terror meet. At least 12 terror groups participated, according to reports from Pakistan. The militants' leaders reportedly agreed to support the jihadi cause in Kashmir. They also concluded that any dialogue with the Indian government on Kashmir issue would be futile and jihad is the only option left to attain freedom'. (Asian Tribune, February 5) So, the perpetrators of 26/11 were openly getting together within Pakistani territory and declaring war on India and Indians - all in the middle of 'Aman Ki Aasha' fest that we were perpetrating primarily on ourselves. Now if you think that the people of Pakistan had nothing to do with this well-attended terrorist convention, let's look at some facts: 'Why should we worry about India?' former ISI chief Hamid Gul asked Times Now, admitting the Pakistani Government was 'aware of the conference', but of course did nothing to stop or even condemn it. 'If India feels unhappy about it, let them. It's high time that India feels unhappy,' he declared. http://sify.com/news/This-is-Radio-Pakistan-from-New-Delhi-imagegallery-Features-kcxxK4bdebb.html Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - Bharatvarsh2 - 03-06-2010 Quote:The journalist sitting next to Tanvir then calls Indians `baniyas' and goes on to say, `Unki bagal mein chhuri hain aur muh par Ram Ram' even as Farah smiled demurely. And that is the reality people like Ketan Shah try to wish away. No matter how much they try to win certificates of tolerance from the commies & assorted drohi's by talking of some vague secular Indian nationalism the Pakis know better and in their minds India = Hindu. Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - Guest - 03-07-2010 [size="6"]Jamhuryat Islami Pakistan[/size] " Pakistan has everything that gives you an international migraine. It has nuclear weapons, it has terrorism, extremists... " Madeline Albright, Oct. 2008 " Let me be very clear. Today, virtually every major terrorist threat that my agency is aware of has threads back to the tribal areas " Michael Hayden, Director, CIA " Afghan Taliban and pro-Taliban groups in Pakistan have links to the increasingly active core-structure of Al Qaeda that is currently based in the Pashtun tribal areas in western Pakistan. " Terrorism Situation and Trend Report-2008 by Europol " Unfortunately, our recognition in the comity of nations today is only as a ô breeding ground ô for religious extremism and militancy and as a country afflicted with a culture of violence and sectarianism. " Shamshad Ahmed, ex-Foreign Secretary, Pakistan " All terrorist networks have safe haven in Pakistan - US Defence secretary Robert Gates, " Press Trust of India Mar 2, 2009 " Why is it that all terrorist plots ââ¬â from the Sept. 11 attacks, to Madrid, to London, to Mumbai ââ¬â seem to have roots in Islamabad? " Ms. Benazir Bhutto, Washington Post " We all know the epicentre of terrorism in the world today is Pakistan. The world community has to come to grips with this harsh reality.ââ¬Â Prime Minister Manmohan Singh " ...if Islamabad is ââ¬Ëunable or unwillingââ¬â¢ to take militants out, then the US should go after the targets into Pakistan. " Barack Obama, Sep. 2008 75 per cent of terrorist plots investigated by Britain have links to Pakistan - Gordan Brown (Dailymail.co.UK 15 DEC 2008) Pakistanôs new name is Beggistan National animal: woman National sport: terrorism Jinnahôs new name: Beggar-e-Azam Extra curricular activities: crying "Islam is In danger " Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - rcscwc - 03-10-2010 [quote name='Swamy G' date='31 January 2010 - 08:56 AM' timestamp='1264907885' post='103815'] What was the "real" reason Pakistan players were not picked up? If GoI did not create Visa issues, why would IPL ignore them? [/quote] It is their own doing, kartoot. In IPL-2 Pak players were selected, but they were not allowed to play by their govt. They became an unreliable bunch, and the teams were reluctant to pick them due to this. Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - Capt M Kumar - 04-21-2010 Then it was felt that since a strong politician like Rane had mooted the concept, it will see through, however, a final order for providing tax on IPL matches was not taken since the minutes of the cabinet meeting were not confirmed. ââ¬Ëââ¬ËWe felt that Rane will not succumb to NCPââ¬â¢s pressure, however it appears that the proposal was abandoned for obvious political reasons,ââ¬â¢Ã¢â¬â¢ he said. Leader of opposition Eknath Khadse came down heavily on the government for its failure to levy entertainment tax on IPL. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Tax-waiver-on-IPL-ties-costs-Maha-Rs-500-crore/articleshow/5838057.cms Pakistan, IPL and Hindus - Guest - 04-26-2010 Modi is sacked by BCCI. It means Pawar is saving himself and underworld. |