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Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-22-2007

The Hindu 22nd Jan carries a small news item "Award for scientist' -- <!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->HYDERABAD:: K. Thangaraj, a scientist of yhe Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB), has recieved the first major UK-India Education and Research Initiative (UKIERI) award, which carries a research grant of Rs 2'5 crores. The award was presented on January 18th to Dr.Thangaraj and his collaborators Dr.Mart Mirozon Lahr and Dr.Toomas Kivisild of Cambridge University for a four year collaborative project, which involves genetic analysis of various populations in India. --Special correspondent<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Isnt this same folk who are pushing on with Aryan tourist Theories?

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-22-2007

Impressions from Kashmir war zone
Indian troops have been fighting an insurgency by Islamic militants in Indian-administered Kashmir since 1989. Here, a young Indian soldier who has just been stationed there reflects on the sadness of war.
The soldier wished to remain anonymous. His account first appeared on the BBC Urdu service website.

must be a BBC or a Pakistani soldier for sure.

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-22-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Isnt this same folk who are pushing on with Aryan tourist Theories?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, they are promoting Tamil are different race. Indian tribals and Tamil are from same race. They did study based on caste.

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-23-2007

From BBC
India stops Jade perfume bottles
A plant in India which makes perfume bottles endorsed by British television star Jade Goody has <b>stopped production following the Big Brother racism row</b>.
The BBC's Sanjoy Majumder in Delhi says the factory <b>may want to distance itself from her because of fears that her comments might invite a backlash</b>.

And now Mid-day's version
Jade's perfume bottles made in India
Manufactured by a Mumbai-based Indian firm Pragati Glass, the attractive bottles are crafted at Bharuch in Gujarat and exported to Bob Coleman, the company, which packages ‘Shh’. Each bottle is sold at about 25 pounds (Rs 1750) for 100 ml.
Though Hassan says that he is happy that Big Brother participant Goody’s Shh has been withdrawn from the market.
<b>“When it comes to the prestige of the country, business has to definitely come second. We however won’t stop exporting bottles used by ‘Shh’ since our direct client is Bob Coleman (the perfumer),” says Hassan</b>.
Pragati <b>supplies bottles for four perfume brands</b> including ‘eau de parfum’ — Kylie (after Kylie Minogue).

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Bharatvarsh - 01-23-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Club fight as Goody evicted

Crime Reporter
January 22, 2007

POLICE had to stop a race riot at a club where Jade Goody’s eviction from the Celebrity Big Brother House was being shown on TV.

Dozens of Indians and whites clashed over the racist bullying of Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty. Bottles and chairs were thrown at Club Tamingo in Kingsbury, North West London.

Trouble had flared after one Indian used a PA system to taunt “white trash” clubbers. He had also shouted: “This is for Shilpa Shetty. It’s whites against Asians.”

A woman suffered a suspected broken arm and Colin Abrey, 59, landlord of the next door pub, suffered cuts to his ear after he had a chair smashed over his head. He said: “It’s a miracle no one was killed.”,,11049-2007030465,00.html<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Interestingly it's not Asians this time eh, only "Indians".

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Bharatvarsh - 01-24-2007

see who get's the blame for the Bangalore violence:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->On January 19 evening, when people marching to a rally, organised by Congress leader C.K. Jaffer Sharief, to protest against Saddam Hussein’s execution, pulled down advertisements for a Virat Hindu rally in the Shivajinagar area, the first clashes occurred. The police then had nearly 48 hours to prepare for the three Virat Hindu rallies in east, north and south Bangalore, organised on January 21 by the Sangh Parivar. That one of the rallies would be held in a zone where the wounds of violence were fresh and there could be retaliation when another group of people march through the sensitive areas was obvious.

Bangalore’s Police Commissioner N. Achutha Rao argues that it was because the organisers of the Virat Hindu Samajothsava turned down the suggestion that the rally be cancelled in the eastern part of the city that the situation got out of hand. The police commissioner’s remarks indicate a sense of police hesitancy under the present BJP-JD(S) dispensation to nip communally fraught situations in the bud. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
huh, so Hindus are supposed to cancel their rallies planned months ago to please the master race, if they don't then the gov't should take away their rights like a fascist gov't and nip "communal" situations in the bud.

By the same token the very presence of Muslims in India would cause violence is obvious I can argue as the wounds of partition are still here with us, would that be ok then?

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Bharatvarsh - 01-25-2007

cnn-ibn is continuing it's propaganda now with another discussion on "State of the Religion" where it's being said that Jains/Gujjus don't rent their flats to Muslims or xtians, I gathered this info online, anyone here catch the discussion?

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-25-2007

Jains (and several Hindu) Gujaratis dont rent their flats to non-vegetarians, and that can be understood why.

A muslim or christian is almost never a vegetarian.

What are these "Nothing But the Truth" people saying?

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-25-2007

It is mainly to do with vegetarianism but the p-sec media will hide this fact to suit their own agends. Even in Gujarat where lots of people are vegetarian, it is like that.

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-25-2007

Radhasawami followers in UP, don't rent house to people who eat onion or Garlic.

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-25-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->cnn-ibn is continuing it's propaganda now with another discussion on "State of the Religion" where it's being said that Jains/Gujjus don't rent their flats to Muslims or xtians<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Jains (and several Hindu) Gujaratis dont rent their flats to non-vegetarians, and that can be understood why.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Some on-line Indian magazine about Indian stars once had a bit about a Lara Dutta (this was where I first heard of her; for those who know even less than me, apparently she's now the miss world or something). The article was about how perhaps LD converted to christianity to be allowed to buy a luxury apartment that was part of a christian-only complex. The same text then quoted LD herself denying the conversion-spin on her purchase: she had always been catholic.
Question is: Why don't the CNN-IBN-fraudsters look into why Lara Dutta lives in a christos-only apartment, part of a christos-only apartment-complex. Why don't they whine on about her 'unsecularism'? LD must be famous as a miss world - her 'communalism' should make better news IMO.
<b>EDIT:</b> See for instance
'Only Christian residents permitted in Mumbai apartment building'

Christos don't have strict food habits like Jains and the vegetarian Hindus, so why the exclusivism of christos-only buildings? The answer is simple of course, but let's leave it to CNN-IBN to explore it for themselves in their next update. Not that they will. Being a christoterrorist lying network, their only interest is to malign the Dharmic religions. But perhaps they might go after catholic LD, seeing as how CNN-IBN is baptist, isn't it? And baptists hate catholics after all.

And why isn't the same source of christo-misinformation referring to the christos-only villages springing up everywhere in India and terrorising the local Hindus away to turn them into 100% christo villages?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In Arunachal Pradesh where proselytizing and conversion are illegal, Christians claim whole villages and put up signboards that say “Non-Christians Not Allowed” at their entrances.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And what about 'Nagaland-for-Christ'? Doesn't that count? Doesn't that topic at least deserve a whole month of exclusive coverage, showing christianity for what it truly is?

Christoterrorists do all kinds of genocidal terrorism in India and other non-christian countries, and then they have the nerve to cast aspersions hinting at 'unsecularism' about the local non-christian majority population, especially when the explanation is as simple as strict food habits.

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-25-2007

Huskyji, forget the living, they don't even spare the dead; these guys have separate burial grounds within their own and they have audacity to point fingers at others !!
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->On the other hand, there is evidence that the church in India discriminates against Dalit Christians; in Tamil Nadu, for instance, there is evidence that there are separate pews for Dalits, a separate chalice for Holy Communion and separate burial grounds. (New Indian Express, April 14, 2003)
Heal yourself first, your Holiness

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Bharatvarsh - 01-26-2007

Modi's investment claims fail to match reality
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In 2003, Modi announced the arrival of investments worth Rs 66,000 crore. Only Rs 18,000 crore of it came in.

Again in 2005, he announced investments worth Rs 1,07,000 crore. And only Rs 10,000 crore finally made it.

Ask the state government officials for a reality check, they deny a critique on camera.

"I will not go into the figures as such, but what we are aiming at is Gujarat should be known all over the world and that has been happening," said Bhagyesh Jha, MD, IndexTb, Government of Gujarat.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But Pioneer quotes the same guy as saying:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The first Vibrant Gujarat Summit (2003) had seen MoUs worth Rs 68,000 crore being signed. The second summit, in 2005, drew Rs 106,000 crore. These weren't empty promises. As Bhagyesh Jha, managing director, iNDEXTb, the Industrial Extension Bureau that is the business facilitation arm of the Gujarat government, stressed, 82.4 per cent of the 2003 investment announcements and 83.1 per cent of the 2005 proposals had been realised, and the projects were under implementation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I guess we know who is lying.

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Bharatvarsh - 01-27-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Gujarat's Guru Critics be damned, Modi has placed himself as the global Hindu leader, protector of Gujarat

Saba Naqvi Bhaumik

Think Gujarat, think Muslim genocide. Think Narendra Modi think, Hindu hardman. But there is something beyond Hindu-Muslim that has been happening in Gujarat over the five years of Modi rule. In fact, currently Muslims are not really an issue in the mind of the majority population. And in the beginning of a year that will end with an assembly election in the state, the man once cornered by national and international outrage is busy transforming himself into the global Hindu leader, friend of industrialists, protector of Gujarat. He has emerged as something of a colossus in the state, a fascist monster perhaps for the minority, but a hero for many.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
huh so a few hundred Muslims killed out of millions is genocide despite the majority still living in Gujarat?

But we never hear articles begin with "Think Kashmir, think Hindu genocide" even though it is virtually a genocide of an entire community (Kashmiri Pandits) who have been driven out enmasse from the valley.

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Bharatvarsh - 01-28-2007

Seems like Mehta is suffering from constipation because of Modi's success:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dangling Modifier 

By what yardstick should we judge Narendra Modi? For some months at Outlook we've been debating precisely how to cover the much-maligned and much-hailed Gujarat CM. Cover him we must since even his numerous detractors concede that he has succeeded in making Gujarat one of the most attractive states for foreign and Indian capital. Statistics confirm the Dream Gujarat story. No point disputing it.

Modern-day journalism occasionally throws up a curious challenge. It requires publications to present a balanced and holistic portrait of a public figure they unreservedly abhor. I am giving away no secrets when I reveal that for some years Mr Modi has been Villain No. 1 for our journal. Therefore, when we hear reports of the "good work" he is allegedly doing we have tended to discount them, reminding ourselves that he is also a "monster". The question is: how long can we live in a state of denial? Without whitewashing his past sins, can we present him as he is perceived today?

I have had the opportunity of meeting and talking to Mr Modi. He is a charming and engaging person with a razor-sharp tongue. However, there is no mistaking his chilling ruthlessness. Whether he is intrinsically communal or tactically so is an issue to which I have no clear answer. All I can say is that he has a sinister aspect. You don't want to unnecessarily tangle with him. The massacres Narendra Modi organised need no elaboration. Not even the fact that at the recent Vibrant Gujarat meet he collected 56 billion dollars worth of investments or the expansive kudos he received from top industrialists can atone for the terror he unleashed in 2002. When we praise this "dynamic visionary" we should remember who he is—and then praise him.

Having said that, I congratulate Mr Modi for the strides Gujarat has made under his stewardship.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-29-2007

<b>Blackstone to invest in Eenadu group</b>

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 01-29-2007

Centre consulted law ministry before picking Homi Major
Rajat Pandit & Akshaya Mukul
With fighter pilots being the 'brahmins' in IAF, with even transport and helicopter pilots of the flying branch enjoying a slightly lower status, there is a school of thought that only someone who himself has flown combat jets and understands the complexities of offensive operations should command the technology-intensive force.

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Bharatvarsh - 01-30-2007

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The ULFA: Assam's Hindu terrorists
Jan 27, 2007 - 8:12:39 AM

By Amulya Ganguli, [RxPG] India has had the misfortune of experiencing Sikh, Muslim and Hindu terrorism. The Sikh insurgency, inspired by the concept of an independent Khalistan, has died down after a decade of violence in the 80s. Muslim terrorism, too, is now a little less threatening than before as Pakistan is coming under pressure from the US to reduce its so-called moral, political and diplomatic support to the 'freedom fighters' in Jammu and Kashmir.

Hindu terrorism, however, reappeared in a virulent form in Assam recently when more than 60 migrant labourers from Bihar were killed by the United Liberation Front of Asom - militants. All the three insurgencies have enjoyed the covert support of Pakistan and Bangladesh. But there is a curious aspect about the ULFA's marauding tactics, of which the attack on the Bihar Hindu labourers was a prime example.

Although the Sikh and Muslim terrorists mainly targeted Hindus, a large number of Sikhs and Muslims also died as a result of their depredation, like bomb blasts in crowded places.

The ULFA, however, has taken care to see that the Muslims do not come to any harm in Assam presumably because of its close links with Bangladesh. This attitude is in striking contrast to the origin of the movement for a 'swadhin' - Assam.

Based on a feeling of neglect by New Delhi and the rest of India towards the Assamese, the secessionist ideas received a boost with the launching of an agitation in 1979 against the illegal immigrants from Bangladesh by the All Assam Students Union -.

The AASU's case was that the unchecked inflow from the neighbouring country was upsetting Assam's demographic and denominational balance.

Since the immigrants were Muslims, the AASU received vociferous support from the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party, and especially one of its most vocal members, Arun Shourie, who became some kind of a hero to the AASU.

However, the campaign against the Bangladeshis soon engendered so much violence that the Bengalis from West Bengal, mainly Hindus, also began to feel the heat and started leaving Assam.

It has to be remembered that the Bengalis were the targets in the 1960s of a now virtually defunct militant Assamese outfit, the Lachit Sena.

During the AASU's agitation, therefore, the earlier animus against the Bengalis combined with the more recent antagonism against the Bangladeshis - both communities speak the same language - to culminate in the infamous Nellie massacre of 1983, whose pictures of murdered children shocked India and the world.

Perhaps realising that the movement was getting out of hand, the AASU agreed to a pact with the Rajiv Gandhi government, leading to the termination of its agitation. The organisation also came to power in Assam in 1985 under the name of Asom Gana Parishad.

But the end of the AASU's anti-foreigner movement did not entail the curbing of chauvinistic instincts in the state, entertained mainly by the upper and middle class Hindus of the Brahmaputra valley.

In place of the AASU, which had become a part of the establishment committed to finding a peaceful solution to the problem of Bangladeshi immigrants, the ULFA began to make its presence felt. Drawing support from the social groups, which had earlier backed the AASU, it ratcheted up its demand from the eviction of aliens to independence, which was a sub-text in the AASU's agitation as well.

Since the ULFA was an underground organisation from the start -, it had to find shelter in neighbouring countries like Bhutan and Bangladesh. After it was driven out of Bhutan by a combined operation of the Indian and Bhutanese security forces, Bangladesh proved to be its main sanctuary. The two senior leaders of the outfit, Arabinda Rajkhowa and Paresh Barua, are said to live there.

But an outcome of the help the ULFA is receiving from Bangladesh is that it has had to dissociate itself from the campaign against illegal immigrants, which was a cornerstone of Assamese parochialism from the time of the Lachit Sena.

Nor can the ULFA turn against the Bengalis, as the Lachit Sena did, because the experience of the AASU's movement showed that the people from West Bengal, too, became victims of the agitation against the Bangladeshis.

Secondly, the ULFA has to avoid harming the Muslim communities lest this should anger its patrons in Dhaka, which reportedly includes the Inter-services Intelligence - of Pakistan, apart from the Directorate General of Forces Intelligence - of Bangladesh.

This somersault of the ULFA from the Lachit Sena-AASU line explains why it launched a vicious attack on the poor Bihari Hindu labourers. It had to undertake the operation to please its DGFI-ISI mentors in Dhaka and also to keep up its 'revolutionary' credentials in the eyes of its dwindling group of supporters in Assam.

But since it could attack neither the Bangladeshis nor the Bengalis, the Biharis had to be singled out. While the other uprisings in the northeast, such as the one by the Nagas, are subsiding because of the cooperation between India and Myanmar, where some of the rebels are based, the ULFA can expect to continue for some more time because of the help it is receiving from both Pakistan and Bangladesh.

But since its targets are now Hindus, it cannot but alienate its base of support in Assam. As a result, the security forces should not find it too difficult to ferret them out from its hideouts.

The ULFA, however, is probably the only group of terrorists, which attacks members of its own religious community because it is being sustained by the fanatics of another religion in neighbouring countries.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Since when did ULFA become Hindu terrorists, do they justify their demands using the Bhagavad Gita or claim to be fighting for Hindus?

Here is some info:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ULFA has a Communist ideology and is known to have
relations with Maoists and it claims that some of its
cadres were trained in Pakistan. Former Indian Defence
Minister George Fernandes once claimed that ULFA was
supported by China by providing them arms. According
to a large group of Indian intellegensia, China is
trying to expand its borders in this way similar to
former Soviet Union (citation needed).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Since when did Communists have religion?

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 02-04-2007

Post 58, about ULFA:
x-posting the following
<!--QuoteBegin-sankara+Feb 2 2007, 08:03 PM-->QUOTE(sankara @ Feb 2 2007, 08:03 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Cover-up for failed social uplift</b>
Sandhya Jain

Further, at this conference, the Prime Minister claimed that the Sachar Committee Report had established the plight of Muslims in terms of their social, economic and educational status. Dr. Singh declared his commitment to eradicate these inequities. Thus, in one quantum jump, the Prime Minister converted the entire Muslim citizenry into a single religious-cum-political grouping, with common secular problems and aspirations. It is a recipe for disaster, as it assumes that all Muslims reject the constitutional ideals of equality, justice and freedom of conscience, and crave for special treatment, when experience shows that special privileges only reinforce alienation and inequality.

It can also, in states like Assam, where the <b>ISI</b> has proved remarkably adept in turning the anti-Bangladeshi migrants ULFA into an anti-Hindu workers outfit, lead to a demand for restoration of communal electorates or reserved seats for Muslims. It may be pertinent to recall in this connection that in the run-up to the last Assembly elections in Assam, Ms. Sonia Gandhi at a public rally virtually instigated the Muslim clerics present on the dais to demand some kind of communal representation.

<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->ULFA is Terroristan-controlled communist terrorism, which matches up with statement quoted in #58:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ULFA has a Communist ideology and is known to have
relations with Maoists and it claims that some of its
cadres were trained in Pakistan<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Media In India/elsewhere -2 - Guest - 02-06-2007

As expected, right on time....

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://www.cnn. com/SPECIALS/ 1999/india. elections/ stories/india. muslims/# 1
<b>India's Muslims seek to counter Hindu nationalism</b> -
NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- Though India's Muslim
minority boasts an estimated 120 million people --
more than any Arab nation and almost as many as in the
Islamic Republic of Pakistan -- <b>it feels more
threatened than ever before. </b>

<b>The recent growth</b> in popularity of the ruling Hindu
nationalist party, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP),
frightens many Muslims, who believe the BJP wants to
dilute their religious identity.