Da Vinci Code

05-29-2006, 11:19 AM

Friends,
Jesus of History was certainly not of what was Jesus of Faith. New Testament Gospels- even Canonical confirms it.

We need to read and Understand the Gospels from Reverse- as History Happened. While living Jesus was unknown to any of the Authors of the Gospel Stories. Was he Son of Bethlehem Lived JACOBâs Son Joseph-wife Maryâs Son as per Matthew OR As Luke says Nazereth lived Heliâs Son Joseph-wife Maryâs Son, these are two different Persons, from Two different places.

But the starting point is Passion or the Arrest and Capital Punishment to that Man from Galilee- Jesus- the arrest by Night â Enquiry in few Hours and Punishment within few hours.
Total Event took place less than say 15 Hours. Jewish law or Roman law does not permit this.

Johnâs Gospel is clear â those arrested Jesus was Roman Soldiers lead by Roman Commanderâ, Now when Passover Festival was On, when Tens of Thousands of Jewish Men were in Jerusalem- for Thanking Lord- for killing Innocent Egyptian Kids and say Thanksgiving by killing of Sheep. Unless it was Serious Law and Order and Problem or riots made by Jesus it would not be possible, for Rome Governor to do this Extreme step. Gospels confirm a Riot in the City, and Killings etc., Jesus must have thought himself as the christ âmessiah of Jewish David Order and Tried to fight by Force and killed Prematurely. This is the Only wasy Gospel Stories of Jesus Arrest and Capital Punishment proves to be Historical.

Resurrection is another Myth- WHEN Paul was asked to prove it in Jerusalem- where this Legend to have taken place, and where Paul earlier bluffed that 500 at once saw dead Jesus, Paul did not call One witness, He used Divide and run Policy by dividing Parsees and Sadducees .

I feel an Analysis of Jesus of History, based on Canonical Gospels and where Fraud quotes of OT as Prophecies have been given need to be Analysed. Kindly advise Suitable Thread and place please.

Solomon.

05-29-2006, 06:35 PM

QUOTE(dhu @ May 29 2006, 01:33 AM)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(s.k.mody @ May 28 2006, 05:16 PM)<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(dhu) ... It is an attempt to expand the 'learning configuration' (per Balu ) of the conspiracy theory. ...


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There are certain questions which confront the Hindu/Pagan as absurd, nonsensical, or otherwise as false issues, etc. For example, the abrahamic obsession with the number of gods is for most Hindus an absurd question, besides the point, if indeed there is a substantive point to be made by "worshipping" one or two or whatever number of gods. When these abrahamic questions or issues begin to make sense to the Hindu, the process of conversion has begun. Da vinci Code poses a number of questions like the difference between the philosopher Christ and the Divine Christ which only make sense in the abrahamic framework and, as such, can be seen to expanding the abrahamic framework. Can we ever imagine a hindu asking about difference between the Philosopher Rama and the Divine Rama. Is Ramayana the expression of Rama's Philosophy as the Bible is the expression of the Abrahamic Lord's plan for Mankind???? (These issues are brought about in Balagangadhara's work.. thread has been deleted from IF....)...
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Very interesting. But from my reading of the book it did not really seem that the author was trying to stir up a theological debate. For the author that Jesus as historical fact is pretty much a given. The impression I got is that the author is saying: "Look, it is obvious that Jesus was a historical figure and a human being like the rest of us -except perhaps with special insights - to think otherwise is just immature. Christian traditions owe a lot to the pagan religions that existed before it and it is futile and ridiculous for anyone to try and supress those. While christians don't need to stop worshipping Jesus they do need to grow up and accept a sane version of history. Moreover the symbols and traditions of these earlier religions are all around you - you don't need to go about hunting for them. Western civilization has a history that is richer than the Church and the Greek/Roman civilizations so delve into it."

However the author takes great care not to really offend the believing christians by putting words into Robert Langdon's mouth - see the end of chapter 82 where provides an apologia. His cheapest shot was that "Every faith in the world is based on fabrication - that is the definition of faith" etc .. Later on: "The Bible remains the fundamental guidepost for millions of people on the planet ..."

More egregiously "Should we wave flags and tell Buddhists that Buddha did not emerge from a lotus blossom." - Clearly intended to fool a prospective audience that is totally clueless about Buddha, Buddhism or Buddhists.

Looks to me that the only possible loser in this is the Catholic church.

Regards,
Sandeep.

05-29-2006, 06:47 PM

QUOTEPoles are amused at ruckus
- By Surender Bhutani

Warsaw, May 18: In Poland, where 95 per cent of the population is
Catholic and three ultra-rightist Catholic parties are part of the
ruling coalition, people are amused at the demand in India to ban The
Da Vinci Code.

"This film is going to be shown on Friday throughout Poland and the
Pope is going to visit Poland next Thursday. Still there are no
protests to ban the film here," Jerzy Zdanowski, director of Non-
European Studies at the Polish Academy of Sciences, said.

"When my wife heard this news on Polish Radio and told me on phone
that Christians and Muslims had come out on the streets in Mumbai to
protest against the release of The Da Vinci Code, I was taken back
and asked myself if I was not a good Christian?"

Christian leaders in India â where just over two per cent of the
population of over a billion is Christian but at 26 million still has
a significant political say in some states â say the film presents a
distorted picture of their faith and would hurt religious sentiments.

But Poles are wondering what the fuss is all about.

Mr Zdanowski's colleague Stanslaw Tokarski quipped: "Perhaps converts
are better Christians than we the originals.

"It will be a sad day if the Indian government plays into the hands
of narrow-minded people, the way they did it in the past when they
banned Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses, which also caused religious
frenzy in the whole of the Middle East."

The media here is also debating the Indian response to the film.

"The fact of the matter is, when the book written by Dan Brown was
not banned, why should the film version be banned? It is freedom of
expression, let people decide whether it is blasphemous or not," said
Krzyzstof Mrzozwicz, a senior journalist, in Polityka weekly. He the
Polish ambassador to India from 1996 to 2001.

"The Vatican has not taken any stand on banning or censoring the
film. Why are the Indian authorities seeing the whole issue with
tinted glasses?

"In a country like the Philippines, where 80 per cent people are
Catholics, the Cardinal of Manila has not proposed any ban on the
movie," he added.

There is a tremendous buildup for the movie all around Poland. Metro
wagons, trams and buses have been painted with scenes of the film.

The international controversy has also boosted ticket sales for the
film. According to its distributors, more than two million Poles are
likely to watch the movie.

(IANS)

05-29-2006, 08:07 PM

QUOTE(dhu @ May 29 2006, 01:33 AM)
(These issues are brought about in Balagangadhara's work.. thread has been deleted from IF....)...



Dhu, it may have been archived and not deleted (lack of activity perhaps). Please start a thread and guide the discussion. Thanks

05-30-2006, 07:19 AM

Silencing The Da Vinci Code
By Kalavai Venkat

ramana · 05-30-2006, 08:30 PM

Sandhya Jian in Poineer, 30 ma 2006
QUOTEWincing over Da Vinci Code

Sandhya Jain

Three Vatican-affiliated satra-pies have unilaterally banned the Hollywood blockbuster, The Da Vinci Code, thereby affirming paramount loyalty to Il Papa as opposed to the Indian nation. Nagaland, as is well known, was among the first States in which foreign Christian missionaries armed, trained and inspired tribal converts to secede from New Delhi. Recall that this was an era in which Bangladeshi bases and ISI did not exist. Gun-running and arms proliferation went back to the munificence of rich Western nations.

Goa, though not a Christian-majority State, is dominated by Governor SC Jamir, ex-Chief Minister of Nagaland. However, to the uninitiated, the decision that raises eyebrows is that of Punjab. Yet the cognoscenti know that church building has acquired unimaginable proportions in the tenure of Captain Amarinder Singh; one can hardly visit cities like Amritsar without stumbling over a missionary every few yards. Obviously Capt Singh is trying to please his foreign-born Roman Catholic boss at the cost of his natal culture.

Yet we would be making a serious mistake if we do not remember that Pakistan was created - partly by dividing Punjab - as part of a design by the Christian West for post-colonial domination of the region. Pakistan helped the West monitor events in the oil-rich Gulf and Hindu India. That is why, when the Seventh Fleet of our now 'natural ally' failed to deter Mrs Indira Gandhi from liberating East Pakistan, West Pakistan was handed the blueprint for a new offensive against India.

Although credit for the Khalistani movement has historically vested with the late Gen Zia ul-Haq, it bears the stamp of our old colonial masters. Divide and rule, and what better tool than the Sikh community, which had already been re-invented from the sword arm of Hindu society into a spoilt minority? Elite or ordinary, Punjabis are both gregarious and greedy, and it was a cakewalk for Zia's Punjabi Muslim officers to cultivate pilgrims to Nankana Sahib with sentimental claptrap about how politicians had divided the united soul of the people and overload the visitors with gifts. Propaganda and freebies were both lapped up with alacrity, and the rest is history. Meanwhile, Khalistani leaders found hospitality in Britain and Canada. The same farce is now being enacted in Kashmir.

It is my contention that dismembering India from both flanks remains a Western goal, and Punjab's effete politicians are the tool for its execution. Those concerned about India's territorial integrity would do well to watch developments in border States. If Christian missionaries have an overt presence in the north east, they have a powerful covert presence on the western border as well, and this includes Gujarat and Rajasthan, where West-funded Christian and 'secular' NGOs have a formidable presence.

Not surprisingly, both States figure on the Bishop of Rome's radar for daring to enact anti-conversion laws to protect India's civilisational continuity and national character. Pope Benedict XVI's remarks challenged our sovereignty and the UPA response was tepid because of the supremacy of an Italian-born Roman Catholic, who refused to rebuff this gross insult to her adopted country, though her acolytes had claimed she was a 'Hindu' when she stormed into Tirupati without signing the register for non-Hindu visitors. As president of the only political party which condemned this civilisational assault, Mr Rajnath Singh would do well to declare that should the BJP return to power, it will de-recognise the non-secular, non-elected Vatican City regime. This will go a long way in keeping soul-scavengers at bay.

Interestingly, even as the head of Christendom's largest sect was interpreting our Constitution for us and telling us to behave so he could make good (Christian) souls out of us, the Vatican executed a duplicitous charade on the issue of faith conversions. According to news reports, between May 12-16, the Pope's Council for Inter-religious Dialogue and the Office on Inter-religious Relations and Dialogue of the World Council of Churches invited a group of carefully selected persons from the Bauddha, Christian, Hindu, Islamic, Judaic and Yoruba (Nairobi) traditions to evolve a common code of conduct for conversions.

Now this is half-clever. A Church-chosen gathering endorses the Christian position that conversions are legitimate, and agrees to prescribe certain procedures by which these may be undertaken. Missionaries can thus work unimpeded while the cultures being cannibalised are made to shut up. A placebo was offered against "unethical" conversions; it was said: "There should be transparency in the practice of inviting others to one's faith."

To my mind, conversions are innately unethical; the objective is to grab territory by making citizens abdicate from the natal tradition. Hence, missionaries should openly state that the purpose of their charity is to procure numbers for the church mission of universal dominion. Ideally, such invitations should be extended outside the borders of target societies. Vatican City could issue one lakh visas to Afghan tribals, inviting them to Christianity. The exhortation that humanitarian work should not be used to take advantage of vulnerable sections is simply deceitful. The behaviour of missionary charities in the Asian tsunami in Tamil Nadu, Sri Lanka and Indonesia was shameful, but consistent with missionary tradition.

The final agreed report sought to plant the notion that freedom of religion is a fundamental, non-negotiable right of every human being in every country in the world. This is said to involve the freedom to practise one's own faith without obstruction (a warning to Islamic republics like Saudi Arabia), and the freedom to propagate one's faith to people of one's own and other faiths (ie. convert them). Above all, however, it includes the freedom to embrace another faith out of one's own free choice (to be certified solely by the converting agency). This is utterly consistent with Christian unilateralism and Western arrogance.

The modern world, however, needs a touch of diplomacy. Accordingly, the report piously intones that freedom of religion enjoins the "non-negotiable responsibility to respect faiths other than our own, and never to denigrate, vilify or misrepresent them for the purpose of affirming superiority of our faith... all should heal themselves from the obsession of converting others." Now if only the rapporteurs of the meeting would take these recommendations to Pope Benedict XVI and make him acknowledge the errors and injustices perpetrated by the Church over two millennia of its existence.

dhu · (This post was last modified: 05-30-2006, 09:32 PM by dhu.)

QUOTE(Solomon @ May 29 2006, 11:19 AM)I feel an Analysis of Jesus of History, based on Canonical Gospels and where Fraud quotes of OT as Prophecies have been given need to be Analysed. Kindly advise Suitable Thread and place please.
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Solomon,
Please continue your analysis on this thread. I am sure moderators can move it to another thread if needed.

Elst says the Resurrection was nothing more than a practical joke of the roman centurions:
QUOTECrucified convicts were tied (not nailed) to a cross, and their death was brought about by torture and by breaking their bones.Â Interestingly, the Roman soldiers refrained from breaking Jesusâ bones, no doubt because they had orders to do so.Â Having heard of the prediction that Jesus would rise on the third day, Pilate must have thought it quite an interesting practical joke to arrange for the effective re-appearance of this weird godman.Â So, he ordered a servant to look after Jesus after he had been taken down from the cross, and to get him back on his feet by the third day...
...The belief that he had come back was crucial to the Christiansâ faith, and only a few years after the fact, Saint Paul declared that without the âresurrectionâ, the Christian faith would make no sense.Â Â http://www.bharatvani.org/books/pp/ch3.htm

Still, I find it a more satisfying explanation that the story of the resurrected mithras was incorporated into the bible narrative at a later date. Still, we have to ask ourselves, why do the christians have this absurd need to prove that, without christ's resurrection, his 'sacrifice' on the cross has no meaning. also the idea of one man compensating for the sins of entire mankind is completely nonsensical from the karma standpoint in which one action begets another action..

It should not be too hard to get the image implanted into Hindu brains that christ was nothing more than a sadomasochist who enjoyed being paraded naked on a donkey and mocked at, who had purposefully enacted his macabre death wish in order to die vaingloriously as the messiah... just another besharmi like nutwar singh intent on lingering in people's memory well past his catastrophic failure..

at long last, we are at a juncture where the Christians are being forced to abandon the trope of christ as the innocent victim of bloodthirsty and hardheaded jews... and they are desperately trying to redefine him as a philosopher (eg da vinci), a revolutionist, etc.

05-30-2006, 11:48 PM

QUOTE(Mudy @ May 29 2006, 06:49 PM)Silencing The Da Vinci Code
By Kalavai Venkat
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Great article from Kalavai, as usual. This needs to be spread far and wide.

05-30-2006, 11:50 PM

Solomon,

I think this is a suitable thread.

06-01-2006, 01:25 AM

http://tbknews.blogspot.com/

Its a blog from Acharya S author of The Christ Conspiracy.. Her other article is worth reading.. http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm

She has commented on the article by Kalavai on the front end..

http://tbknews.blogspot.com/2006/05/discla...is-fiction.html

ramana · 06-01-2006, 08:00 PM

Google News Search on TN, AP and Pak ban on the film

I think the sub-continent politicans are whipping the frenzy on the film to create a new crisis and identity for Christians.

06-01-2006, 08:37 PM

QUOTEI think the sub-continent politicans are whipping the frenzy on the film to create a new crisis and identity for Christians.
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06-02-2006, 04:28 PM

http://da2vinci.googlepages.com/
(Ramana: Please let me know if it's not relevant in this thread)

06-04-2006, 07:54 PM

Da Vinci Code withdrawn in GoaQUOTEMeanwhile, Congress MP Churchill Alemao, who had warned that he would forcibly stop the screening of the film, said, "It's a victory for the Lord. We are withdrawing the agitation as Inox has stopped screening the movie since Sunday morning." 

Earlier, Catholic leaders under the banner of the Anti-blasphemous Action Front, criticised the Inox multiplex for screening the movie for the past two days despite opposition from the people
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"There cannot be a fiction on God, you can have fiction on human beings," Alemao said while addressing the meeting

06-08-2006, 08:39 AM

Beyond âThe Da Vinci Codeâ: Politics and theology from a Hindu/pagan perspective

dhu · 06-08-2006, 07:21 PM

QUOTEChinese ban Da Vinci Code movie

..Since it was released in China last month, the film has made 104 million yuan (Â£7m) and was on its way to becoming one of the most successful foreign films to be released in China..

..Wu Hehu, spokesman for Shanghai's United Cinema Line Corporation, said he received a notice to cease showing the film, but he did not know why the order was made.

"This is such a short notice from the film's distributor," he said. ..

..The BBC's Quentin Sommerville in Beijing said there had been speculation that the film was proving too popular with Chinese Christians...

06-12-2006, 07:25 PM

QUOTEINDIA: NEW INTEREST IN 'JESUS GRAVE' IN KASHMIR

http://asianage.com/main.asp?layout=2&cat1...&RF=DefaultMain

Srinagar, 12 June (AKI/Asian Age) - The hypothesis that Jesus Christ is buried in central Srinagar, the summer capital of Indian-administered Kashmir, has aroused a lot of interest among historiographers, researchers, scholars, archaeologists and religious groups both in India and worldwide once again. A team of German researchers, including two archaeologists, is planning to visit Srinagar later this year to investigate the subject.

Within India, the political party known as the Janata Party has set up a group of experts from among its members which would be coming to Kashmir's summer capital soon to start research work. The party's president, Dr Subramanian Swamy, who was in Srinagar last week, said that after reading a booklet by a German he has a "feeling of curiosity" about Jesus Christ and Moses having visited Kashmir and in the belief that both had died and are buried in the Valley.

Muslims in Kashmir and elsewhere revere both Jesus and Moses as "noble prophets" of "Bani Israel" (Children of Israel), as the Koran makes a number of references to them. Swamy also pointed to the belief of many Kashmiris that they were one of the "Lost Tribes" of Israel.

"It is a matter of great interest that Prophet Moses is buried in Kashmir and that Jesus too had visited the Valley, went to Ladakh to visit the Hemis monastery where he took Buddhism as his faith, returned home but left it again for Kashmir to escape persecution, and died here in Srinagar," he said. The Janata Party leader said that the team he has set up would do methodical research on the subject and come out with its findings "which everybody in the country would be
interested in."

In the past teams of researchers from Israel, Germany and other parts of the world conducted studies on the subject but could not find any scientific verification of the hypothesis.

The premise that Jesus is buried at Rozabal in the Khanyar area of Srinagar and that Moses is buried outside Bandipore town in north Kashmir thus requires a proper scientific study to ascertain the truth.

Kashmiri scholar and historian Fida Muhammad Hussein, a former director of the department of archaeology of the state, asserted that in history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject, "because research... and more research" could lead to fresh discoveries. He believes that the hypothesis that the people of Kashmir are one of the Lost Tribes cannot be baseless as there are many similarities between Israel and Kashmir in terms of language and traditions, and he would like to see a thorough study initiated into the subject.

"I think these similarities only strengthen the belief that we are one of the Lost Tribes. Yet the research into the subject must go on," he told the Indian daily, the Asian Age.

Suzanna Olsson, the author of a recently published book, Jesus, Last King of Kashmir: Life after the Crucifixion, reveals the findings of her seven-year journey through the Himalayan state. She was in the Valley and also visited other parts of India, went to Afghanistan and other places to spearhead an investigative study into the post-crucifixion life of Jesus Christ. She says that she drew her inspiration from sources that range from the traditional sacred writings of many of the world's main religions, to the legendary tales of Europe and Asia and the annals of contemporary research. The author leads readers to what she believes are the tombs of Jesus and his mother Mary, located within India, and expounds on the evidence she has uncovered.

Olsson is personally convinced of the tombs' authenticity but frustrated in her efforts to obtain scientific verification, which is vital for acceptance by the rest of the world. According to her, the basis of the beliefs is through tracing the lineage of Jesus Christ, correlating traditional Biblical figures and places with those historically recognised throughout the Kashmir region, and interpreting religious texts in an unconventional light, concentrating on their commonalties.

Many others who support the interesting tradition passed down among Kashmiris regarding their ancestry from the Lost Tribes of Israel point out that various places in the region have Israeli names, such as Har Nevo, Beit Peor, Pisga, Heshubon. These are all the names in the land of the Ten Tribes of Israel.

The same thing is true in the names of people â both male and female names, as well as the names of villages. People in Kashmir perform a feast called Pasca in spring, when they adjust the difference of days between the lunar calendar and solar calendar, and the method of this adjustment is the same as the Jewish one. Several books have been published on this.

Urdu, the official language of the state for over two centuries, includes many words of Hebrew. There are about a hundred names of places in Kashmir which are in fact Hebrew names that ancient Israelites were extremely familiar with. Hoon in Kashmiri means a dog, and wife is called Aashen â the same as in Hebrew. The word "Joo" added as a honorific by local Muslims to the names of elderly persons to show respect â for instance Muhammad Joo or Ahmed Joo â is believed to be derived from the word Jew. One of the tribes of Kashmir is called Asheriya, which is Asher; the tribe of Dand is Dan; Gadha is Gad; Lavi is Levi.

Aziz Kashmiri, in his book Jesus in Kashmir, also refers to common eating habits. "Half roasted fish called phar in Kashmir is the favourite dish of both the Israelis and the people of Kashmir," he said. He insisted that many inhabitants of Kashmir are descendants of the Lost Tribes who were exiled in 722 B.C. They wandered along the Silk Road into the countries of the East, to Persia and Afghanistan, until they reached the Vale of Kashmir and settled there. He refers to the travelling 12th century Arab historian El Bironi, who had written: "In the past, permission to enter Kashmir was given only to the Jews."

(Aki/Asian Age) Jun-12-06 09:10

ramana · (This post was last modified: 06-12-2006, 08:55 PM by ramana.)

From Deccan Chronicle, 12 June 2006

QUOTENew interest in J&K âJesus graveâ
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Srinagar, June 11: The hypothesis that Jesus Christ is buried in a central Srinagar locality has aroused a lot of interest among historiographers, researchers, scholars, archaeologists and religious groups both in India and worldwide once again.

A team of German researchers, including two archaeologists, is planning to visit Srinagar later this year to investigate the subject. Within India, the Janata Party has set up a group of experts from among its members which would be coming to Kashmirâs summer capital soon to start research work.

The partyâs president, Dr Subramanian Swamy, who was in Srinagar last week, said that after reading a booklet by a German he has a âfeeling ofÂ curiosityâ about Jesus Christ and Moses having visited Kashmir and in the belief that both had died and are buried in the Valley. Muslims in Kashmir and elsewhere revere both Jesus and Moses as ânoble prophetsâ of âBani Israelâ (Children of Israel), as the Quran makes a number of references to them. 

Dr Swamy also pointed to the belief of many Kashmiris that they were one of the âLost Tribesâ of Israel. âIt is a matter of great interest that Prophet Moses is buried in Kashmir and that Jesus too had visited the Vale, went to Ladakh to visit the Hemis monastery where he took Buddhism as his faith, returned home but left it again for Kashmir to escape persecution, and died here in Srinagar,â he said.

The Janata Party leader said that the team he has set up would do methodical research on the subject and come out with its findings âwhich everybody in the country would be interested in.â In the past teams of researchers from Israel, Germany and other parts of the world conducted studies on the subject but could not find any scientific verification of the hypothesis.

The premise that Jesus is buried at Rozabal in the Khanyar area of Srinagar and that Moses is buried outside Bandipore town in north Kashmir thus requires a proper scientific study to ascertain the truth. Kashmiri scholar and historian Fida Muhammad Hussein, a former director of the department of archaeology of the State, asserted that in history there is no such thing as the last word on any subject, âbecause research... and more researchâ could lead to fresh discoveries.

He believes that the hypothesis that the people of Kashmir are one of the Lost Tribes cannot be baseless as there are many similarities between Israel and Kashmir in terms of language and traditions, and he would like to see a thorough study initiated into the subject. âI think these similarities only strengthen the belief that we are one of the Lost Tribes. Yet the research into the subject must go on,â he told this newspaper.

Suzanna Olsson, the author of a recently published book, Jesus, Last King of Kashmir: Life after the Crucifixion, reveals the findings of her seven-year journey through the Himalayan State. She was in the Valley and also visited other parts of India, went to Afghanistan and other places to spearhead an investigative study into the post-crucifixion life of Jesus Christ.

She says that she drew her inspiration from sources that range from the traditional sacred writings of many of the worldâs main religions, to the legendary tales of Europe and Asia and the annals of contemporary research. The author leads readers to what she believes are the tombs of Jesus and his mother Mary, located within India, and expounds on the evidence she has uncovered.

Ms Olsson is personally convinced of the tombsâ authenticity but frustrated in her efforts to obtain scientific verification, which is vital for acceptance by the rest of the world. According to her, the basis of the beliefs is through tracing the lineage of Jesus Christ, correlating traditional Biblical figures and places with those historically recognised throughout the Kashmir region, and interpreting religious texts in an unconventional light, concentrating on their commonalties.

Many others who support the interesting tradition passed down among Kashmiris regarding their ancestry from the Lost Tribes of Israel point out that various places in the region have Israeli names, such as Har Nevo, Beit Peor, Pisga, Heshubon.


need to watch the story as it develops. The West might decide to solve the Middle East problem by creating a new Israel in Kashmir!

PDf file: http://www.bookwire.com/PDF/olsson.pdf

and
Is There a Secret Hidden Tomb for Jesus in Kashmir? Convincing Evidence Says Yes

QUOTEIs There a Secret Hidden Tomb for Jesus in Kashmir? Convincing Evidence Says Yes

What Comes after 'The Passion?' The discovery of Jesus' secret tomb in the little Himalayan country of Kashmir. With just as much gusto and adventure as Indiana Jones in search of the Holy Grail, here's the real thing, with a few unusual twists. Life is always stranger than fiction.

New York, NY (PRWEB) May 10, 2005 -- In a jaw-dropping new book by Suzanna Olsson, In Search of Jesus; Last Starchild of the Old Silk Road she describes her incredible quest to research the life of Jesus. She trekked through Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kashmir, India, Israel, Ethiopia and Egypt to discover fascinating new findings about Jesusâ life after the Crucifixion, the commonalities among the worldâs religions and other mesmerizing information about the origins of world religions.

In Search of Jesus examines the lives of the individuals in the Bible stories we know todayand found they were known as pharaohs in Egypt, as great warriors in the Mahabarata epics, and as Kings in Kashmir.. Olsson visited Noahâs grave in Sialkot Pakistan, and explains how the yantra or Star of David is the symbol also known as the Star of Kashmir, where most people are of Hebrew descent.

Her findings also reveal that Shangri-La in the Himalayas is considered by many in the east to be the abode of Shiva, and had once been home to Abraham and Sarah. Olsson delves into detailed descriptions of the three magi who visited Jesus in Bethlehem, and the lives of Aaron, Moses, and the two Marys. Jesus. she says, was taught by the same magi schools that taught Mary Magdalene and the Buddha.She identifies the Hebrew connections between Buddha and Jesus, and traces the source of their similarities back to their Jewish grandfathers and the writings of Enoch.

'In Search of Jesus' is not only a thought-provoking book about the ancient history of Christianity, but also her own travels through the east. This brave woman, nicknamed âIndiana Sueâ by her friends, spent years after her retirement traveling with guides and translators, donning burkhas and interacting with local people. She was with the Taliban before and after the 9-11 attacks, yet the governments allowed her to continue her research as a gesture of goodwill and respect for her stamina and for the very unique nature of her research. Her descriptions of her ordeals are powerful, especially her crushing disappointment when the research into Roza Bal, the tomb thought by many to be for Jesus, was suddenly cancelled by a few misguided directors.

Moving and awe-inspiring, In Search of Jesus the culmination of years of intense and dangerous hard work and research by a grandmother who risked her life for the truth about those people who fill the pages of one of the most revered religious texts in the world.

Olsson has won praise from leading scholars such as Dr. Fida Hassnain of Kashmir, who wrote the forward, and the original Thomasian church, the Church of the East. When renowned scholars began contacting her for information, she âknew she had achieved something special.â
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She is now preparing a second, revised edition that will disuss her efforts to obtain the final proof, and the DNA, and to rescue the site from desecration by Taliban before, like the Bamiyam Buddha, it's too late.

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06-21-2006, 04:02 AM

QUOTEhttp://www.hindustantimes.com/2006/Jun/18/...722449,0030.htm
Da Vinci is Da Truth?
Ringside view | Ashok Row Kavi
June 17, 2006

Just imagine! Just imagine all the Gandhiana in the country being written not in the 20th Century but in the 24th Century. How authentic would you think it would be? Well, I have news for you: the earliest the Christian 'Gospels' can be historically dated is that far away from the 'birth' of Jesus. The very 'fact' of that lovely fable of Bethlehem can be traced to Emperor Constantine's mother, the ebullient, effervescent Helena who "discovered" Bethlehem and then went on to discover so many pieces of the Holy Cross that if they were put together we would have a crucifix 200 feet high! However much they try, Christians can't seem to date modern Bethlehem further than 330 CE (Common Era) which is again four centuries after Jesus of Nazareth was allegedly born. The caustic American Gore Vidal has put it down quite vividly in his biographical fiction (again) on Julian, the last non-Christian emperor of the Byzantine Empire situated in what is now modern Istanbul, formerly Constantinople.

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06-25-2006, 01:21 AM

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Protests stop Da Vinci screening in Hyderabad 

Hyderabad (ICNS) -- Dozens of Christian volunteers staged protests across Hyderabad, and a noisy demonstration in front of Prasad's IMAX theatre in the city forced the management stop screening of the controversial film The Da Vinci Code on Friday.

The Christian protests came in the wake of a High Court ruling in Andhra Pradesh on Wednesday that dismissed a state government order banning the filmâs screening.

A group of 50 volunteers of All India Christian United Front gathered in front of the IMAX theatre, holding placards and raising slogans against the film, saying it has deeply hurt the religious sentiments of Christians in India.

Forced by the protests, the theatre management cancelled the show that was to begin at 3.15 pm. Incidentally, Prasad's IMAX was the only theatre to start showing the film today, as other theatres in the city and elsewhere in the state could not take up screening at short notice. The theatre had planned a single show until Sunday and three shows a day from Monday.

The theatre management said they had full bookings for today's matinee show.

Although the protestors had made it known that they would not allow the screening and had even alerted the media before gathering at 3 pm, the police was blissfully unaware of the threat. Police arrived only after the protestors staged a demonstration and dispersed.

Meanwhile, the state government has decided to file an appeal before a division bench of the state High Court against a single judge's orders quashing its order banning the exhibition of the film in English, Telugu or any other language in the state.

On Wednesday, the High Court dealt with a batch of writ petitions filed by distributors seeking a stay on the government's orders and Justice Raghuram stayed the ban.

The court also directed the government to pay a fine of Rs 10,000 each to the film's producer and distributor. The judge observed that it was not proper on the part of the government to impose a ban just because some individuals and organisations had demanded it. 

The verdict came 20 days after the Congress-led Andhra Pradesh government banned the screening.

"After taking into consideration the reports and complaints of members of minority community, particularly Christians, the government has come to the conclusion that exhibition of the film is likely to cause breach of peace and hurt religious sentiments," the ban order had said.

Justice G Raghuram declared the government's action in imposing a ban on June 1 on the screening of the film "as extravagant, arbitrary and wholly irrational."

Christian groups in India have been demanding to ban the movie on the grounds that it would hurt the religious sentiments of Christians.

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