US Elections 2008 - II

04-03-2008, 04:02 AM

A Tale of 2 Trinities
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8HLL5ksl60

QUOTEOne cannot deny that it was a major speech in terms of race relations in the US.
ofcourse not, it was major joke. Only thing came out of that speech was he rammed his own racist white grand mother under bus. Now "typical white person" T-shirts, tote-bags, sweat-shirts are hot item in US.

04-03-2008, 05:14 AM

YouTube - Shelby Steele - Race and the Obama Campaign -Jan 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eumK6YL3jvc

Viren,
Here is kool-aid diet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NMrjxWLmgA

dhu · (This post was last modified: 04-03-2008, 06:15 AM by dhu.)

Here's another video linked to one above

Shelby Steele - "Racial Masking" in American Popular Culture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuRTSQ6iWps

The 'masking of one's self'-type survival strategies are completely lacking in indian culture. There has never been such things as "lower caste" uncle toms or mascots or dancing clowns. This is because Indian culture and categories are nonideological. What will be the effect of having someone immersed in this racial masking dynamic on world stage?

04-04-2008, 10:44 PM

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/up...arackrhodes.jpg
Event sponsored by OBAMA called Clinton and Ferroro Whores.

Future of USA, so-called civilized world

dhu · (This post was last modified: 04-05-2008, 10:50 PM by dhu.)

Soros and the Democratic Party
By Sandhya Jain

The recent spate of articles in American media savaging Senator Barack Obama, all by White Americans (naturally), and keeping Hillary Clintonâs candidature alive in the face of obvious public yearning for change, suggests heavy duty behind-the-scenes manoeuvres by corporate America.

In an era when Uncle Sam believes it is on the verge of achieving world dominion for its corporate shareholders, the unseen men who control Washington will not let a Black immigrant with questionable commitment to white corporate culture come too close to the White House. Not that Obama was ever going to make it to the White House; yet now it seems even the Democratic Party nomination may be too much for some to stomach.

Multi-billionaire and political philanthropist, George Soros, an avid supporter of the Democratic Party, would be among those uncomfortable with this idea. It is well known that Soros played a key role in the Asian Crisis of the 1990s, and the âcolouredâ revolutions in former Soviet Republics. Now that India and China have opened their economies to globalisation, they could face similar risks. The Executive Intelligence Review feels Soros is the public face of Rothschild bankers. Soon after the Asia Crisis, Soros himself claimed: âIf there was ever a man who would fit the stereotype of the Judeo-plutocratic Bolshevik Zionist world conspirator, it is me,â (Sydney Morning Herald interview, November 15, 1997).

As one of the most audacious mega-speculators in the world, Soros positioned himself to serve Anglo-American banking interests and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), striking at the economies and political sovereignty of East European nations. Australian writer Peter Myers notes Soros played a major role in restructuring the Polish economy along with former Federal Reserve chairman Paul Volcker (later North American chairman of David Rockefellerâs Trilateral Commission); Citibank vice-chairman H. Anno Ruding (ex-IMF); and Harvard Professor Jeffrey Sachs. A key role in spreading the âfree marketâ economics that has destroyed nations is played by the Sorosâ Open Society Fund, its network of institutions and foundations, not to mention human rights NGOs.

In Serbia, until the 1999 NATO bombings to subdue Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic, the Soros Fund operated a Civil Centre in Pristina, Kosovo, to fight for the national independence of the Albanian Muslim majority. In Belgrade, it operated âRadio B-92,â which played a major role in the anti-Milosevic student riots in 1996-97.

It goes without saying that such initiatives can succeed only if significant actors are removed from public life. A common trick is to malign them as âcommunists, fascists, reactionariesâ; sometimes they are kidnapped and taken to The Hague for trial as international criminals (for crimes that cannot be proven). Still others vanish at the hands of âinvisible death squadsâ; after the removal of Milosevic, a number of prominent persons were murdered in Serbia. The Soros Fund Management operates hedge funds with $US 18 billion in assets; these make large highly leveraged bets on movements in stocks, currencies bonds and commodities, thus playing havoc in foreign markets.

The Soros network of foundations and institutes stretch across Albania, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Georgia, Guatemala, Haiti, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Poland, Romania, Russia, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Tajikistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan, Yugoslavia. They provide scholarships to Burmese dissidents and funds for radio broadcasts into Burma in support of Aung San Suu Kyi (naturally).

Western observers say that contrary to the conventional wisdom that socialism collapsed in Eastern Europe due to systemic weaknesses and the inability of the political elite to garner popular support, the role played by Soros was critical. From 1979, he gave $3 million per annum to Polandâs Solidarity movement, Charter 77 in Czechoslovakia and Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union (the latter recently claimed that the election of new Russian President Dmitry Medvedev was not free and fair). In 1984, he opened the Open Society Institute in Hungary and pumped millions of dollars to the opposition. By eroding established political structures, he helped pave the way for Eastern Europeâs colonisation by global capital.

Yugoslavia was targetted because the Slavs repeatedly elected the Socialist Party of Slobodan Milosevic. Then in 1991, Soros launched the Open Society Institute and pumped over $100 million to the anti-Milosevic opposition, publishing houses and âindependentâ media like Radio B-92. When Milosevic was finally removed to The Hague tribunal, the charges of war crimes and genocide framed against him were collected (read made up) by the Soros-funded Human Rights Watch!

It is pertinent that for the West, an âopenâ society is not one that respects human rights and freedoms, but one open to western capitalist exploitation. George Soros has the knack of making a fortune in every country he works to open. In Kosovo, he spent $50 million to gain control of the Trepca mine complex, which has enormous reserves of gold, silver, lead and other minerals said to be worth around $5 billion. This was the modus operandi all over Eastern Europeâruin a country and its economy and then move in to buy valuable state assets at throwaway prices.

04-06-2008, 01:29 AM

George Soros and his support to Obama is bad combination for any developing country especially India. He had created pupet Obama .

**acharya** · 04-06-2008, 10:05 AM

Modern road to White House 'verges on insane,' says Gingrich

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Potential presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich on Tuesday blasted the modern-day road to the White House as too long, too expensive and verging on "insane."
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Ex-House Speaker Newt Gingrich says the presidential campaign structure is "stunningly dangerous."

The former House speaker from Georgia said he will decide whether to enter the GOP presidential field in October. But in a wide-ranging speech at the National Press Club in Washington, he ridiculed campaign consultants and spin doctors who he said are extending the 2008 campaign. He said presidential debates have become "almost unendurable."

"These aren't debates," the former Georgia congressman said. "This is a cross between [TV shows] 'The Bachelor,' 'American Idol' and 'Who's Smarter than a Fifth-Grader.'"

"What's the job of the candidate in this world?" asked Gingrich. "The job of the candidate is to raise the money to hire the consultants to do the focus groups to figure out the 30-second answers to be memorized by the candidate. This is stunningly dangerous." Video Watch why Gingrich is "deeply worried" Â»

Gingrich said the need to raise tens of millions of dollars has driven campaigns to begin cranking up much earlier than ever. Meanwhile, he said, advisers are telling candidates to begin campaigning "as soon as possible -- I need a check."

"Go look at all the analysis," said Gingrich. "Why are people starting early? Because you can't build the organization. What are you building the organization for? So you can raise the money."

But for most voters, he said, the race "begins after Christmas, no matter what the news media has to cover." He cited the example of former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, who was the Democratic front-runner until the first votes of the 2004 campaign were cast.
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"Normal, rational Iowans who had rigorously avoided politics for the entire previous year looked up and said, 'He's weird.' And they looked back down, and Howard Dean disintegrated," Gingrich said.

At the same time, he said, any candidate who dares to change position on an issue during a two-year campaign risks being labeled a "flip-flopper" -- an epithet used to undercut 2004 Democratic nominee John Kerry and one being waved at current Republican hopeful Mitt Romney.

"You begin to trap people," Gingrich said. "As the campaigns get longer, you're asking a person who's going to be sworn in in January of 2009 to tell you what they'll do in January of 2007, when they haven't got a clue -- because they don't know what the world will be like, and you're suggesting they won't learn anything through the two years of campaigning."

"For the most powerful nation on Earth to have an election in which Swift Boat veterans versus National Guard papers becomes a major theme verges on insane," said Gingrich, referring to 2004 campaign controversies that targeted Kerry and President Bush. "I mean, it's just -- and to watch those debates, I found painful -- for both people. They're both smarter than the debates."

He blamed the pressures of sound-bite campaigning for the recent controversy over Sen. Barack Obama's declaration that he would dispatch U.S. troops to Pakistan to attack leaders of the al Qaeda terrorist network if Pakistani authorities fail to get them.

Gingrich said the Illinois Democrat, one of his party's leading presidential candidates, "said a very insightful thing in a very dangerous way." But the response, he said, "was to attack Senator Obama, not to explore the underlying kernel of what he said."

Gingrich's answer to the problems would be to get rid of limits on campaign financing, which he said have made the problems worse by requiring more individual donations to meet the same goals, and to stage a series of "dialogues" among the major-party candidates -- once a week, for 90 minutes, for nine weeks before the elections.

Candidates would pick the topics, and their answers would be uninterrupted "except for fairness on time," he said.

"After nine 90-minute conversations in their living rooms, the American people would have a remarkable sense of the two personalities and which person had the right ideas, the right character, the right capacity to be a leader," he said.

Gingrich, who has long billed himself as a visionary, led the Republicans who captured both houses of Congress in 1994 elections. National polls in July ranked him fifth among current GOP contenders, with average support of 7 percent, according to a CNN poll released Monday.

Gingrich stepped down as House speaker in 1998, after Republicans lost seats amid the drive to impeach then-President Bill Clinton over allegations that he lied under oath about a sexual relationship with a White House intern.
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In March, Gingrich acknowledged he was having an affair of his own around the same time. He insisted he was not a hypocrite because Clinton was not impeached for the affair -- but for lying about it.

The Senate acquitted Clinton the following year, and his wife, former first lady-turned-New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, is among the current Democratic front-runners. E-mail to a friend E-mail to a friend

04-07-2008, 10:19 PM

219 children, women taken from sect's ranch in America - CNN
QUOTEhttp://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/06/texas....ml?iref=topnews

Story Highlights
* 16-year-old who made abuse claims still not identified
* 159 children, 60 adults removed from polygamist sect's compound
* Sect leader Warren Jeffs convicted last year of being accomplice to rape

ELDORADO, Texas (CNN) -- More than 200 women and children have been removed from a Texas ranch that's home to members of a polygamist sect, but authorities have not identified the girl who called them with allegations of abuse.

The 16-year-old girl, who called authorities last week with allegations of physical and sexual abuse at the compound, may be in the group and using a different name, Marleigh Meisner, a spokeswoman for Texas Child Protective Services, said at a news conference Sunday.
............ 

Will this news affect the US elections? Can this news affect the conservative vote?

04-07-2008, 10:25 PM

QUOTEWill this news affect the US elections? Can this news affect the conservative vote? 
NO. No relation with election.

You will find lot of these type of cult all over US.

04-07-2008, 10:31 PM

Thanks for the clarification, Mudy.

04-08-2008, 02:09 AM

Polls: Race helps Clinton with whites 
Same is for Obama, being Black helped him in SC, MI, MO, MD
QUOTEPollsters have long expressed doubts about using polls to precisely gauge voters' feelings about the sensitive issue of race, concerned that some people give answers they think are socially acceptable.

The phenomenon even has a name, the Bradley effect, after Tom Bradley's losing 1982 run for California governor despite favorable polls, making him one of several prominent black candidates in the 1980s who did worse than surveys suggested. Critics argue that other factors could account for the discrepancies and say white voters' reluctance to support black candidates has diminished since then.

No one doubts some voters are influenced by a candidate's race. The pivotal questions this year are how many are abandoning Obama because he is black, and whether they are offset by others supporting him for racial reasons. Many of this year's primaries have already seen increased turnout among black and younger voters.

"We'd be foolish to say it's not a factor," Harvey Gantt, an Obama supporter who lost two senatorial races against Republican Jesse Helms in North Carolina in the 1990s, said of race.

But Gantt, who was the first black mayor of Charlotte, N.C., said he believes those voting for racial reasons can be offset by higher turnout among blacks and others eager to support a black candidate. He and others said fewer voters are letting a candidate's race outweigh their concerns about issues or political preferences.

04-08-2008, 06:30 AM

Must Watch -
Hillary Clinton: Mad As Hell/Bitch 

Very moving video, release before 11 April 2008 demonstration in front of NBC against disgusting misogynistic, sexist reporting by male dominated media of USA.

04-08-2008, 06:14 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/...her_race_s.html

QUOTEBack in 1988, I promulgated what I now call Cohen's Law of Racial Politics. It goes like this: In states where there are few African-Americans, the liberal candidate can win the white vote. In states where there are many African-Americans, the liberal candidate will lose the white vote. I forgot about my rule until Barack Obama came along. More and more, he seems haunted by the political ghost of Michael Dukakis.

I know, I know. Obama is an infinitely more talented politician than Dukakis -- more gifted, more exciting and, if you ask me, more needed. But just as Dukakis won the white vote only in states where there were significantly fewer blacks than the national average of 12.4 percent (New York was the lone exception), so has Obama usually taken the white vote in the same sort of states -- Wisconsin and Vermont, for example.

In states with substantial black populations -- Texas, Ohio, Tennessee, New Jersey -- the white vote went to Hillary Clinton. In Mississippi, she took 70 percent of the white vote while Obama got 92 percent of the black vote -- about as stark a racial split as you're likely to find.

Regardless of whether you favor Obama or Clinton (or John McCain), these are not happy numbers. Forty years to the month after the death of Martin Luther King, they suggest the durability of prejudice and the enduring centrality of race in American life. Obama is a political wunderkind, but as the results suggest, one man can only do so much.

It's easy enough to dismiss the contest between George H.W. Bush and Dukakis 20 years ago as having no bearing on this year's race. Bush was the sitting vice president and the election really amounted to a referendum on a third term for the popular Ronald Reagan. Then, too, Dukakis was an inept campaigner. If there is a single image from that campaign, it has to be the one of Dukakis, his head bobbing out of tank, looking terminally silly.

But there is yet another image to recall: Willie Horton. He was a convicted murderer who was given a weekend furlough from a Massachusetts prison and went on to rape a woman in Maryland. Dukakis had been governor of Massachusetts when Horton was furloughed. The Bush campaign seized on Horton and, in a powerful and repugnant commercial, ran his mug shot: a bearded black man. There it was in one nifty package -- race, crime and liberalism. It's a wonder Dukakis didn't stay in that tank.

From time to time, Obama is likened to John F. Kennedy -- both charismatic and inexperienced politicians when they launched their presidential campaigns. But Obama could be like Kennedy in another way as well. Kennedy was a Roman Catholic and none had ever been elected president. In the 1960 Wisconsin primary, he ran into a version of Cohen's Law. He won the state but did poorly in Protestant areas. A month later, he won in overwhelmingly (95 percent) Protestant West Virginia and did so because he bought a half-hour of TV time and confronted the religion issue head on. It was a landslide.

Maybe Obama's Philadelphia speech on race served the same purpose. The results from the upcoming primaries, particularly Pennsylvania, will tell. My guess is that he still has not put the race issue to rest -- maybe because he failed to do what Kennedy did in West Virginia. In that speech, Kennedy told Protestant West Virginians that when presidents took the oath of office, they were swearing to the separation of church and state. A president who breaks that oath is not only committing an impeachable offense, he said, "but he is committing a sin against God." In other words, he told West Virginians that their major fear was baseless.

Obama in his Philadelphia speech said nothing as dramatic. On the contrary, when it came to the perceived threat posed by young black men (one out of every nine in criminal custody), Obama built a fence around the issue by citing his grandmother's "fear of black men who passed her by on the street" -- suggesting it was comparable to what his former pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, had said. He did not confront white fears. Instead, he implied they were illegitimate.

This is not 1988 and much has changed. For one thing, the GOP nominee is going to be an aging foreign policy hawk with no coattails to run on. But if the upcoming Pennsylvania primary simply echoes earlier racial divisions, then Obama has to give yet another speech -- this one directed not at the pundits he so enthralls, but at the very people who have so far rejected him on account of race. Will it matter? John Kennedy proved a long time ago that it might.

04-08-2008, 09:21 PM

Media Channel shows in dramatic detail the incredible bias in news coverage between the candidates, the bias of positive vs. negative, the very pro Obama regarding race and the onslaught of negative regarding gender!!!

Check out especially pgs. 6 and 7.
It takes time to download..
http://www.mediachannel.org/USElection_080328.pdf

04-08-2008, 09:31 PM

Rajesh,
In this election race and gender bias is everywhere, I think after dust will settle, we may see wider rift between races and full fledge gender assault.
Calling a woman, Iron my shirt, Hose, etc had become fashionable, It was started by Obama camp and media mafia is riding on it with full throttle.
No one is referring Obama with plantation or nigger but everyone is free to say anything to Hillary.
I think race is very small issue; major issue is degradation or attack on female.
People are still voting for Obama and media is behind 100%. Hillary had difficult time convincing man to vote for her. 100% black man think woman canât be President, 30% white man thinks same. Blacks have more resentment towards white or they are more racist
[This is based on phone call feedback for campaign not via any media]
I am studying data myself.

here is one example
<img src='http://www.darkworks.org/hillary-kfc.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

04-09-2008, 12:22 AM

QUOTESuburban Trustee Ticketed For 'Racist' Monkey Comment
Excerpts:
CARPENTERSVILLE, Ill. (WBBMSTNG) - Barack Obama's campaign reportedly has persuaded a delegate to step down after calling her neighbor's African-American children "monkeys" in scolding them for climbing a tree.
Carpentersville village trustee, Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski was elected as an Obama delegate to the Democratic National Convention.
On Saturday, she told two neighbor children to stop playing in a tree next to her house.
Ramirez-Sliwinski admits she used the word "monkeys," but said she did not intend racism. She said she was only trying to protect them from falling out of the tree.
The Chicago Sun-Times reports that Barack Obama's campaign felt her remarks were "divisive and unacceptable" and persuaded her to step aside as a delegate.
Ramirez-Sliwinski was charged with disorderly conduct after making the allegedly racist remark.

dhu · (This post was last modified: 04-09-2008, 10:38 AM by dhu.)

QUOTEIn this election race and gender bias is everywhere, I think after dust will settle, we may see wider rift between races and full fledge gender assault.

The real American civic religion is race. American grand narrative is racial but it is meant to subsume the more basic gender and anti-child biases and fears. They believe woman and children are 'irrational' in essential way (in american parlance, blacks are children).

These guys have been at forefront of projecting their own neuroses and stereotypical thinking on Asian societies.

This race highlights the western stereotypical thinking and may reach breaking point. It is fundamentally opposed to sensory and interpretative thinking of asians.

04-09-2008, 09:31 PM

QUOTEThey believe woman and children are 'irrational' in essential way (in american parlance, blacks are children).
Very much identitical to Islamic thinking.

If you listen to genius Kerry , you will understand how much racist they are and check his or elite thinking process.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T71c2FXsbEw

04-10-2008, 09:46 PM

Tomorrow, makesure to check 8 am NBC channel and enjoy peaceful protest.
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/april11/
Join The Protest Against
Media Bias, Hate Speech &
Voter Suppression! 

New York City
Friday, April 11 (8am), 2008
West 48th St & Rockefeller Plaza

USA ask for democracy and monitor election worldwide, my suggestion to them first fix your own house. <!--emo& Big Grin

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ramana · 04-10-2008, 11:20 PM

Dhu, Have you been watching the cults/sects arrest in Texas? looks like the charges are based on children' safety laws but the media doesn't go into the fundamental/root cause of these sects. There is something Biblical in this whole mess that Muhammed goes and marries a child and the same is going on in West Texas in the 21st century.

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