Dalits - Real Issues & Discussion

[Husky]

<!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+Apr 13 2008, 06:41 PM-->QUOTE(k.ram @ Apr 13 2008, 06:41 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->1,000 Dalit Christians to reconvert to Hinduism in TN

<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->CHENNAI: Thousand members who belong to Dalit Christian community will officially get reconverted into Hinduism on Monday in Tirunelveli town in a colourful function being organized by Hindu Monks Tamil Nadu Council.

This event gains significance in the backdrop March 9 police shootout in which two people were killed when clashes broke out between the members of upper caste Catholics and Dalit Catholics.

Speaking to TOI, Hindu Makkal Katchi (HMK) president Arjun Sampath said: "185 families of Dalit Christians will formally return to Hinduism. All of them hail from the interior villages of Tirunelveli district. This event is being organized on the occasion of Ambedkar’s birthday."

HMK had earlier tried to hold the event at Nellayappar temple in Tirunelveli. However, the <b>HR&CE</b> department which governs the temple refused permission saying that the temple premises could not be used for such purposes.<i>{WTF!}</i>
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]80624[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->HR(&)CE "Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments Department" is the state's famous anti-Hindu organisation.

Searching IF on "HR&CE" and "HRCE" show the department's anti-Hinduism. Things it's famous for:

HRCE likes forcibly moving Swamigals to other states and threatening them:
http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=74165
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Government designs on the Kumbakonam Mutt.</b>
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[Junior Eagle:]“That’s right. Word is going around that the <b>HRCE</b>, which has taken hold of the Mutt is trying to forcibly kick out Neelakanta Swamigal. VHP people and a whole lot of devotees thronged in front of the Mutt on Maatu-Pongal day [Jan. 15th]

“We don’t want to kick him out or anything. Swami himself wants to go to Bangalore. He said he wants to stay a few days to do special pujas and then go back,” the <b>HRCE</b> officials said.
[...]

“Whatever it is, let us hear it from him in person – Bring him out!” the crowd chanted. Finally they brought the Swamigal to the gate.”

“So what on earth did Neelakanda Swami say?”

[Junior Eagle:]“Even though they brought him out and stood him at the gate. They wouldn’t let anyone get near enough to talk to him. From far away, the devotees shouted out at the top of their lungs:

“Swami! They say you want to go to Bangalore?”

To which, Swamigal replied in his mother tongue, Kannada:
“I don’t want to go anywhere anytime soon!” and he went back inside.

[...]
This had already angered devotees – on the same day, Secretary of the Mutt, Handi died of a heart attack [Ed: that’s right, the same day <b>HRCE</b> officers presumably dropped the Mataadipathi off at his house.], increasing their anger.

“Handi was already very perturbed by the Mutt issue” [ie <b>HRCE</b>’s takeover of the Mutt]. “That was the reason for his heart attack. The Government is going to have to answer for all this,” say furious [devotees].
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http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=63621
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>No Brahmins to run temples</b>

Chennai, Jan 26: The DMK government headed by chief
minister M. Karunanidhi, well known for his atheist views, has ensured
that no Brahmin is appointed as trustee in any of the major temples
across Tamil Nadu. Perhaps this is the first time that the
community, closely identified with priesthood, has been so comprehensively
kept out of temple administration. While the norms that a dalit and a
woman should be accommodated in the five-member temple committees have
been followed, the state <b>Hindu Religious and Charitable  Endowments
Department (HR&CE)</b>, which administers most of the temples
in Tamil Nadu, has ensured that the Brahmins are kept out of these
prestigious positions.

The famous places of worship, including Madurai Meenakshi temple, Rameswaram Ramanathaswamy temple, Palani Dandayuthapani temple, Tiruchendur Subramania Swamy temple and Mylai Kapaleeswarar temple, do not have a Brahmin as arangaavalar in the administrating committees.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=79581
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Armed with an order of the <b>Hindu Religious and Charitable Endowments (HR&CE)</b> Department and supported by activists of a human rights group, Arumugasamy had attempted to recite the hymns at the main shrine of the temple.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=79222
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Dikshitars have a case. They dont say that no thevaram should be recited there. They say that according to the prescribed worship protocol, it cannot be recited from the Chitrambala dais. Othuvar Arumugaswami insists that he would render it only from the dais.

The matter went to the court, which directed the government to find a solution. Accordingly the Government considered the matter and endorsed the view of the Asst Commissioner of <b>HR&CE</b>. It was decided that the othuvar can recite it in the temple.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(Chidambaram Natarajan kovil incident. Motivated media keeps lying about how supposedly 'only Samskritam shlokas' are allowed to be recited. The truth is that Tamil vocals are also of prime importance in the Kovil. See S.V. Badri's article on Chidambaram titled "Facts you won't get to read in our secular media")

The remaining two IF posts that I could find mentioning the anti-Hindu HR&CE:
http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=27524
and
http://www.india-forum.com/forums/index.ph...indpost&p=72354

Is it any wonder it would treat the returning Hindus in this way. Of course HR&CE doesn't want converts to return to their Hindu Dharma. And it therefore bans them from getting Shuddhi in Hindu temples.



About a different bit in the article posted by K.Ram:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Further, those who want to follow Saiva cult would be given bhasmam (sacred ash) and a string of rudraksha while the vaishnavite converts would be given namam (tilak) and a string of tulsi.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What about the ones who want to have Vishnu AND Shiva? This is TN, so they can easily have both - most TN people do. That this option is available must be made clear to them. In fact, I bet they also want to have Devi. You see, I know the Thamizh (Hindu) mind intimately <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And what if their ancestors were followers of Ayappa or Murugan as many Hindus of TN are? Or Ganapathi? Let them know all our Gods and then let them grow in the direction of their inner choosing, like how plants naturally grow towards the sacred Sun. Hindus are not limited as to choice and actually need not even choose...

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Dalit Christians who return to Hindu fold would also be given a mantra deeksha (formal initiation) both in Sanskrit and Tamil.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->This is brilliant. In one fell swoop getting them initiated back into both their Mother and Father language. Our languages are part of our umbilical cord to Hindu Dharma.
<!--emo&:clapping--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/clap.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='clap.gif' /><!--endemo--> Jai Chamundeshwari

[Guest]

Thanks Husky!

[Guest]

Came in email
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Casteism in Christianity and Rule of  the Church

Date / Time : -  Friday , 6 June, 2008  at 2.30pm

Venue :-  India Islamic Cultural  Centre, 87 – 88 , Lodhi Road , New Delhi - 110003

Poor Christian Liberation Movement ( PCLM) has arranged a National Convention on various problems of Dalit Christians and their security and present position and also the concept of “ Casteism in Christianity and Rule of  the Church “. President of Movement and other leaders will address the National Convention.


Delegates from :-

Punjab , Haryana ,Delhi , Utter Pardesh, Tamil Nadu , Andhra Pradesh, Gujrat, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand , Madhya Pradesh and other parts of the country are participating in the Convention .



Kindly attend the National Convention.

Thanking you.

Yours Sincerely
Fr.William Premdas Chaudhary
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[acharya]

US-based honcho comes headhunting for Dalits again
Suman K Jha
Posted online: Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 2338 hrs Print Email

New Delhi, May 2: Michael Thevar is an unlikely headhunter. He wants a bunch of young IT pros for his US consultancy firm. Liberal compensations are assured, so are H-1 visas. A number of CVs have already landed from Mumbai’s Veermata Jijabai Technological Institute (VJTI), Nagpur University and even Chennai. Thevar has one condition, though: “only Dalits need apply”.


“Class I officers and their families are a no-no. It’s mostly first-generation educated youth who might have spent their childhood in slums or shanties that I’m interested in,” says Thevar. Certain Tamil Nadu districts are notorious for Dalit-Thevar (an OBC community) clashes, but Michael’s parents migrated to Karnataka much before his birth. Born to a Catholic mother and Hindu father, his parents ensured that he went to an English-medium school, even if it meant cutting on their two square meals a day.

Michael went to the Tata Institute of Social Sciences for his Masters before proceeding to the USA that facilitated his growth as an entrepreneur. The social work graduate worked as a “clinical services manager” before founding his own firm, Temp Solutions Inc, a healthcare firm, in 2000. His firm now clocks a turnover of $12 million.

The health professionals that he got attached to various US hospitals were MSWs (Masters in Social Work) or even MAs in psychology. After having recruited 20 Dalit health professionals, with another 30 in the pipeline, the Pennsylvania-based entrepreneur now wants Dalits to ride the IT boom.

A sprightly bunch of young Dalit engineers, sharing his vision of Dalit entrepreneurship, is helping him with the scanning process. Nitin Salve has a B Tech from VJTI and an MBA from Jamnalal Bajaj Institute. His friend, Mangesh Dahiwale, another VJTI alumnus, was a rank holder in civil services. Priyadarshi Telang did his BE from Nagpur University and worked with the Visakhapatnam Steel Plant. Driven by Ambedkar’s vision, the trio quit their 9-to-6 jobs to work for the Dalit cause. Working with a Pune NGO, they now network with various Dalit organisations.

It was another Dalit scholar from IIT-Bombay who had helped Thevar reach out to the Dalits. “A PhD scholar, Lalit Khandare, inspired me to recruit Dalits for my organisation. He then put out ads in Samrat and Mahanayak—two Marathi dailies that take up Dalit issues. Various online Dalit communities were involved and we got many suitable applicants,” recalls Thevar. Many slum-born kids on his team now earn $ 40,000 a year.

His workforce in the US has an interesting spread of states and religions. Most of the Indian recruits are from Maharashtra, UP and Tamil Nadu. Half of them are Buddhists, a couple of them are Catholics, while the rest are “non-practising Hindus.”

“I was baptized during my school days, but more than religion, education and efficiency in English language are a Dalit’s passport to a secure future,” says Thevars. The BTechs and MBAs assisting him in his mission only reinforce this.

[acharya]

Time is with Dalits


With the dawn of the new millennium, three new developments have started in India and all are linked closely. First, liberalisation has boosted industrialisation. Second, due to this, several caste neutral occupations have come into being. Third, India is experiencing largescale urbanisation.

All the new developments are poised against the caste order. Agrarianism is home to the caste order as the system came into being in such a set up. By definition, urban India is a new territory, and the caste order cannot function as effectively as it does in agrarian India. It is not that Hindus, who dominate the caste order, wish to abandon the system. For them, life is uneasy without the hierarchical caste order. However, as the saying goes, "If wishes were horses.." Urbanisation fights the caste order system on its own without any person's efforts and, therefore, Dalits, who settle in such an atmosphere, experience great relief.

But, considering the educational qualifications of Dalits, where would they be able to fit in the new economy and urban centres? Even their economic conditions are not favourable raising a question about them gaining entry into the emerging markets. As Governments are no more interested in integrating Dalits in the new economy, how would they be able to turn industrialisation and urbanisation in their favour?

There are two situations that favour Dalits. First, the urban economy creates certain opportunities that the traditionally dominant caste members do not embrace. All such opportunities are better than working for landlords in rural and suburban areas. For instance, in the past year, over a million new vehicles started plying on Indian roads. This means, a million new jobs of drivers and another million as their assistants. There are hundreds of such occupations that do not require any educational degree but only manpower. This is an opportunity that Dalits can cash on.

In the second situation, Dalits hold little land and have insignificant assets in rural areas. This gives them the freedom of migrating to urban areas instead of being tied to the agrarian centres. Not only do urban areas give them livelihood, they also save them from undergoing humiliation that they face otherwise in rural areas.

Urban centres are the greatest educators. Dalits, who migrate to such places, refuse to return to their native places and make trips only to visit family members and relatives. Even the newfound 'affluence' is demonstrated during such visits. By working in urban centres they realise the meaning of dignity and freedom. They see a new employee-employer relationship that is more democratic than what exists in the countryside. There have been a number of instances in villages I have visited, where urban Dalit youths have entered in a conflict with dominant castes.

Such Dalit youths can no longer tolerate offensive social conducts of their ex-landlords. They instead inspire their family members, relatives and community members to assert. In my judgment, no social movement makes Dalits as assertive as the experience in living in urban centres.

However, mere urbanisation is not enough as most Dalits would just land in low-paying jobs. A new campaign is needed in which the urban Dalit-proletariats ought to prepare future generations to acquire necessary education and professional skills to succeed in the new economy, with the most important being learning English and other soft skills.

The major question is, who will carry this message to Dalits who work in urban centres? Since 1990, when I left the university to work amongst Dalits, I have seen all energies, resources and time being wasted in preparing memorandums to be submitted to Governments. Not many Dalit politicians, activists, or scholars can claim a major right they have won for the community -- except probably the Supplier Diversity programme conceived in the Bhopal Conference. Dalits, since 1990, have not been able to even protect rights won by Baba Saheb Dr Ambedkar.

Even though time is on Dalits' side, their leadership is clueless. The Dalit movement is not certain which direction it needs to go, even ideologically.

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dear All:

I am pleased to announce that we are organizing an International Convention of Dalits and Minorities at New York, USA on July 4th 2008 to July 6th 2008 at Marriott Hotel.

Mr. Ram Vilas Paswan will chair the convention while Dr. K.P. Singh and Dr. A.S. Nakedar will be the Co-Chairs. This convention is being organized to discuss problems faced by Indian minorities and Dalits and find amicable solutions. There are many important dignitaries who have already consented to grace the occasion and attend the convention. You are invited to attend the convention. If you are sure to be part of this historic occasion, please let us know ASAP as we are in the process of finalizing the program.


Sincerely,

Dr. KP Singh
Co-Chair
ICDM-New York
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Can someone explain me Why they have to do this conference in US?

[Pandyan]

Hiding from evil Hindoo fundoomintilishts.

[Guest]

I have observed dalit politics closely at the student level . One thing that I have noticed is that, Dalits no longer want "behalfism". they want to stand on their feet and back leaders from their own denomination.

This of course a positive development and shows a move towards maturity in the dalit political milieu. sooner than later accountability politics will begin, as the cadre would no longer be able to blame a behalfist for failing the social agenda.

of course this is an intermediate stage and once people start becoming confident about their identity the gradual re-induction of leaders from other castes will begin. In fact this is actually happening , albeit in a very small way, in some parts of the country.

[Guest]

Dalit women crank camera to showcase life
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> Under the banner of the Community Media Trust, the collective of women farmers from the State, launched their multimedia publication here on Monday. Titled ‘Affirming Life and Diversity: Rural Images and Voices on Food Sovereignty,’ the series comprises films that emerged from an action research project on sustaining local food systems, agricultural biodiversity and livelihoods supported by the International Institute for Environment and Development, United Kingdom.

The Community Media Trust, affiliated to the Deccan Development Society, was created to document the struggle, the images and the voices of rural women. Society director P.V. Satheesh said the 12 video films made by the mostly illiterate women, who were given a six-month training, traced the experience of women in regaining their autonomy over food production, seeds, natural resources, and markets.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Title should be -
<b>Dalit kills Upper caste man.</b>
Anonymous letter triggers 'honour killing' in Punjab village
Pioneer.com
Gagandeep Ahuja | Patiala
Punjab Police on Sunday arrested Sarabjit Singh who allegedly killed his sister and brother-in-law at Gajjukhera village near Banur in the district on Saturday. Their only fault they loved each other but belonged to different castes. 

Police sources said that Sarabjit Singh surrendered before the police late on Saturday night. He had confessed his crime and said that somebody from the village had given a letter to him that her sister was pregnant and he will become mama very soon. The letter infuriated him so much that he committed the crime, he told the investigating officer. The accused said that he had committed the crime in a fit of rage.

The couple's gruesome killing once again points to the grim reality that tolerance for inter-caste marriages in rural Punjab is still very low. Punjab also has the dubious distinction of having lowest female sex ratio in the country due to female foeticide prevailing in rural areas.

Salwinder Kaur, <b>a Dalit from same village, had fallen in love with Suresh Kumar, a Khatri boy two years back. </b>While the deceased boy, Suresh Kumar, died on the spot, the girl succumbed to her injuries at the Post-Graduate Institute of Medical Education and Research (PGIMER) at Chandigarh.

Though their marriage had led to tension in the village between both the communities for some time, <b>ever since their return both had been staying with the family of the boy without any trouble</b>.

The couple had earlier approached the Punjab and Haryana High Court to solemnise their wedding. They had, however, later refused to get police protection believing that things have settled.
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[Guest]

<b>Dalits enter temple for first time, offer pooja</b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Three hundred Dalit men and women from an Adi Dravidar colony entered the centuries old Draupathi Amman temple at Kandampatti near here for the first time and offered prayers.

The temple, which was closed down by the administration about two months ago following a clash between Dalits and the dominant group of Vanniyars, who have been claiming that the temple belongs to them, was opened yesterday following a Madras High Court order.

The Dalits, escorted by police, prayed at the temple in the presence of officials from the revenue and Hindu Charitable and Religious Endowments (HR&CE) departments.

The Vanniyars, as a mark of protest, left their homes with their families and took asylum at nearby Chitharkoil.

The court had issued the order on a petition filed by leader of Dalit outfit Viduthalai Chiruthaigal Katchi (VCK), Thol Thirumavalavan.

Inside the temple, VCK activists raised slogans in praise of their leader, who they claimed had taken the initiative to ensure that Dalits entered the temple.
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Good start. <!--emo&:cool--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/specool.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='specool.gif' /><!--endemo-->

[Bharatvarsh]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dalit converts to Islam suspects in A'bad blasts
14 Sep 2008, 0432 hrs IST,TNN

AHMEDABAD: Mohammed Umar Kabira is actually Ashokbhai Kalabhai on the payrolls of the Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation (AMC). He is among those picked up by the crime branch from Juhapura in connection with the July 26 serial bomb blasts in Ahmedabad.

A Dalit, Kabira converted to Islam five years ago and works as a manhole cleaner with AMC. He was released on Friday night after being in custody for 38 days, only to be called back on Saturday morning. Police has assured his wife Sumaiya (formerly Parulben) that he would return on Monday.

Sumaiya became a Muslim only after Kabira threatened to divorce her. When she finally converted, the couple changed the names of their children too - Shweta to Kulsum, Saloni to Taslim, Khushbu to Maria and Akash to Abdullah. Police has stumbled upon new conversion cases during the course of their probe.

This seems to have been inspired by Abu Bakar, born in a Dalit family as Jivanbhai Ramjibhai. Bakar works as a masonry contractor and used to convince other Dalits to embrace Islam.

While Kabira embraced Islam soon after the 2002 Gujarat riots, his brother Kishore, also an AMC employee, became a Muslim only a year ago on his brother's insistence. He has changed his name to Zafar. "Now, even our relatives who are still Hindus are ridiculing our decision," said Zafar whose wife Geeta is now Ameena and son Sachin now called Yusuf.

The crime branch has claimed before metropolitan court while seeking remand of the accused that SIMI members were involved in conversions and they indoctrinated these new converts into Jihad. Abdul Rehman Shaikh (earlier Jayanti Parmar) is another person who remained in police custody for a while after the blasts. Shaikh, a scrap dealer who shifted from Shahpur to Juhapura after embracing Islam, was picked up by the crime branch on August 12 and released after seven days.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Cities/...how/3480940.cms<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Guest]

Khairlanji verdict in.

http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14758325

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A trial court on Monday convicted eight of the 11 accused on charges of killing four members of a Dalit family in Khairlanji village of Bhandara district. <b>Three people were acquitted after the court deduced that the killings were not the result of caste atrocity.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1189986

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>According to the Bhandara Social Welfare Department, post-Khairlanji, the claims on the monetary compensation given to victims of caste-related crimes has risen four-fold.</b>

The state government pays compensations to victims of caste violence under the Prevention of Atrocities Act, 1989, and 50 per cent of the amount is released at the time of the complaint being filed. The compensation ranges from Rs25,000 to Rs2 lakh depending on the nature of the crime.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Shambhu]

Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati was a Dalit. Our psecs will point out repeatedly how the "upper castes" are oppressing the Dalits. Here "upper caste" BJP, "brahminical" RSS/VHP..all of these are honoring the deceased Dalit Swami. They are doing their best to get answers about his murder.

"Dalitistan" master Southern Baptists who are trying to convert India to the christocult, even hard core psecs will find it hard to fall for your lies in days to come.

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The man, his death, and the madness
25/09/2008 12:07:47


Author: Debabrata Mohanty

Source: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/the-man-...adness/364980/2



Jalespeta (Kandhamal), September 23 The ramshackle wooden gate that used to swing open for visitors to the ashram no longer stands wide open. There is a deceptive calm in the air as more than half-a-dozen CRPF men wielding AK-47s and INSAS rifles stare at every visitor to the Shankaracharya Kanyashram at Jalespeta in Kandhamal with suspicion. Gaunt sal trees dotting the picturesque mountainous landscape only add to the atmosphere.

A month after the killing of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati, as Orissa continues to reel under a spiral of violence, the Kanyashram where the 84-year-old was gunned down along with three of his associates and the guardian of a girl inmate has fallen silent. The room in which the massacre happened on August 23 is locked. Outside sits a garlanded photograph of Saraswati. While students in saffron frocks and shirts go about their daily routine, the usual hubbub is missing from the ashram, which is a residential Sanskrit school for poor tribal girls.

The 199 girl students from the five tribal-dominated districts of Kandhamal, Gajapati, Raygada, Koraput and Kalahandi and the managers of the ashram are outraged over the police “inaction” and inability to hunt down his killers. “People in the entire district considered him a gharara loka (our own man). If only the former SP had provided adequate security, his life would have perhaps been saved. It’s natural that everyone is angry with the police and the administration,” says Kabichandra Nath, an associate of Saraswati and the new man in-charge of the Kanyashram.

<b>Laxmanananda, a Dalit</b>, first came to Jalespeta in Tumudibandha block in 1989, almost two decades after he arrived at Chakapada, his first port of call in the same district. Though Chakapada remained the focus of his anti-proselytisation and anti-cow slaughter activities, he slowly restricted himself to Jalespeta Kanyashram, devoting himself to the better management of the residential school.

“In a region where illiteracy and school dropout rate are high, he managed to get them interested in studies,” says Simanchal Pattnaik, a local journalist. His focus was not just education of women, says Pattnaik, but also the merits of multi-crop cultivation, animal care and horticulture.

It was this “do-gooder” image that had endeared him to everybody in the area. “If anyone had any grievance, Swamiji would be at his house in no time offering solution and consolation. He was like the patriarch of the area,” says Nath.

Admitting that he was hugely popular among the tribals, a senior official adds that this was one of the reasons for the tribal outburst following his killing.

Agile even in his 80s, Laxmanananda’s day used to start at 4 am, a practice he inculcated among the tribal inmates of the ashram. Most of them came from peasant families with little subsistence. He taught them the Vedas, Ramacharit Manas and yoga, which he thought would make them well-rounded personalities. “He even taught us things like milching a cow,” said Manjulata Kanhar of Dalpada village and now a student of Madhyama (secondary) class. Others like Kamalini Kanhar of Rabingia village in Phiringia block reminisce how Laxmanananda used to teach inmates to be “good Hindu women”. “He hated procrastination. If he had to do something he would do it then and there,” says Nath.

To the girl inmates of Kanyashram, Laxmanananda was more like a doting grandfather known for his deep sense of empathy and affection. In the attacks on Christians unleashed since Laxmanananda’s death — with Orissa seen as doing little to contain them — that image is receding ironically fast..
http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx...eID=7137&SKIN=B

[Guest]

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Woman alleges molestation by SC/ST DU staff </b>
Pioneer.com
Staff Reporter | New Delhi
A 26-year-old woman has claimed that the Delhi University's SC/ST Union propaganda secretary allegedly molested her on Wednesday night in the Maurice Nagar area of north Delhi. The woman has also alleged that the accused has been continuously threatening her and her family members as she had brought the matter to the notice of the RWA members.

Senior police officials said that the woman had lodged a complaint against the accused and the matter was being investigated. According to the police, the incident happened in a jhuggi area in front of the Delhi University flats.

<b>Police officials said that the victim, Rekha (name changed), approached them on Friday and stated that one Rajesh Kumar has been threatening her. "She alleged that on Wednesday night around 11 pm Rajesh Kumar crept inside her house and slept next to her.</b>

He allegedly molested her under the influence of alcohol after which she raised an alarm.

<b>On hearing her cries, her husband and brother-in-law caught hold of Rajesh and thrashed him," said a police official.</b>

The matter was later brought to the notice of the RWA. Members of the RWA had helped Rajesh and the victim's family to strike a compromise. Rekha informed the police that even after the settlement, Rajesh had been threatening her.

A senior police official said that a complaint has been received and a case of molestation will be registered against the accused.

He added that an extra copy of the complaint has been forwarded to Tejinder Khanna, Lieutenant Governor of Delhi. Investigations are on.

The police have launched a manhunt to nab the culprit.
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Now the culprit is SC/ST so it is alleges, if it is upper caste, hell will break.

[Husky]

<!--QuoteBegin-Shambhu+Sep 26 2008, 02:39 AM-->QUOTE(Shambhu @ Sep 26 2008, 02:39 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati was a Dalit.[right][snapback]88463[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Shambhu, that's christo psyops lingo which the psecular media employs. Harijan is what Hindu communities tend to use for themselves. Best to refer to Hindus as Harijan or, in normal circumstances, just plain Hindus (since what does it matter to you/IF or me).

In the sense that Brahmana also has the meaning of one who has realised Brahman (a primary meaning), Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati is a Brahmana.
Otherwise, Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati just like Kanchi Shankaracharya and the other Acharyas specifically do not have a Varna, neither do they identify with any region, nor do they have a jati or even any smaller unit of community. They are beyond all those things, and represent/belong to all Hindus and all Bharatam.



Not actually related, but the following deserves to go somewhere - and a thread mentioning Swami is at least as good as anywhere else:
Hindunet
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->...in one of the publications of Rama Krishna Mission...

vritten hi bhavatyaryo na dhanen na viddya
Mahabharata 5-90-53

The essence is:It is the right Attitude which denotes Arya
rather than Knowledge or wealth.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->For confirmation, I hunted down its context -
Pritha (Kunti) utters it - here with reference to Vidura:
http://www.bharatadesam.com/spiritual/maha...arata_05090.php
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><i>Neither by learning, nor by wealth doth one become worthy of homage. It is by disposition alone</i> that one becomes respectable, O Krishna, endued with great intelligence and profound wisdom, the character of the illustrious Vidura, like unto an ornament (that he wears) adorns the whole world.'<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Shambhu]

Husky, yes, I know, I just wrote Dalit because it was written in the article. Should have put it in quotes..

[Husky]

Yeah I figured <!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Just meant to write that sometimes words matter, that's all. Especially since only christoislamaniac terrorists use 'dalit' for themselves. Whereas Swami bravely stood up to the evil ideology of christoislamania.

[Guest]

<b>Dalit – Precept, Problem and Politics</b>

<i>Published in “Dimensions of Conversion”, the Vivekananda Kendra Patrika, Vol. 24, Feb. 1995, pp. 98-114.</i>

<b>Introduction:</b> The issue of “Dalit” identity in social, economic and political context has become so important nowadays, that it has been affecting the thinking processes of all opinion making and decision taking authorities in India. Even though, originally, it was a social problem, now it has attained significance resulting in far-fetching consequences in deciding the future of Indian polity. The handling of “Dalit” issue is very sensitive, as it is like a double-edged weapon, which may affect the person against whom it is used and as well as the person who uses it. Moreover, it is extremely delicate to deal, as it may always has ended in emotional conflicts, leading to unexpected results. Before entering into the study of “Dalit” problem, the background of it should be understood thoroughly.

Undoubtedly, the word “Dalit” has attained the prominence, only during the last one decade or even lesser than that period. But, the political exploitation of such concept can be traced back to the Muslim and British periods. The fact that the expressions “untouchables” and “untouchability” were first coined and started to be used by the British can be seen from their Census documents1. As the issue of “Dalit” involves caste and untouchability, all factors behind should also be studied with care and attention.

<b>Untouchability:</b> As the social scientists got familiarization with the expressions “untouchables” and “untouchability” through the British, the other word “caste” has been introduced to them by the Portuguese with due blessings of Europeans writers2. The description, explanation and exposition given to the concept of “caste” have completely distorted and even tarnished the concept of “Varnashrama dharma” of Hindu religion or Sanathana dharma. Nowadays, the “Dalit” writers have started equating even the very expression “Sanathana” with racism and fascism. Similarly the explanations given to “untouchables” and “untouchability” have contorted the social stratification of Indian society based on economic and political conditions of the traditional factors. Then comes the concept of “Dalit” and its ramifications with complications.

The Origin of the word “Dalit”: The origin is definitely Sanskrit, initially used by the Marathi and Hindi writers in adjective form to describe the “Harijans”, as dalit, dhukit, pidit, pichde logon etc. to denote depressed, sorrowful, broken, affected, backward peoples. Gandhiji used the expression “Harijans” to denote Scheduled Caste Hindus considering their pitiable state and conditions of untouchability. By using such expression, perhaps, he clearly sent signals to the divisive British and Muslim groups that they belonged to Hindu society, and therefore, they had no business to meddle with the social processes of Hindu society. Accordingly, though he condemned the practice of untouchability, but upheld the Varnashrama dharma system, clearly explaining the difference between the so-called modern caste system and Varnashrama dharma3.

The Role of Muslims and British: As pointed out, prior to the advent of the British, nobody thought of “untouchability”, even though such practice was definitely followed. Though, the affected communities, definitely revolted against the ill-treatment meted out, many times, they compromised with their disabilities. With the success of implanting the minority consciousness in the minds of Muslims, the British writers cleverly decided to divide the Hindu society. They recognized Muslims as a distinct entity by giving separate electorate in 1909. In the year, 1910, the Census Commissioner of India chose to divide the Hindu population into:

(i) Hindus,
(ii) Animists and
(iii) depressed classes or untoucables.

Previously, the division was always based on religion. Of course, the Muslims also aided and abetted with the British collaborators. By pointing out the differences among the Hindus and sowing the seeds by mooting the idea that tribals were different from the caste Hindus, in their address to Lord Minto, the then Viceroy of India. B. R. Ambedkar himself has pointed out this important fact4. The Muslims wantonly suggested that in calculating the numerical strength of Hindus, the tribals, animists and untouchables should be excluded. Here, it may be mentioned that initially Muslims tried to convert the High Caste Hindus, particularly, Brahmins by force, lure of power and compulsory marriages or better understood as “sham marriages” 5. Though almost, all Muslim rulers followed this practice, it was at pest during the reign of Akbar6. But, the Brahmins took serous action immediately by excommunicating such families and rewriting / amending the Dharma Shasatras, which resulted in many sociological implications. Particularly, the latter method led to different conclusions to arrive at by the scholars in deciding the date of such works and as well as know about the ancient society of India. As they failed with the Brahmins, they turned their attention towards other castes. The experiment with Rajaputs and other royal castes also resulted in unfavourable political and social conditions. Again, it may be mentioned that it was during this period, the practice of sati was perhaps revived or introduced. Somehow, they could not match with the business communities, as they themselves were originally engaged in commercial activities. Thus, finally they turned their guns towards the lower strata of Hindu society. They cleverly used the Sufi movement for this purpose7. Accordingly they tried some sort of “Inculturation” – methods with the new converts, which were subsequently opposed by the Muslim fundamentalists8. A careful study of Jizya clearly exposes the tactics of conversion (Tabligh movements) of Muslim rulers.

Anybody can even now notice that it is the lower strata of Hindu society, which strongly protects and spreads Hinduism than the higher strata, by way of visiting various temples and holy places regularly and periodically according to tradition instead of convenience, conducting festivals and performing traditional pujas in all villages. That is why “Jizya rulers” specifically affected them, as they could not use horses for pilgrimages, wear saffron robes prominently, take their women-folk with them even though it was mandatory according to their custom and tradition, use of ghats, ponds, and other holy waters and so on. Therefore it is not all a new tactics for the Muslims to create dissensions within Hindu society by their crooked methods. Only, the change was that they used the British to perform their game9.

Determination of Untouchability: Therefore inspired by the suggestion of the Muslims, the Census Commissioner of India in 1911 tried to differentiate Hindus and non-Hindus other than Muslims and Christians. He issued a circular10 with the following criteria to effect such division among those who were not 100% Hindus were included – “Castes and tribes” – which –

1. deny the supremacy of the Brahmans
2. do not receive the manthras from a Brahmana or other recognized Hindu guru
3. deny the authority of Vedas
4. do not worship the Hindu gods
5. are not served by good Brahmans as family priests
6. have no Brahmana priests at all
7. are denied access to the interior of Hindu temples
8. cause pollution (i) by touch or (ii) within a certain distance
9. bury their dead and
10. eat beef and do not show reverence to the cow.

Evidently the conditions framed were rater more anti-Brahmanic than anti-Hindu as at that time they themselves wrote many books about the various facets of Hindu society. Slowly they stopped using the word “untouchability” or “untouchables” and prefer to use “exterior caste”.

Then, they also used the expression “depressed castes”. It is in vogue between 1920 and 1935. In Tamilnadu as early as in 1857, the expression “Adi Dravidar” was used to denote lower castes. Similar expressions “Adi Andhras” and “Adi Karanatakas” were used by their counterparts in Andrapradesh and Karnataka regions. Thus, though “Harijans” was the glorified term used by Gandhiji in 1933 for them, the term “Scheduled caste” was the expression first invented by the Simon Commission11. However, in recent times, all caste organizations and politicians are prepared to use the term “Dalit” as there have been converted Christians and Muslims from the Hindu religion and they do not want to use the label of “Harijan” as it definitely denotes to the people of Hindu origin.

Print and electronic media’s role: Therefore the media persons particularly the journalists with the support of Christian and Muslim lobbies preferred to use very often the adjective word “Dalit” as noun to denote SCs or Harijans. Here, they tactfully used the word to include the converts from Hindu religion to Christianity and Islam also, though legally (Constitutionally) it is incorrect. Thus, from Marathi or Hindi writings the word has been picked up and started to be used by other journalists in English dailies. Dr. Ambedkar also said to have switched over to this word, as he did not want to use the terminology of Gandhiji.

<b>Political usage:</b> Later, politicians also started to use this word at political meetings at villages and rural areas to attract them. as the SCs / Harijans wanted to have a new name for them, because of changing times, they also preferred to be called as “Dalits”, instead of the old names. In fact, in Tamilnadu, they still prefer to use “Adi Dravidar”, “Dravidar” and even “Paraiyar” 12, as they have reservations about the use of Sanskrit / Hindi word “Dalit”. But, as their leaders started to understand the political significance of the word, they have slowly started to accept it, and it may not be denied that the editor V. T. Rajasekhara Shetty of “Dalit Voice” popularized the word in the South in selected circles. However, the interesting feature is the over-enthusiastic usage of the word “Dalit” by the Christian organizations of various hues and colours. Muslims have also started to use it.

Perhaps, Muslims of Maharastra started to use it. Then, “Dalit Muslims” became popular with the starting of organizations with “Dalit” banner like “Dalit Muslim Suraksha Samiti” by the notorious-smuggler-turned-social worker Haji Mastan of Bombay. After the Meenakshipuram episode, some Muslims have openly started using the expression, even though most of the Muslims do not want to use it, as according to the concept of “Islam”, they cannot have “Caste”.

<b>Christian Missionaries manipulations:</b> The manipulations of Christian missionaries are discussed as follows, as they have vested interests.

<b>Christianity, caste and untouchability:</b> In spite of the tall claims made but the Christians, the caste, racism, untouchability and other factors have been there in Christianity. The hundreds of denominations in different countries based on theology, practices, tribes etc., are the direct proof. Pope Gregory XV published a bull sanctioning caste regulations in the Christian Churches of India. Even the U. N. Commission of Inquiry (1953) into the racial situation in South Africa reported the Biblical background of inspiration for them to adopt “Apartheid” or “Christian caste system” with untouchability [Genesis. 9.25, Joshua. 9.21, 23 & 27]. Untouchability also finds its way to Bible [Joshua. 9.19]. In Ireland, there are separate streets for Roman Catholics and Protestants, as each group treats others “untouchables”.

Slavery has been a divine approved system [Levi. 25: 44-46; Timothy. 6.11]. Prasadam offered to Jehovah should not be eaten by others [Exo.12:43]. They should not touch things holy to him or offer sacrifice [Levi. 22:25]. Bible should not be taught to others [Jewish Encyclopedia, Vol. 5, p.623; Exo.27:33]. They cannot offer incense [Numbers.16:40]. They should not approach the holy tabernacle i.e, the “Garba Griha” / Sanctum Sanctorum [Numbers 1.51]. The dishonest Christians suppress everything and try to fool the gullible SCs and STs projecting that their religion saves them. they could not save their own souls of SCs / STs with dubious methods. There are A to Z Churches with denominations (castes) running into more than 3000 depending upon the nation, language, ethnicity, culture, civilization and other factors. The matrimonial columns appearing in the newspapers and periodicals expose their hypocrisy, as the bride / groom are hunted only on the basis of “caste” and not on the “Christ”!

Crores of Rupees flow into India from abroad to convert India to Christianity. World Christian Organizations never hide this plan. After the Neogi Commission Report, they have only changed their tactics in routing the money. Political pressure at national and international levels is applied through different cannels to pump money in. only 30-40% is actually spent under the guise of charity, service, and liberation etc., whereas, 60-70% is adjusted in their manipulated accounts duly certified. They have formed their own high castes and they do not want to share profits with the new converts. They treat them just as “natives” counting numbers and sending statistical figures to parent organizations. Thus, the discrimination persists and percolates to bottom reaching new complications and crating new social tensions.

Therefore, to divert the issue, as decided by the World Council of Churches and other organizations, they set up different “research groups” to shift the blame to Hinduism and escape. After politicizing, they have tried to internationalize the issue. Whoever Indian writer, journalist or “scholar”, who supports this theory, is received aboard usually USA or Germany and taken care of.

“Dalit Theology”13 is the superior theology masqueraded in mere theoretical egalitarianism to fool “Dalits” projecting Jesus as the Super Star Saviour and Christianity to solve all their social problems, suppressing all cold facts, historical truths and the past tract record of Christianity.

“Liberation Theology”14 is nothing but “Christian Communism” with God offered in different garb mainly advocating violence. It advocates violence, terrorism and anti-national activities in a country where it is preached. After the death of Communism and exposure of their deadly acts in Latin American countries, they have turned their attention to “Dalit Theology”.
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Brain washing Dalits:</b> They adopt and adapt spurious scholarship, falsified histories, forged documents to create new hypotheses and theories. Many books have been published with much fanfare and publicity. Their mouth-piece journals publicize well about the publications. Now, they unscrupulously use the same methodology in full swing as a part of their psychological warfare with all their propaganda arms and brainwashing ammunition. These forces openly join with Communist, Muslim, “Dalit” and other banner organizations, portray the symbols of Narayan Guru, Karl Marx, E. V. Ramaswami Naicker, B. R. Ambedkar and give a rhetoric or cocktail of their philosophies and ideologies to inspire, excite and animate, ultimately brainwash them. Invariably, Hinduism is condemned and criticized for all social aberrations and modern evils; Hindu Gods blasphemed and profaned; Hindu scriptures reviled and scoffed at with sacrilege. The audience would be thrilled leading to ecstasy with clapping hands, shouting slogans, jumping and raising hands. One would be perhaps baffled to see the stage, where all opposing ideologues, religious heads and propagandists sitting together. Though they stress only upon their viewpoint without sacrificing their motive and compromising religious tenets, they would be very much united as far as abusing Hinduism, Hindu Gods and Hindu religious leaders are concerned. They mix different ideologies; quote unhistorical events; make false statements and finally, perhaps, this becomes their ideology sand theology.
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Warning to Dalits:</b> The motive of Christianity in India, at present is to destabilize and disintegrate India through various social, economic and political blackmails. For that all international agencies are used directly or indirectly to achieve their goals. For this game plan, they try to misuse or rather abuse SCs / STs as their pawns. Therefore, they should not fall prey to their designs. The issues of human rights, women rights, liberation, self-determination, environment, indigenous people etc., are to fool the poor third world countries.

<b>Why Christianity failed?:</b> Christianity has failed not only in India but also in the entire world, because of its contradictions, inconsistencies and self-deceptive theologies. In spite of the support of colonial powers, world nomination and super-power backing, it has been collapsing in the west. Psychologists and Sociologists have proved the link between the rise of crime rate, particularly against women and children, female degradation, teenage mothers, divorce, abortion, racial discrimination, drugs and other modern evils and the Christian theological concepts applied through the clergy. The Church attendance / audience have been dwindling down day by day and many Churches are sold for demolition and commercial buildings built at their sites. Therefore, as the Christians cannot save the souls of them, definitely, they cannot save the SC / STs of India. Instead of fishing in troubled waters in India, it is better they concentrate in their own lands to prevent the believers go out of their religion.

<b>Islam and caste: </b>Islam too claims that it has no caste system, as it treats every Muslim equal. But, to understand it, one has to understand Islam and its basic tenets. As it is not known to everybody, generally, people believe what is told to them or what they read about Islam. They either do not want to ask questions or know about it, as they are either afraid of Muslims or feel extremely “delicate” to ask such “inconvenient” questions.

Islam treats all Muslims equal, not all human beings on the earth. Even, among Muslims, there are many different castes based on theology, interpretation of scriptures, acceptance or rejection of scriptures, mode of worship, celebration of festivals, representing religious-symbols, grave-yards, Quran book, the position of Imams, Caliphs, Prophets after Mohammed, Sufism, miracles, etc. on one side, and country, tribe, culture, tradition, heritage and other factors on the other side. For converts, all factors will be applicable. The so-called Muslims who have been classified as OBC in different denominations as follows15:

Andhrapradesh: Mahathar.

Assam: Maimals (Muslim fishermen), Manipur Muslims.

Bihar: Bharathira, Chik, Dafalange, Dafeale, Faqir, Gadihar, Hima,
Karanjia, Qassar, Darzi, Kasai, Bhangi, Madari, Miriasin,
Mirishkar, Momin, Mukro, Nat, Pamania, Rangrez, Sayee,
Thakurai.

Gujarat: Eafan, Defer, Fakir, Gadhai, Galiva, Ghanchi, Hingora, Jat, Tari,
Halarikhatki, Darban, Makrani, Mausari, Kureshi, Miana, Mir,
Mirasi, Panchara, Sandhi, Patni Jamat, Turk Jamat, Waghev.

Jammu & Kashmir: Bhat, Dhar, Dooma, Hajjan, Julaha, Lohar, Lone, Kul, Faqir,
Kumhar, Mochi, Teli, Nal Band.

Karnataka: Ansari, Julai, Tamboli, Beri, Chaffar band, Darzi, Dhobi, Faqir,
Takaras, Zargars.

Kerala:Mappila.

Punjab:Faqir, Meqati.

Rajasthan: Julaha.

Tamilnadu:Labbi.

Uttarapradesh: Ansari, Kassab, Banjara, Kayastha.

West Bengal: Ansari, Faqir, Sain.

Besides, these divisions, they have their own divisions based on the factors mentioned below:

Sunni, Kariji, Shia, Zaida, Imamia, Ismaliyya, Kojha, Bohra, Nizari, Isna Ashari, Kachi-menon, Mutazila, Murji, Wahabi, Ba’hai, Ahmeddhi, Shanusi, Sufi, and so on.

This shows the hypocrisy and double standards of Muslims proclaiming universal brotherhood, non-discrimination etc., at one end and fool the converts and accepting reservation on the basis of caste on the other hand. Therefore, converts should carefully think about the motive of the converters. Are they actually liberating them or chaining them with Islamic bondage forever? In Islam, there is no exemption, exception or relaxation, once you are declared as “Kafir”, you will be hunted for persecution. To say simply, you do not like Islam, you cannot leave Islam and come out. Apostasy cannot be thought of in Islam and only death is the reward for apostates. You can blame, criticize and even blaspheme your Hindu Gods and be Hindus forever, but you cannot be a Muslim or you cannot live by blaming, criticizing or condemning Islamic Gods and Prophets.

<b>The concept of pollution and untouchability:</b> Quran spesks of two types of pollution and impurity – Idolatry [Sura.9, Ayat. 28] and Muslim women [II.222]. Other contaminations are drinking, traveling, sexual intercourse [V.43] and Devil (Satan) [XXIV.21]. kafirs are always considered as untouchables according to Quran. Kufru is the unclean status / condition. Untouchability is also ascribed to eating of carrion, blood and swine flesh [II.173]. Women are prohibited from entering mosques and pray along with men as they are polluted by menstruation periodically [Hadis]. Hadis also describes about sexual pollution and ablution. Emancipation of women-believing slaves is nly mentioned, that too in the context of marriage [II.177; IV.25, 36, 92; XXIV.32; LVII.3; XL.13], but not about men-slaves. Mohammed sanctioned slavery unscrupulously to kafirs (unbelievers, heathens, pagans, non-Muslims) by Jihad (holy war) denying all human rights. Thus, the entire world is divided into Dar-al-Islam (the domain of Islam) and Dar-al-Harab (the domain of war); the humanity into momins (believers) and kairs (non-believers); kafirs are further divided into people with books (al-kitabia = Jews and Christians) and people without books (all other religions other than mentioned); they are also known as Zimmis, when they pay Jizya.

The concept of kafir depends on kufr i.e, impurity, status, unacceptable condition etc., and kafiri i,e., infidelity, heathenism, paganism etc., identified accordingly. There are many verses in Quran that they should not be allowed to come near the cities of Mecca and Medina [Surah XIX]. They should not touch anything meant for Allah. They should not read Quran and other scriptures.

The above-mentioned divisions (castes) are water-tight compartments and the accommodated new converts cannot claim all rights of Sayyid, Qureshi, Ansari, Siddhiqi, Farooqi, Osmani, Alvi, Hussaini, Jafri, Naqvi, Zaidi, Kazmi, Rizvi, Hashmi, Abbasi, Sherwani, Shirazi, Isphani, Timizi, Bukhari, Barlas, Kirmaniu, Yazdani – who trace their foreign ancestry or middle eastern, Persia or Central Asian origin. Lebbai of Tamilnadu cannot be treated at par with Bukharis or Bohras. They cannot also think of marrying their daughters. Now, the fact is that Muslims have started matching horoscopes, giving and taking dowry and so on. Therefore, just by becoming Muslim, they cannot think of going up or getting liberated.

Thus, the “Dalits” cannot get emancipated or reach heavens, as has been proclaimed by the Islamic propagandists, theoreticians and ideologues. See the Islamic countries with Islamic law, what has been going on? Are they leading happy, prosperous and peaceful lives? Why the Islamic countries fighting with each other calling other as kafirs? Why the Ahmeddiyas and Ba’hai Muslims are persecuted and their mosques demolished declared as kafirs? Why people are starving in Islamic countries? The Indian Muslims are treated only as second class citizens in Islamic countries. The kafir-workmen are treated as bonded labourers in gulf-countries.

Women who are imported into such countries as servant maids / cooks are ill-treated, starved and sexually harassed. Ameena-like girls are married and taken away. Male children are bought and sold for camel-races. The returned (run-away) men and women from gulf-countries tell their miserable and horrified stories. It is a known fact that crores of petro-dollars are flowing into India officially and un-officially. Then, why do not they spend such amount for the upliftment of Muslims? Why the Indian Muslims are kept poor, in spite of their wealth? Therefore, as this is the true position, the “Dalits” should not be cheated with their propaganda.

<b>Islamic conversion moves:</b> Now, many Islamic organizations have openly come out with documents about the conversion of India by a phased manner. The Muslim politicians also proclaim that they could convert India into Islamic before the starting of 21st century. Islamic religious leaders, Sheikhs, Politicians, and others visit India periodically under the guise of conferences, seminars, inauguration of mosques etc., and encourage the conversion process.

Converted Muslims like Abdullah Adiyar16 has been tempting “Dalit” leaders like Ilaya Perumal to convert to Islam. RPI leaders like Dr. Seppan17 with the former has started writing books making claims that “Islam is the only way for total liberation” and so on. Surprisingly, Valampuri John18 has also joined them contributing his mite. The books written by them are just propaganda literature and a poor category of negationism [negationism is the tactful method of concealing, eliminating or destroying the past record of Islam or Christianity by their respective writers and hence it may be defined as denial of historical crimes against humanity. It is not a reinterpretation of known facts, but the denial of such known facts19].

<b>Tabligh movement:</b> it was revived against the Suddhi movement of Swami Dayananda Saraswati in the late 1920s. But, the conversion methodology has been in operation ever since the advent of Islam in India using all tactics. The movement has again been revived in the ‘Dalit” context in the recent times with the blessings and petro-dollars of International Islamic organizations.

<b>Strategy adopted and adapted:</b> The money is routed officially through the Central and State Government Social welfare and minority institutions meant for building mosques and madrasas. A portion of the amount is diverted to conversion by manipulating the accounts. The other form of pumping in money is through the individuals, professionals and others, who in turn donate and divert it. Recently, it has been found out that money is also routed through terrorists amassed through the activities of drug trafficking, arms trade and smuggling. With that money, the strategy carried out is as follows:

1. Building mosques at Rural areas – in own places, leased, allotted and porumboke (no one’s land) lands (to be regularized later with the blessings of the local / secular politicians, because of their minority status) lands.

2. Allowing poor SC / STs deliberately to put up their huts around the mosques, so that the taking over (i.e, legalizing) of land becomes easy.

3. Giving money and labour whenever they require and inducing them to join Islam.

4. After conversion, their “acquired superiority” is publicized among the other family and relative members for further temptation.

5. To avoid caste conflicts, they are sent to villages of other areas of the same or other states, thereby their caste identity is suppressed.

6. then, Islamization process starts i.e, the complete removal of Hindu thought, culture, tradition, heritage and manners by changing name, dress, tonsure, circumcision, remarriage etc., with Islamic rituals.

<b>Can liberation be possible in Islam?:</b> Within Islam, there as always been struggles, wars and battles20. Except, the castes / tribes that trace their origin to middle-east, all other indigenously created / formed castes are placed at the lowest pedestal and treated accordingly for all social processes. Indian Muslims are treated as second rate citizens in the case of Haj-yatra. Only the high-caste Muslims are treated well to some extent. This discrimination arises out of Arabic tribal consciousness coupled with the Islamic theology and jurisprudence developed based on Quran, Hadis and Shariat. Therefore, no social reformer can question or even point out the existence of such practice. The fate of Deccan Herald, a drama troop who staged one play in a gulf country, Salman Rushdie, Naslima Tsreen and others are well known to be repeated.
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Why Islam has failed?:</b> In spite of the ideals-universal brotherhood, equality, rights for women etc., claimed, the practical and practiced Islam and its track record have shown and proved that even in a declared Islamic state, such ideals cannot be implemented, as the religio-political leaders have always manipulated and interpreted the tenets of Islam according to their convenience. No Islamic state from the advent or the introduction of Islam has ever exhibited egalitarianism, because of its fundamental principles of dividing humanity into superior-believers (momins) and inferior, degrading, polluted and third rate unbelievers (kafirs) under the concept of Dar-al-Islam and Dar-al-Harab. Moreover, with the concept of “Jahalliya” (dark period) before the advent of the Islam on the earth, the Muslims never appreciate the existence of people with wisdom before it. As the domain of kafirs (whether within or without Islam) is always meant for Jihad, till the kufru / kafiri is removed, peace cannot be established. Ironically, “Islam” means “peace” on Arabic. Therefore, in such warring conditions people cannot live without problems.

<b>International conspiracy: </b>Many Christian and Muslim agencies have been actively working in hands with other anti-Indian forces to destabilize India by confusing the “Dalit” groups of India. Recently their moves have been more systematic and open, synchronizing with the contemporary global political and economic changes.

“Dalit Solidarity Programme” (DSP) of World Council of Churches (WCC) was first to conceive after the WCC programmes to combat Racism was over at Madras in 1989.

At the VIIth Assembly of the WCC held in Canberra in February 1991, mischievous statement was adapted by them about the so-called “growing consciousness of the Indigenous peoples’ struggle for freedom, including those of Dalits of India”.

During the IXth session of the working group on indigenous peoples held between June 22 and August 2, 1991, some “tribal” groups represented to UN about their “status” in India.

The WCC thus recognized “Dalits” as “indigenous people” in their “document” on “Ecumenical Action o Racism” formerly known as “Programme to Combat Racism” (PCR).

The statements and representations made by some US, UK and Middle-east based “Dalit” groups are also intriguing. During the Xth session of UN Commission on Human Rights held at Geneva, Switzerland, from 20th to 31st July 1992, one Ambedkar Centre for Justice, Canada made a statement that SCs / STs are indigenous people of India, there are only 15% Hindus in India and so on!

With all the moves, surprisingly, the year 1993 was declared as the year of “Indigenous Peoples” by the UN!

The Madras Bishop Azariah (P. B. No.4914, Madras – 600 006) delivered a speech in Bonn, Germany, leading a Christian delegation on “Dalit” problem in India (August 31 to Sep.2, 1994)!

Similarly, the Islamic groups working on the very similar lines started advocating the unity of “Dalits and Muslims”, though there have been opposition from the fundamentalist Muslim outfits, who are against such unholy alliance of “Kafir-momin relationship”!

Therefore, to counter such methods, they have directly launched conversion movement of “Dalits” instead of havinbg alliance. The US, UK and Geneva based Muslim organizations and agencies have been very successful in building up anti-Indian campaign by every possible means taking every available opportunity without fail. Inside India, they circulate such stage-managed and propaganda materials to fool the locals and haste for conversion.

Surprisingly, there have been some organizations from Japan joining the hands of other collaborators in converting “Dalits” to “Buddhism”. Recently they have made the Bodh Gaya issue internationalized successfully.

Therefore, the SCs should be very careful about these alien forces, as their motive has been many times anti-Indian with ulterior designs. The SCs should not fall prey to such designs, instead, they should understand their nefarious game-plans and expose their ugly faces to the world.
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Can “Dalits” get liberated by continuing as Hindus?:</b> The minds of “Dalit”-Hindus know very well about the implications of converting themselves to non-Hindu religions in India. In fact, they love Hindu culture, tradition, heritage and civilization most because of their hoary past and enriched connected factors, appreciated by many scholars, philosophers, historians, sociologists and psychologists/ they have also understood that in the entire world, there have been only two civilizations in existence without break or extinction from time immemorial.

The present-day problem has definitely arisen out of the Muslim and British manipulation of Census documents, enumeration of castes and willful-mischievous exposition of varna, jati, race and other pseudo-scientific hypotheses and theories.

Unlike non-Hindus, most of the Hindus do not know about their religion, scriptures and theology, but, only stories and propaganda about the same. They talk and discuss about what they are told unlike other religions, they do not have a single scripture, single religious institution, single religious head and other stereo-types. Unlimited freedom has been given within the ambit of Hinduism to its followers whether they believe it or not. These are not drawbacks or mistakes, but perfectly in accordance with the psychological needs of man. Psychologists and sociologists have come to the conclusion that for the betterment of any society in the present day world of conflicts, the religion and psychology should go together. This is possible only in Hinduism. Unlike, the propaganda made against Hinduism, it is not suppressive and oppressive of “Dalits”.

<b>What man wants?:</b> The basic needs of man are food, dress and house. Other connected entities like sanitation, transportation, education, happy life come afterwards. The issue is not the availability of resources, but sharing of them. Definitely, God has created everything for men, but men have divided themselves into nation, religion, creed, clan, tribe, denomination, class, caste and other boundaries and barriers. Men have always manipulated out of these factors to restrict others in sharing processes. For such process the shared become decrease day by day. Those who enjoyed share / quota try to keep such benefits only to themselves and do not want it to percolate to the bottom. Hence, each factor (say nation, caste or class) has its own vertical / pyramidal type of hierarchy, with the elite / ruling / creamy layer sitting / occupying on it at the top. The terms may change, definition may change, but the reality does not change.

Moreover, if the caste factor is a particular problem to the Indian society, the reservation has to be continued for the needy based on such caste factor, then Islam or Christianity need not meddle with such social processes. Let the Christians and Muslims go to their own countries to save the souls of their believers / brethren to stop them fighting with each other, killing each other, looting each other in the name of religion. Let them share the amassed wealthy through various methods for the upliftment. And let Hindus to solve their social problems. They need not create more social problems by converting the gullible Hindus.

<b>Warning to Hindus: </b>As the entire burden and responsibility lie on Hindus, they should work sincerely and honestly to remove all social inequalities and injustice. The so-called “Caste Hindus” should stop their discrimination and atrocities committed against their SC / ST Brethren. Social evils may be there in every society, but they cannot be nurtured, justified or exploited in the name of religion, politics or otherwise for the benefit of themselves. India may be a poor country, but that does not mean only the “caste Hindus” should be rich, land owners or enjoying all the material benefits. The poor also should get their share not because they are poor, but human beings, that too, their brethren.

Urbanization, Modernization, Industrialization, Science and technological advancements have made Hindus to come close together to understand each other. There have been more and more social interactions taking place among them. The SC / ST are also educating themselves and competing equally with others exhibiting and proving their skills. They about their rights and responsibilities, but others should allow them to enjoy their rights and carry out their responsibilities. Hindus should know that Vedas do not preach caste system; do not differentiate man by colour, stature, appearance or any other factor. Hindus have always been mixed population with differing features in accordance with nature. This is same in any changing society. As Hindus have been surviving from time immemorial, in spite of the onslaughts, they should treat all of their community members equally, so that not only Hindus, even the entire nation and the world can be elevated.

<b>The Dalit Politics:</b> Of late, some vested politicians in connivance with the anti-national forces started playing very dangerous political games. They have openly started instigating Indians to divide themselves on caste basis and making calculations accordingly. Reservation figures are muddled and misused to brainwash electorate, thereby, caste wars are created. The magic-combination of “BC-SC-ST-Minorities” is picking up and it has become a game-plan for them. For all such caste-conflicts, the “traditional enemy” ids blamed and condemned. In the recent U. P elections, crores of Rupees were spent to experiment their conceived plan. In spite of the number game, extra-democratic means were adopted to capture power. After coming to power, unnecessarily, Mahathma Gandhi and Babasaheb Ambedkar have been pitted against each other drawing parallels. All Hindus should be very careful in such moves.

<b>Swami Vivekananda and Dalits:</b> Swami Vivekananda is a “Dalit” – Shudra from Kayasth community. When he became a Sanyasi, some social reformers challenged him as to how a Shudra could become a Sanyasi. He gave them suitable reply with supporting evidences from scriptures proving that Shudras were nothing but Kshatriyas: “I am not all hurt if they call me a Shudra. It will be a little reparation for the tyranny of my ancestors over the poor. If I am a Paraiah, I will be more glad, for I am the disciple of a man, who – the Bahmn of Brahmins – wanted to cleanse the house of a Paraiah”21. He started Sri Ramakrishna Mission only to liberate oppressed and suppressed: “From the Math will go out men of character who will deluge the world with spirituality…………The Shudra caste will exist no longer – their work being done by machinery” 22. He defines “Shurahood” as the status of people “engaged in serving another for pay”. Then, perhaps most of the higher castes are “Shudras” and the real shudras are not, as they work for themselves and not for others to get any pay. He also points out as to how the great rishis Vasistha, Narada, Satyakama, Jabala, Vyasa, Kripa, Drona, Krishna and others were Shudras and raised to the status of Ksatriyas and Brahmins. Kausikas, Jambuga, Mandavya, Gangeya, Chavunaga, Gautama, Agastya, Ganatasalya, XGandha, Sukha, Jambavantha, Aswatthama ansd host of others were Shudras / outcastes / oppressed and suppressed heroes who rose to the highest status. From this, one canunderstand that those who have given Vedas, compiled Vedas, Itihasas and Puranas were all – Shuras. Therefore, understanding the history, the so called “Dalits” should fight against the present 3000 / 4000 Caste-system and liberate by being Hindus.

<b>Adi Hindus:</b> In view of the above facts, the all SCs can be called “Adi Hindus” more appropriately giving all credit, instead of Harijan, Paraiyar, Dalit, Shudra etc. the one collective group “Adi Hindus” can be given the SC status and STs are nothing but our brethren “Vanavashis” from time immemorial. They should dispense with the motivated usae of “Dalit” and work for the unity and integrity of India..

<b>Towards Dalit Unity:</b> It is a fact that the SCs have many differences among themselves and each group working separately with suspicion on the other group. The differences observed are due to the following factors:

1. Educated SCs do not treat uneducated characteristically.

2. Rich SCs do not mingle with the poor groups.

3. Urban SCs treat rural categories differently.

4. All the above categories do not want to identify with other SCs, because of their elevated status. Many times, they even hesitates or do not want to introduce their own mother, wife, sisters, brothers etc., to others fearing that their “caste” might be revealed. At marriage and other social gatherings, one can observe how the different groups of SCs interact / behave with each other.

5. personality cult, political links for getting favours, extra-political / caste / religious connections for getting funds for organizing meetings, printing literature etc. “Acquired groups” do not want to reveal or share with other groups about their sources and application of funds.

6. Elevated groups are afraid that other SCs may get their benefits so that their prospects may be affected / restricted in the long run. They are more interested in getting benefits to their children and wards than for other SCs.

7. The “We-they” complex among the SCs themselves are very intriguing leading to unimaginable state of “untouchables among the untouchables”.

Competitive spirit should be there, but not rivalry leading to social manipulations. Here only, one is told about to follow some principles based on religion or otherwise. History is replete with the causes for manipulation of castes. Therefore, we need not commit the same mistakes to increase the number of castes among the existing castes. If we continue such tactics, it is nothing but suicidal politics playing with their own brethren. Therefore, forgetting the differences, one should work for the unification, instead of diversification or differentiation. For such a unification process, the concept of “Adhi Hindus” would be very much helpful. Let us our brethren think over it and come for a fruitful decision, so that the Indian society may be having prosperous future with social equity and social justice.

<b>Notes and references</b>

1. Census of India (1911), Part – I, p.117.

2. The word cast / casta has Spain and Portuguese origin meaning lineage or race. Latin ‘castus’ means pure. It was not used in the Indian context till 16th century.

3. M. K. Gandhi, Removal of Untouchability, Navjivan Publishing House, Ahmedabad, 1964, p.37.

4. B. R. Ambedkar, The Untouchables, Jetavan, Mahavibar, 1069, pp.90-91.

5. A. L. Srivastava, Akbar, the Great, Shiv Lal Agarwala & Co. Ltd, Agra,

6. N. M. Penzer, The Harem, George G. Harrap & Co. Ltd, London.

7. Sayid Athar Abbas Rizvi, A History of Sufism in India, Mushiram Manoharlal, New Delhi, 1983, Vol. II, pp.425-432.

8. Katharine P. Ewing, Shariat and Ambiguity in South Asian Islam, Oxford University Press, New Delhi, 1988, pp.208-218.

9. Census of India (1911), Part – I, p.117.

10. J. K. Hutton, Caste in India, Cambridge University Press, 1946, p.167.

11. The caste classified as “depressed” on the basis of untouchability in the Census of India of 1931 were named as “Scheduled classes” for purpose of franchise - Census of India, 1931), Vol. XIV, p.339.

12. One Rettaimalai Srinivasan started a Tamil periodical “Praiyan” in 1893 and discontinued. Now, recently a monthly magazine “Praiyar kural” is in private circulation.

13. Many books published by the Gurukul Theological College, Vepery, Dalit Liberation Education Trust, Alwarpet and other Christian missionaries in India.

14. Many books published by the Indian Theological Association, NCBLC, Bangalore etc., show the strategy of the Christian missionaries.

15. See also: K. S. Lal, Indian Muslims – Who are they?, Voice of India, New Delhi, 1990.

16. Abdullah Adiyar, Islam Calls you, Islamic Dwah Mission of India, Madras – 600 024, 1992, p.24.

17. A. Seppan, Islam is the only way for total liberation, Unarvu Publications, 1992, Madras – 600 006.
…………, Why Ape for Islam, Unarvu Publications, 1992, Madras – 600 006.

18. Valampuri John, Islam: Am Earthy Religion, Unarvu Publications, 1992, Madras – 600 006.

19. Koenard Elst, Negationism in India, Voice of India, New Delhi, 1992, p.1.

20. Rafiq Zackaria, The Struggle within Islam, Viking, New Delhi,

21. Swami Vivekananda, Complete Works, Vol. III, p.211.

22. Ibid, Vol. V, p.316.






<i>I wrote this paper in 1994 for Vivekananda Kendra Patrika, as they were bringing out a special issue on “Dimensions of conversion”. This is an outcome of attending hundreds of meetings, seminars and conferences of Christian, Muslim, Dalit, SC / ST and others, interviewing Christian, Muslim, Dalit, SC / ST friends and discussing crucial issues with them knowing their opinion. It was published in the Volume. No. 24, Feb. 1995, pp. 98-114.

Then, I translated into Tamil with addition of materials and submitted to one Tamil magazine (of Hindu organization). The Editor, who is also known to me, kept it for six months without telling anything. When I asked, he simply returned telling that “Higher leaders do not want it published”. However, the manuscript used to be taken by the friends whenever, they wanted to talk on “Dalits”.

As many times, the subject matter is discussed many times directly and indirectly, I decide to post it here without any change.

I request for the comments of readers.

VEDAPRAKASH
01-07-2007.</i>

[Bodhi]

Dalit killed for offering prasad in a Bihar temple

Tension prevails in Garai village of Nalanda district after a Dalit was killed in a clash with upper castes on Dussehra night over making an offering to Goddess Durga. Three Dalits were also injured in the violence.

The trouble started when members of the Dalit community reportedly asked the temple priest to let them be the first to offer prasad to the goddess. The upper castes, <b>who had been waiting in the queue for some time</b>, opposed it.

“We have contributed equal amount for the puja. Why should they (upper castes) be given priority,” Karu Paswan, a Dalit, reportedly asked the priest.

This led to an exchange of words between Paswan and the priest. The upper castes intervened, triggering a clash. Ratan Singh, an upper caste, allegedly opened fire, injuring three persons, including Karu Paswan.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/St...+a+Bihar+temple
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But Jagran reports the other side of the story too:

गांव के देवी स्थान के पास दलित युवक के हत्या के आरोपी के पक्ष में दर्जनों ग्रामीणों ने लोजपा के केन्द्रीय टीम का रास्ता रोककर बताया कि घटना को बेवजह तूल दिया जा रहा है। मेला के दौरान पासवान जाति के कुछ असामाजिक तत्व के लोग दुर्गापूजा के मेले में उत्पात मचा रहे थे जिसका विरोध किया गया तो वे लोग हरवे-हथियार के साथ मेला में फायरिंग करने लगे। इसी दौरान अफरा-तफरी मच गयी और पासवान जाति के असामाजिक तत्व के लोगों ने ही कारु पासवान को गोली मार दी। रास्ता रोके ग्रामीणों ने टीम को बताया कि एक साजिश के तहत निर्दोष लोगों को फंसाया जा रहा है। http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/local/biha..._4911956_1.html

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Meanwhile, tussle between a harijan and upper caste groups of a neighbouring village about a pratima of viShNu that was unearthed. First group found it, and the second group claims the land where it was found is theirs. in the end police has confiscated the pratima.

http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/local/bi...40430.html