Radical Islam and internal security

03-25-2009, 10:14 PM

Husky: please start a thread. Some maps may be helpful too in that thread. We had a old thread on maps here but some images have been lost.

Husky · (This post was last modified: 03-30-2009, 04:13 PM by Husky.)

1. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/03/cam...y-into-our.html
QUOTEThe camel steadily making its way into our tent...
mar 29th, 2009

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http://www.dailypioneer.com/164955/New-vot...e-churning.html

"With 42 seats in the Lok Sabha, the Election Commission has listed West Bengal as one of the largest States. Since 2004, when the last general election was held, the State has added a whopping 48.86 lakh new voters, which exclude electors in the armed services. Interestingly, seven districts bordering Bangladesh have witnessed the maximum rise in the number of voters, so much that after delimitation Malda has been split into two constituencies - North and South Malda."

Posted by nizhal yoddha at 3/29/2009 08:01:00 AM 0 comments Where's the Indian Army? These BD islamic infiltrators need to be driven back over the border. And if the islamoterrorists put up a fight, then Army needs to fight back. They are illegals and terrorists most likely and have no rights in Bharatam.
Alternative is to give them an ultimatum: they can stay in Bharatam IFF they publicly renounce-and-denounce the mohammed-allah (that is, if they apostasise with no way of ever being accepted back by islam after such a public dumping of mo-allah) and if they then convert to the Dharmic Traditions en-masse.
And keep a regular check on them.

2. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7965633.stm
QUOTE"Charity" chief focus of arms probe
mar 29th, 2009

what goes in madrasas, which are now, thanks to arjun singh, treated the same as CBSE schools.

maybe CBSE curricula will soon include arms-handling and bomb-building. only halal bombs, please. we "charities" are very particular.

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Charity chief focus of arms probe

Bangladeshi police investigating a huge arms haul in the south of the country are investigating the possible role of the head of a British charity.

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The weapons cache was found at an Islamic school, or madrassa, allegedly run by a charity based in Manchester.

Bomb-making equipment

Newspaper reports in Britain say that Dr Mostafa - the head of the Green Crescent charity which runs the madrassa - had previously been tried for plotting explosions in the UK.

In November 2008 Dr Mostafa was found guilty by a court in Manchester of possession of dangerous weapons and making a false statement about baggage cargo at the city's airport.

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Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7965633.stm

Posted by nizhal yoddha at 3/29/2009 07:11:00 AM 0 comments

Husky · 04-03-2009, 05:56 PM

http://haindavakeralam.com/HkPage.aspx?P...499&SKIN=B
http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayAr...spx?id=479
Madhani Factor: Curse of Kerala Politics
C I Issac
02 Apr 2009

G.Subramaniam · 04-04-2009, 05:43 AM

http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Apr320...n=frontpagenews

3 houses torched in Mysore, 20 injured
Mysore, DHNS:
Several properties, including places of worship, were damaged and three houses set on fire in Kyatamaranahalli in Mysore on Wednesday night, following a clash between people belonging to two different communities.

About twenty people, including assistant sub-inspector Hanumanthappa from Udayagiri police station, were injured in the incident. About 35 persons, suspected to be involved in the arson, were arrested on Thursday.
Meanwhile, one person was found murdered in front of Suryaranayaswamy temple at Kyatamarahanahalli on Thursday night. According to police sources, the victim, whose identity is yet to be ascertained, had been selling coconuts in front of the temple. His head had been crushed with a stone.

Corporator and former Mysore mayor H N Srikantaiah (who defected to the BJP from the JD(S) last year), had to run for his life when a mob, armed with weapons, attacked his house and ransacked it.
His neighbour Venkateshâs house, an anganwadi and several Kannada flagposts were also damaged. Two- wheelers were torched and cars and trucks stoned.

Though the police fired in the air, lobbed tear gas shells and used mild force, it took around five hours for the restoration of peace.

Prohibitory orders under section 144 of the CrPC have been clamped in the area. However, fearing threat to their lives, several families have vacated the locality on Thursday.

The seed of violence was sown when three youths, belonging to a particular community, who were allegedly under the influence of drugs, picked up a quarrel with a shop keeper from another community on Tuesday evening over a trivial issue. Instead of inserting a one rupee coin, a youth had inserted 50 paisa in the coin phone box and this resulted in an altercation.

The shopkeeper then informed the police. The cops freed the youths with a warning on Wednesday evening. In an act of venegeance, the youths resorted to violence, supported by some other members from their community.
Rural Development and Panchayat Raj Minister Shobha Karandlaje, who is in-charge of the district, took stock of the situation on Thursday and alleged that it was a pre-planned act to disturb the peace in the area.

Husky · (This post was last modified: 04-04-2009, 03:10 PM by Husky.)

Accidentally put these 3 posts in the christianism thread. (Being a heathen, it's so hard to tell the difference between the one terrorist ideology and the other. Both kill the Hindoos, and destroy their temples and try to take over the nation for their non-existent scare-monster 'gawd'.)

Christian media apparently avoided covering the following

http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...505&SKIN=B
QUOTEMedia censors Jihadi Violence in Mysore
03/04/2009 16:01:28Â HK

Mysore: Jihadi groups attacked Temples and Houses of Hindus following the arrest of two Jihadi Romeos. Jihadis unleashed terror against Hindus and burnt their houses here following the arrest of two Jihadi youth based on the complaints of locals.

Four Temples and more than 250 houses were destroyed by the Jihadi mob that also set ablaze 12 vehicles and four houses.An anganwadi centre, printing press, xerox shop and scores of petty provision stores were destroyed. They also looted jewellery and cash, residents say. Miscreants also attacked the house of the former Mayor H N Srikantiah and ransacked furnitures. Many policemen were also injured in the attacks.

As usual this incident will also get censored by our National medias as part of their âMedia Ethicsâ unless Hindus starts retaliation in same coin. The Media wolves are waiting to jump into the scene when the retaliation happens so that they can corner the BJP government in Karnataka as well as portray the âInnocent Muslimsâ as victims under fascist rule.

More Images at
http://mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=b...adcastid=118985

Just like the christian media maintains calculated silence on the above news, now that HK is bringing it to more people's attention, a christian finds his way to HK and comments as follows (interesting how there always seems to be some christian ready to intervene everywhere - on behalf of kkkangress, psecularism and christoislamism):
QUOTEgordon
03/04/2009 21:12:28Â for god sakes
STAY UNITED INDIA, THIS IS OUR COUNTRY, AND DONT FALL PREY TO THESE POLITICAL GIMMICKS,..WE ARE ALL BROTHERS ..DONT LET THESE RIGHT WING GROUPS SPARK THE FEELING OF HATE IN YOU BECAUSE THATS ALL THEY WANT , TO DEVIDE THE SOCIETY FOR THEIR VOTE BANK..
HINDU ,MUSLIM,KIKH ,ISAI,SAB APAS MEIN BHAI BHAI!!
BHARATH MATA KI JAI!!!!!!Nicely inserted closing line. Apparently saying that makes him a nationalist. He must take Hindus for fools.

As a typical psecular christian, he appeals to Hindus to do nothing for all the Temples and homes destroyed. He wants "India to remain united" and our inaction in the face of continued anti-Hindu terrorism is to secure this.
Terrorist cannibal sheep. When jihadis burn christians' churches and homes, Hindus should rush to lecture the christoterrorists to remain calm, etcetera, etcetera.

Husky · 04-04-2009, 03:05 PM

Images of the above.
No difference between christoislamis in N or S.

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Husky · 04-04-2009, 03:06 PM

Christian media's silence is very secular. Weren't they howling about the staged pub attack? Where are they now when a jihadi attack is underway and police had to be called in?
Of course the very christian media of the very christian congress is not going to cover this. The point is that it's supposed to scare Hindus into voting for Congress. And like HK predicts: if/when Hindus finally retaliate for this christoislamic event (christianism is an accomplice through its silence on the same and its defence), the christian media will blow it up so all the psecular nation can be told never to vote for the BJP.

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The Indian police ought to shoot-on-sight all the islamic terrorists who did this.

Karnataka's police is still Dharmic (or was, last I checked). Unlike Kerala's police, which sounds rather like the J&K police, from what C I Issac reveals in his:
Madhani Factor: Curse of Kerala Politics
C I Issac
02 Apr 2009
http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayAr...spx?id=479
QUOTEAll these prove that both coalition fronts of Kerala are appeasing Islamic fundamentalists. The following observation of the Kerala High Court brings out the true picture of Kerala: âThe police has become a feared and dreaded force whom the common man shudders to beseech for helpâ [New Indian Express, op cit].QUOTEThe story of Islamic fundamentalistâs homicides is still continuing in Kerala. All such criminal activities are protected under their money and political power. On 25 March 2009, the Honâble High Court of Kerala vehemently criticized the Kerala Government for its inaction in dealing with terrorism and observed: âThe law and order in the State is in a shambles and this is least felt in the corridors of power where current sport is electioneeringâ [The New Indian Express, Kochi, 25 March 2009].

Husky · 04-05-2009, 02:19 PM

http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...511&SKIN=B
QUOTEJihadi attack on Ram Navami processions, Two killed
04/04/2009 08:17:42Â From Media Inputs

Yavatmal (Maharashtra): Curfew has been clamped in Pusad following attack on Ram Navami processions by Jihadis.

The trouble began after Jihadis entered into a verbal duel with the police over the traffic jam at the Shivaji Chowk, caused due to Ram Navami procession, police said.

When Jihadis resorted to arson and loot, Hindus retaliated resulting in group clash. Two persons have been killed following the clashes. The died have been identified as Raju Hagane and Sayed Gani.

04-06-2009, 12:21 AM

Pakistani Girl beaten up in Mumbai

G.Subramaniam · 04-06-2009, 05:52 AM

http://sabrang.com/cc/archive/2008/july-...simi2.html

The meet that sounded the bugle

Almost a year back, on the evening of October 29, 1999, thousands of Muslim men â and about 150 women â had poured into the Halim College campus on Parade Road, raising Islamic slogans. It was the beginning of a three-day SIMI conference that announced its assault on democratic, secular India.

At the congregation seven-year-old Gulrez Siddiqui got up on stage and electrified the audience of some 20,000 people. He roared: "Islam ka ghazi, butshikan/ Mera sher, Osama bin Laden (The warrior of Islam, the slayer of idols/ My lion, Osama bin Laden)."

Later, on a telephone line placed before the microphones, the voice of Sheikh Yaseen, the founder and spiritual leader of Hamas, reverberated through the awestruck gathering. He was making a live address, as was Qazi Hussain Ahmed, head of the Jamaat-e-Islami Pakistan, and the imam of the Al-Aqsa mosque in Israel. Those present included Maulana Kalbe Sadiq, vice-chairman of the All India Muslim Personal Law Board.

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Some highlights from above
Maulana Kalbe is a shia and he is officiating at a SIMI meeting
Also note the intense hatred of the 7 year old IM for hindu idols
Also note that 20,000 muslims attended this jihadist meeting
Hello, 20000 open SIMI members = several million SIMI hidden supporters
IMs are already radicalised before Gujurat

Husky · (This post was last modified: 04-06-2009, 06:50 PM by Husky.)

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http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/04/dai...girls-in-w.html
QUOTESunday, April 05, 2009
Daily kidnappings of Hindu girls in W. Bengal - Please help
apr 5th, 2009

what mohammedans do when they are not yet a majority.

you can imagine what they are doing to hindus in bangladesh. actually, you don't have to imagine it. it is there in black and white in taslima nasrin's "lajja". which is why she has been terrorized by the dhimmi indian state.

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On http://hindusamhati.blogspot.com/Â I am reading daily events which
look for external help. Can some organization, influential people take
this to right authorities. Don'tÂ understand how the Islamic virus has
spread deep into Indian heartland and the protectors, police and
politicians are nowhere to be seen.

Posted by nizhal yoddha at 4/05/2009 10:21:00 PM 1 commentsSoon it won't matter if the members of the Indian army decide to finally act. Them psecular "We Was Just Obeyin' When We Shot Them Hindoos And We Was Waitin' For Them Orders For When We Could Do Some'at About Them Terrorists" will be roasted along with the Dharmics.

http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/04/mal...ly-semitic.html
QUOTEmalaysia, truly semitic
apr 5th, 2009

they are doing what semites always do everywhere: oppress others. they can't help it, it's in the DNA of semitic ideologies, whether it's red, white, or green, ie. communist, christist, or mohammedanist.

and let us remember that the malay mohammedans are doing this with a majority of only 60% of the population. we are reaching that number in all the districts around bangladesh, and soon in malabar.

http://tyglobalist.org/index.php/200904041...Truly-Asia.html
Posted by nizhal yoddha at 4/05/2009 10:19:00 PM 0 comments

Husky · (This post was last modified: 04-06-2009, 07:56 PM by Husky.)

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And more along those lines:
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/04/ric...n-to-death.html
QUOTERickshaw puller beaten to death
apr 5th, 2009

RoP guys doing their usual thing -- leching after non-RoP females -- beats to death non-RoP man who objected.

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http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/06/stories/...570300.htm

A 45-year-old rickshaw puller was beaten to death allegedly by an acquaintance and his accomplices when he objected to them passing lewd remarks at his daughter at Bawana in Outer Delhi on Saturday. Three of the accused have been arrested.

The tragic incident took place around 10 p.m. when Harpal went to meet his neighbour Rasool and warned him against passing vulgar comments at his daughter. This led to an altercation between them, following which Rasool and his friends allegedly beat up Harpal.Why do Hindus stand for this? Must it take down every Hindu one by one first before Hindus realise they ought to answer chritstoislamism's call for war?

**acharya** · 04-10-2009, 12:00 AM

QUOTEprahaar wrote:
RayC Sir,

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The concept of Ummah gives the Muslim an insular identity as Muslim first, and then everything else. The fact that there was a flourishing Islamic Empire and a vibrant Islamic Civilisation which later crumbled, gives them a feeling of pride and then despondency, similar to the Hindu Civilisation bhaktsâ pride in Hindu Civilisation and the state it is currently in. Both live in the past to resurrect a bright, beautiful past into a powerful present and vibrant future dominated by their ilk!

The difference sir, lies in the fact that India's enemy is Pakistan and not India. So even if as you say there are Hindu Civlization bhakts who live in the state described by you are much less of a threat to national security than the muslims with that mindset. It is brutal fact of history/life we cannot wish that away and IMHO there is no need to indulge in an unnecessary equal-equal. Is it always necessary to bring Hindu civilization bhakts when discussing the topic of questionable loyalties of some IMs? I could not understand the need to bring in Hindus stuck in the "Hindu civilization", could you please explain or elaborate if I missed the reason.

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Therefore, I presume one could understand why the Muslim friend said what he said to you of wishing a Pak victory over India, he, being a Muslim. Silly of him, but understandable though not acceptable.

What are we going to do to change the "not acceptable" is the correct question. The elephant in the room.

Indeed, Pakistan is Indiaâs enemy and that too No 2.

Indians are not enemy to India, but then if one observes the way things are going, Gujarat, Malegaon (alleged), Mutalik, etc only indicates that the ire and the temperature is slowly rising. The way the Hindu Muslim divide that led to partition I believe started low key and then reached the crescendo. This time there will be NO partition, but there will be a bloodbath. The Wind de la Mort is blowing! Therefore, while Hindus are no enemies of India, they are collaborating with those some feel are the enemies of India.

Abetment is also a crime!

I am aware that it is embarrassing to face reality and so I understand and appreciate your consternation at my bringing up the issue of Hindu bhakts mindset being no different from the Muslim mindset. I thought I had written in a manner that it would be understood. I realise I have failed. I am also aware that on this forum I will not win the Popularity award, but there comes a time to face up to the challenges and take them by the lock rather than hunkering down to appease the majority view.

Instead of doing a blanket condemnation of my equating the two, I would love to be educated point wise, where I have gone wrong. I will appreciate the same. I will also reserve the right not to reply since I do not wish that this thread also goes down the sink!

Tell me, the faulty logic that you see in my statement:
The fact that there was a flourishing Islamic Empire and a vibrant Islamic Civilisation which later crumbled, gives them a feeling of pride and then despondency, similar to the Hindu Civilisation bhaktsâ pride in Hindu Civilisation and (and despondency) the state it is currently in.

Do you not see the immense pride people have in Hindu Civilisation and yet are disgusted with the way how things are going these days where the others are getting a treatment that upset the Hindus and so, despondency?

As a rationale person, I understand the Muslim boyâs statement, even though I cannot condone it and never will. He is foolish and young and who knows which Friday congregation he attends.

The Gujarat riots has already made the Muslim mindset to start a change and the repeated carnage perpetuated by Pakistani and local Muslims has clearly indicated to the Muslims the futility of such dastardly acts as also that they are being shown up to the world as brutal senseless murderers. The War on Terror, whether one likes it or not, has exposed the dangerous side of fanatical Islam and hence they are no longer the aggressive lot they were, but now on the defensive so much so they are desperate in their attempt to indicate that Islam is a religion of peace with no one buying the line. They feel cornered and rejected and this social ostracising internationally is having its effect.

**acharya** · (This post was last modified: 04-10-2009, 08:06 AM by acharya.)

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RayC wrote
Do you really believe in such fairly tales that the invoking of ââAllahâs willââ is anything beyond a psychological and moral placebo?

You are not considering the Muslim viewpoint. Have to look at it through the Islamic eyeglass. "Allah's will" is most important in the "brainwashing" education (not necessarily formal but also family and Islamic social). For the Islamic thinking, it has not yet faced the type of "crushing" defeat it recognizes as "total victory" from its opponents - all its adult males executed (any male that shows signs of pubic hair), all their women enslaved and ditributed among opponents males, all children enslaved and brought up in the faith of their opponents. Somehow they have been preserved and still managed to multiply even if suffereing loss of power temporarily to the Europeans. Allah has granted them oil-wealth. And now they have managed to defeat USSR, managed to gain allies from erstwhile opponents and powers like China, and see themselves at the centre of a rejuvenation under Taleban that has forced the western coalition on the backfoot and probably on the point of retreat.

To the Islamic mind, the Kaffir has shown its weakness by not behaving like Muslims or applying Islamic practices and doctrine back on Muslims. It is also a sign of Allah's favour that strikes "terror" of the Muslim in the hearts of the Kaffir, and makes them beg and crawl before the puniest Mullah who demands the head of a supposed "insultor" of Islam or its Prophet.

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How do you strengthen what you terms as ââanti Islamicââ forces? That is the answer that one seeks.

Without focusing on Islam as the common target, in spite of all the temptations to use it as the focus. Emphasize and reconstruct if necessary a set of core values based on the non-islamic that serves as the point of consolidation. This leaves the way open for Muslim to leave Islam and join in. Targeting Islam as the focus of the movement is negative and can lose impetus as soon as the Islamic appears to be defeated. For longer term sustenance need alternatives to be focused on as positive.

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6. What measures can the common man take to ensure that terrorists are foiled in their nefarious acts?

Do not "keep aloof". Penetrate and interact with "minorities" seen as vulnerable to such influences. Create conditions under which madrassahs cannot function or do not get sufficient students. Watch out socially for potential recruits.

Interesting.
How does one create conditions where the Madrassa do not get their recruits or students?
Islam is a very focussed religion and knowing the Koran by heart is a credit that is acclaimed! I do hope while one may know the Koran by rote, they also understand the inner meaning behind the words!

The more inner meanings are searched for more references to the "context" will come in - leading to further study of texts, more of the Hadiths, and subsequent jurisprudence. The more such explorations, greater the citations and justifications for the bloodiest tactics to be applied to Kaffirs. The Quran in itself simply for example makes slavery legal and Allah's will. The mechanism and contexts for enslavement are not that explicitly spelt out. Go to the Hadiths, and you see explicit contexts and methodologies - some carrying the weight of ascription to actual practice by the Prophet. What was not so clear in the Quran comes out clearly in the Hadiths - anything goes to justify unadulterated sadistic desires for female flesh. You do not want that - do you?

One easy way to tackle the madrassahs is to make all children compulsorily join in a national school system, and force madrassahs which want to continue to impart the common national syllabus. Make the syllabus so heavy that little or no place is left for "religious talk". Residential schools can also be thought of - under many excuses, "vulnerable communities", economically backward, etc. Undertake intensive re-urbamization programme to eliminate "uninhabitable dwelling conditions" and distribute populations in a wider "social context" where they cannot shield themselves from other communities in ghettos and the children are forced to join other communities in national schools.

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7. What measures can the common man take to ensure that Christian organisation and NGOs do not undertake proselytising in an underhand manner?
Hold on to your "brothers" and "sisters" tighter in embrace so that they are not "starved" of love and support and esteem so much so that they find it in the "EJ".
Why is it not happening even as now?

Cannot say why! endemic exclusivity doctrines perhaps. But not something to be proud of. We do not take "care" of the people who potentially convert, sufficiently - socially.

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Both in politics and biology, the preference is for the "orthodox". Staunchly Right, liberal Right - if such a category exists. However as far Right needed to go to preserve India or see to it that nothing to the "left" of "me" remains kicking and screaming.


Brihaspati Mahashaya,

This Inshallah or Inchallah or Allahâs will is a mere moral and psychological placebo and a verbal crutch, similar to the English âyou knowâ or âI mean to sayâ. Nothing sinister and I daresay, it does not put the chilled hand on my heart. If some people find this verbal crutch as blood curdling and scary, well nothing can be done about that, except say âGood Luck to you, sirâ!

Crushing defeat? In the modern world that is not feasible and then there is also the stigma that a riot will be interpreted and converted to a âgenocideâ, without applying the parameters of a genocide to declare it so. This is a global world and there is interdependence in many spheres, including economical. Therefore, one must tread with intelligence and not ruled by an angry heart. What would be worse for the overseas Indians is that though they would not have participated in the âtotal victoryâ, they would be looked down upon in your new found home overseas as a member of a âkiller raceâ! These very same overseas Indians, in a tight spot would be the first to condemn such a âtotal victoryâ since the shoe shall pinch. Though Indians have not won the Olympics gymnastics, yet they are very adept at backflip!

I think it is too simplistic an explanation to state that the Taleban defeated the USSR. The defeat of the USSR has many fathers (as the saying goes). But then that is a subject for a separate debate.

I would not know of which Kaffir that you speak about, but these Kaffirs in India are right now riding the crest. There are many who lament that India is a weak country, but please observe the situation in Pakistan now. The Taleban, as per yesterdayâs news here, have moved out of their rural hideouts because of the Drone attacks and have targeted the towns including Bunar and are lying in wait to strike Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi. To believe that it is a self igniting phenomenon would not be totally correct.

You expect the Muslim to leave Islam to join Hinduism (though you astutely leave it unsaid and I am sure you will protest much). Would you join the Islamic rank or would you prefer to die? Islam has already been targeted worldwide as a destructive force and is on the defensive! The effect has also been felt in India; at least those who prefer home shores are aware of it.

Penetrate and interact with the minority. Is that not happening? The Hadith are the experience of Mohammed as told to the Companions. It is not recognised by the Salafis or what you call Wahhabis. They are man made and not Allahâs edict. Therefore, the hardcore fundamentalists have nothing to do with the Hadith!

There are many ideas in the Quaran or Hadith, which possibly was acceptable in those times, but is abhorrent in contemporary society. The text has not been changed and possibly cannot be changed, but the practises have been given the go by. There are many practices or example in other religions too, including Hinduism, which are archaic. The continue to be in the Holy texts, but are not practiced!

Unadulterated sadistic desire for the female flesh. May I draw you attention to the fact that there are in other religions graphic sculptures of unadulterated desire for all types of sex, but to take it to be so, would be that of a perverse mind. They are these days taken to be the work of art!

It is already in action where the madrassa are working to a syllabus beyond the Quaran and it is being recognised as a discipline of education. The students have to qualify or else be the illiterate they were. Would it be alright for you if the Hindu religious TV dramas or the all night Ram Katha over the loudspeakers on specific days were equally addressed to ensure a level playing ground?

Your idea of social engineering wherein no community will dwell amongst themselves goes against the grain of social psychology. If you remember your schooldays Physics, it was said the like poles attract and unlike poles repel.

As far the issues concerning those who you all so quaintly classify as EJ, you claim that you should hold on to your âbrothersâ and âsistersâ in a tighter embrace. A penny for your thought. But has anyone stopped you from doing so?

04-10-2009, 07:00 PM

Far be it for me to understand and comment on a discussion underway elsewhere by jumping in the middle of it, but what is the author/writer/ saying? What is the bottom-line?

**acharya** · 04-11-2009, 10:52 AM

http://www.google.com/notebook/public/0103...QS6IwoQs8m71fMi

**acharya** · 04-12-2009, 11:12 AM

http://maloykrishnadhar.com/the-absurdit...-an-indian

THE ABSURDITY OF BEING AN INDIAN
Posted by: Maloy Krishna Dhar on Wednesday, January 7th, 2009

I avoid writing on politics. However, the sordid drama staged by A. R. Antulay in the Parliament provokes average Indians to ponder if we are living in a single nation, one country and one entity. The Indian National Congress, far from exhibiting dignity, behaved as faggots of treachery. All faggots end up in ashes. Hope Congress understands the latent inflammatory elements in common Indian psyche. No more lullaby please. We want positive secularism and nationalism. Days of compromise are gone. We, the tentative and absurd common Indians, are angry.

In July I read an interesting item by R. Prasannan with Dnyanesh Jathar, Lalita Iyer, Ajay Uprety & Nandini Oza (The Week, July 29, 2008) and others, which might have been education for many, but not for me. Celebrated and calibrated journalist Seema Chisti wrote a 3 part article in Indian Express in October 2008 recounting how very large numbers of Muslims were rotting in Indian jails as compared to very little Hindus and others. It did not force our tears out. Obviously we have not also been impressed by Sachar tears, which were more like Rudali lamentations than reflective of real ground situation.

G.Subramaniam · 04-28-2009, 11:40 AM

Muslim infiltration in Indian paramilitary forces
- setting up for another partition

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/lalus-railways-...ms/67046-3.html

Based on the Rajinder Sachar Committee recommendations, the government had issued directives to all the ministries to improve participation of minorities in government jobs.

It was also recommended that any recruitment panel for more than 10 posts must have a member from the minority community.

Almost two years into the drive, data has started pouring in.

Till February 2008, of the 67 departments and ministries under the Union Government, Home Ministry has been the best performer with central paramilitary forces recruiting 20 per cent minorities.

Husky · (This post was last modified: 04-28-2009, 07:16 PM by Husky.)

^ Important.

Two items:

1. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/04/act...e-attacked.html
QUOTESunday, April 26, 2009
action requested: Hindu Temple Attacked in Rampurhat, West Bengal
apr 26th, 2009

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Amit Singh
Date: Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Subject: [Hindu Vigil] Hindu Temple Attacked in Rampurhat, West Bengal
To:

You are requested to send e-mails / postal letters to protest the apathy
of West Bengal government to the plight of Hindus who were attacked, their
women folk molested and a Hindu temple was attacked by a Muslim mob,
Rampurhat, West Bengal, India. All relevant documentation is included in
the attached document.Full version at link.

2. From the comment at the above link:
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/04/act...e-attacked.html
QUOTEBloggerÂ blogger said...

Â Â Will circulate. Thanks for the post.

Â Â Did you guys read this one, "Indian Passport for bribe of $100 / Rs 5000".
http://satyabhashnam.blogspot.com/2009/04/...ut-corrupt.html

Â Â Apparently 85000 tatkal issued passports are now in question. A corrupt bureaucrat in collusion with a Muslim tout Fatimah, daughter of former MP headed the racket. [...]

G.Subramaniam · 05-01-2009, 06:07 AM

http://dailypioneer.com/173175/Cops-attack...ucted-girl.html

BHOPAL | Friday, May 1, 2009 | Email | Print |

Cops attacked on way to rescue abducted girl

Pioneer News Service | Gwalior

Villagers attacked a police party in village Bhattpura under Utila police station in Gwalior. The police party had gone there to rescue a âkidnapped girlâ. The villagers pelted stones at the police party injuring ASI Dinesh Birthare seriously. The attackers also snatched a gun from the police.

According to source, 16-year-old daughter of Mahesh, a sweeper, had disappeared on April 28 from Utila village. A case of kidnapping of girl was registered with the Utila police station. The police had received the information that Sahansh alias Iqbal Khan had kidnapped the girl.

The police team led by SO Utila Surendra Singh Yadav raided Bhattpura. The police recovered the girl Preeti from the house of Iqbal Khan but when the police started searching Iqbal Khan his family members and other villagers pelted stones at the police party injuring the ASI Dinesh Birthare.

On the other hand, the senior officer are enraged with SO Surendra Singh Yadav raiding the village without informing the senior officers on the polling day. The officers were also angry with the police party to desert ASI Dinesh Birthare when he was surrounded by villagers. The police officers might suspend the SO after conducting enquiry.

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