08-10-2005, 12:02 PM
Thanks to forum members for giving me a chance to respond. I hope I will not divert the topic.
As regards Islam. I know all the problems from concepts of dar-ul-islam, dar-ul-harb, kafir, seperatism, everything. I have been doing lot of reading. Though I dont know much about quran, but enough to understand the venom and terrorist tendencies it can create in certain people(mind you not all people, but as a community it has a problem), OBL is there because of islam, let me assure you I am no islam sympathiser. But ya i donot believe that muslims should be killed, kicked out or sent to pakistan. There is a problem and most importantly lets identify the problem and then shoot(it is more difficult but definitely more fruitful). Secondly I have certain ideas like individual liberty, secularism, democracy, freedom, equal rights and economic prosperity. These are the ideas which are under attack from some of these islamists. And I want to preserve these ideas and fight for these ideas. So all me responses against islamists will be based on these ideals. If I start supporting riots then i am going against all my cherished ideals indeed i become a reverse or mirror islamist. (maybe i again become an idealist, but then it is better that i stop thinking about these issues and play cricket and have fun nothing is going to change for me like a normal hindu)
Now regarding all the riots that independent india has seen. It boils my blood to the hilt and at times i think what the heck just do it. When i read about Direct Action Day or about the brutality of partition it creates a lot of anger. It does create a lot of resentment. But i firmly believe that an effective deterrance system with a clear cut targetted approach like madarssas, hate creating places should be targetted and not an innocent person, he may have a family(just like the godhra victims), he had nothing to do with what happened in godhra. Riot is a crude method of deterrance, a more sophisticated deterrance method can be created, we are good enough for that, definitely we are good enough
About the response in gujrat. Well atleast lets accept what happened in gujrat was wrong, and most importantly it was the rajdharma of Modi to protect the citizens. Lets accept if, if he tried, then good enough, he should then try to prosecute the perpetrators and the people who killed those innocent people. It is the duty of every individual to save another person, atleast an innocent person.
I hope i donot cross any lines over here. Just putting my thought. I also have a deep resentment from partition to kashmir to godhra, no doubt about that, but the question is what is my response. Will I stick to what i believe in or just become a mirror image of my adversary. Further I have a firm belief in my ideas and i know that they are strong and will win over every situation, i have strong belief in my method of thinking.
Bhagwan Krishna asked for just 5 villages from kaurav to avoid war, to avoid suffering and to avoid numerous soldiers getting killed. He was no coward. He tried his utter best to avoid war. Whet to the kauravs as shantidoot. My ideals come from this. A lord himself went all the way to bring love and peace. I will do all that i can. And then again as krishna if i am denied my rights. Then I will fight. Then I will fight, fight for my dharma and then it will become a dharmayudh. I guess I have become too idealist. But anyways this is a forum for ideas.
Abhishek
As regards Islam. I know all the problems from concepts of dar-ul-islam, dar-ul-harb, kafir, seperatism, everything. I have been doing lot of reading. Though I dont know much about quran, but enough to understand the venom and terrorist tendencies it can create in certain people(mind you not all people, but as a community it has a problem), OBL is there because of islam, let me assure you I am no islam sympathiser. But ya i donot believe that muslims should be killed, kicked out or sent to pakistan. There is a problem and most importantly lets identify the problem and then shoot(it is more difficult but definitely more fruitful). Secondly I have certain ideas like individual liberty, secularism, democracy, freedom, equal rights and economic prosperity. These are the ideas which are under attack from some of these islamists. And I want to preserve these ideas and fight for these ideas. So all me responses against islamists will be based on these ideals. If I start supporting riots then i am going against all my cherished ideals indeed i become a reverse or mirror islamist. (maybe i again become an idealist, but then it is better that i stop thinking about these issues and play cricket and have fun nothing is going to change for me like a normal hindu)
Now regarding all the riots that independent india has seen. It boils my blood to the hilt and at times i think what the heck just do it. When i read about Direct Action Day or about the brutality of partition it creates a lot of anger. It does create a lot of resentment. But i firmly believe that an effective deterrance system with a clear cut targetted approach like madarssas, hate creating places should be targetted and not an innocent person, he may have a family(just like the godhra victims), he had nothing to do with what happened in godhra. Riot is a crude method of deterrance, a more sophisticated deterrance method can be created, we are good enough for that, definitely we are good enough
About the response in gujrat. Well atleast lets accept what happened in gujrat was wrong, and most importantly it was the rajdharma of Modi to protect the citizens. Lets accept if, if he tried, then good enough, he should then try to prosecute the perpetrators and the people who killed those innocent people. It is the duty of every individual to save another person, atleast an innocent person.
I hope i donot cross any lines over here. Just putting my thought. I also have a deep resentment from partition to kashmir to godhra, no doubt about that, but the question is what is my response. Will I stick to what i believe in or just become a mirror image of my adversary. Further I have a firm belief in my ideas and i know that they are strong and will win over every situation, i have strong belief in my method of thinking.
Bhagwan Krishna asked for just 5 villages from kaurav to avoid war, to avoid suffering and to avoid numerous soldiers getting killed. He was no coward. He tried his utter best to avoid war. Whet to the kauravs as shantidoot. My ideals come from this. A lord himself went all the way to bring love and peace. I will do all that i can. And then again as krishna if i am denied my rights. Then I will fight. Then I will fight, fight for my dharma and then it will become a dharmayudh. I guess I have become too idealist. But anyways this is a forum for ideas.
Abhishek