08-17-2005, 11:35 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Aug 17 2005, 05:52 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Aug 17 2005, 05:52 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Defeating a superior tank force - a Beedi asks a Chinaman <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I am sorry for that Mudy. I forgot one has to register to read.
I will only post a few samples of what a Beedi is asking Chinamen:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I expect Col. Yu would come forward and give me a analytical reply to understand the situation below. I am looking for constructive analysis ONLY.
Bangladesh has a small tank force with 250 tanks( 1 more regiment is on order). But India has almost 500-800 tanks in its Eastern Command. We are at a disadvantageous position here. The only good thing is most of the terrain of Bangladesh is unsuitable for a tank battle. The Northern region of the country is a heaven for tank battle though. We are trying to understand, under this circumstances, what are the options available for Bangladesh to defeat a superior tank force?
The point to be remembered here is that, Bangladesh is not going to purchase so many tanks in near future. Only one regiment, 48 tanks, has been ordered and the existing tank fleet is going through an upgradation process.
Waiting for constructive replies. Thank you.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://www.thedailystar.net/2004/04/16/d4041601055.htm
It is a big boost for Bangladesh army--the youngest in the region. Even your Janes article mentions the fact that China is going to assist Bangladesh in inducting modern artilery and air defence missiles. These are no small things for a young army. You cannot have a strong army overnight. This is an incremental process.
I was looking for a strategy to counter a large army but we are discussing statistics. If statistics is the only indicator of military power then India would not modernize its army to counter China. In 80s China had the 2nd largest army(4 million) on Earth. What did India have? If India's 3000 tanks and equal number of artilery pieces are the deciding factors in Indo-Bangla conflict then why don't the Indians take into account China's 10,000 tanks and the equal, if not more, number of artilery pieces and stop modernizing their army because it's hopeless.
India has borders with other nations and a significant chunk of its military men and machines are scattered around the borders. They cannot concentrate their military in one particular point.......never. The same goes for China. Then there is a question of terrain. Bangladesh is a riverine country and hard for troops movement.
These are the points I wanted to bring into the discussion to make an analysis. With adequate anti tank missiles, RPGs, mine fields, and suport from artilery units, it is possible for Bangladesh to repulse a tank attack.
Of course, the Col. wanted to discuss the entire gamut of the war but I was looking for a particular area--tank battle.
I am still open for a discussion. I'll answer questions raised during the course of the discussion. Thank you.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Q. Nobody wants to attack BD
Ans. Says who?
Bangladesh constitutes a major weak point in India's security. Due to bangladesh's geographical location, India's N-E region is isolated from the mainland. In the event of a conflict between India and China, the geographical isolation of N-E will jeopardize India's war preparation due to difficulty in:
1. Troops mobilisation and
2. Logistics supply
India needs a secure and unhindered route through Bangladesh for uniterrupted military supply to the war zone.
The choice for Bangladesh
There are two choices for Bangladesh:
1. Allow transit to India for troops mobilisation and antagonize China
2. Reject transit demand and antagonize India
Due to defence supplies and economic help and other geopolitical considerations, Bangladesh can hardly afford to go against China. In such a case, a threat from India is very real.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I am sorry for that Mudy. I forgot one has to register to read.
I will only post a few samples of what a Beedi is asking Chinamen:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I expect Col. Yu would come forward and give me a analytical reply to understand the situation below. I am looking for constructive analysis ONLY.
Bangladesh has a small tank force with 250 tanks( 1 more regiment is on order). But India has almost 500-800 tanks in its Eastern Command. We are at a disadvantageous position here. The only good thing is most of the terrain of Bangladesh is unsuitable for a tank battle. The Northern region of the country is a heaven for tank battle though. We are trying to understand, under this circumstances, what are the options available for Bangladesh to defeat a superior tank force?
The point to be remembered here is that, Bangladesh is not going to purchase so many tanks in near future. Only one regiment, 48 tanks, has been ordered and the existing tank fleet is going through an upgradation process.
Waiting for constructive replies. Thank you.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://www.thedailystar.net/2004/04/16/d4041601055.htm
It is a big boost for Bangladesh army--the youngest in the region. Even your Janes article mentions the fact that China is going to assist Bangladesh in inducting modern artilery and air defence missiles. These are no small things for a young army. You cannot have a strong army overnight. This is an incremental process.
I was looking for a strategy to counter a large army but we are discussing statistics. If statistics is the only indicator of military power then India would not modernize its army to counter China. In 80s China had the 2nd largest army(4 million) on Earth. What did India have? If India's 3000 tanks and equal number of artilery pieces are the deciding factors in Indo-Bangla conflict then why don't the Indians take into account China's 10,000 tanks and the equal, if not more, number of artilery pieces and stop modernizing their army because it's hopeless.
India has borders with other nations and a significant chunk of its military men and machines are scattered around the borders. They cannot concentrate their military in one particular point.......never. The same goes for China. Then there is a question of terrain. Bangladesh is a riverine country and hard for troops movement.
These are the points I wanted to bring into the discussion to make an analysis. With adequate anti tank missiles, RPGs, mine fields, and suport from artilery units, it is possible for Bangladesh to repulse a tank attack.
Of course, the Col. wanted to discuss the entire gamut of the war but I was looking for a particular area--tank battle.
I am still open for a discussion. I'll answer questions raised during the course of the discussion. Thank you.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Q. Nobody wants to attack BD
Ans. Says who?
Bangladesh constitutes a major weak point in India's security. Due to bangladesh's geographical location, India's N-E region is isolated from the mainland. In the event of a conflict between India and China, the geographical isolation of N-E will jeopardize India's war preparation due to difficulty in:
1. Troops mobilisation and
2. Logistics supply
India needs a secure and unhindered route through Bangladesh for uniterrupted military supply to the war zone.
The choice for Bangladesh
There are two choices for Bangladesh:
1. Allow transit to India for troops mobilisation and antagonize China
2. Reject transit demand and antagonize India
Due to defence supplies and economic help and other geopolitical considerations, Bangladesh can hardly afford to go against China. In such a case, a threat from India is very real.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->