12-15-2005, 08:19 AM
Ben Ami,
No, I'm not married to anyone European.
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I didn't mean they <i>lived</i> in boles of trees. I meant that that's what the material they used in building the walls of their halls looked like in the pictures.
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I've already answered your question on how I knew anything about the preChristian peoples of Europe. So are you referring to your question about the earliest date of the buildings of Germanic people? As in:
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I have none. Except for the French Revolution, WWI, WWII, I haven't memorised any dates in European history.
I didn't mean to imply that their buildings must have been BCE (I have no idea if they were BCE or CE), all I meant to say was that they did have large buildings whose appearance don't look to have had any Greek or Roman influences or to have used their construction methods.
They couldn't write, so no literature. But they did pass down stories and songs (until this too was cut off by Christianity). What's wrong with that? It's the same as Africans and Native Americans and others did, their way of retaining their cultural and religious history.
It's colonial thinking to demarcate along the lines of civilised and uncivilised. But I'm repeating myself.
I really don't see what's so great about many well-known 'civilizations', and why they should be proof of great minds. The Greek (eg. Sparta) and especially Roman civilisations took many slaves. Rome was built on slavery. Yes they weren't racists, but they caused misery to non-Romans. Egypt had slaves too. Persia, though said not to have slaves, did take over other lands and impose their rule. (I do not know enough about Aztecs, Mayans and Incans to comment, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.)
The use of slaves doesn't attest to a great mind. Great minds are those that accomplish things without hurting others, ones that do good for the whole world, that are not restricted solely to thoughts of one's own country, but wish to bring help all the world world for all times.
Hindu and possibly Chinese civilisation come off the best in my opinion of the ones I know. Hindu thought and culture passed to South-East Asia not because it was imposed on others, but because others chose to adopt it.
No, I'm not married to anyone European.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Large boles of trees perhaps<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't mean they <i>lived</i> in boles of trees. I meant that that's what the material they used in building the walls of their halls looked like in the pictures.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->you didnt answer mine though (from my previous reply)<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've already answered your question on how I knew anything about the preChristian peoples of Europe. So are you referring to your question about the earliest date of the buildings of Germanic people? As in:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->i asked you for before clown (b.c.) buildings and cities and literature and music from non greekoroman europe.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I have none. Except for the French Revolution, WWI, WWII, I haven't memorised any dates in European history.
I didn't mean to imply that their buildings must have been BCE (I have no idea if they were BCE or CE), all I meant to say was that they did have large buildings whose appearance don't look to have had any Greek or Roman influences or to have used their construction methods.
They couldn't write, so no literature. But they did pass down stories and songs (until this too was cut off by Christianity). What's wrong with that? It's the same as Africans and Native Americans and others did, their way of retaining their cultural and religious history.
It's colonial thinking to demarcate along the lines of civilised and uncivilised. But I'm repeating myself.
I really don't see what's so great about many well-known 'civilizations', and why they should be proof of great minds. The Greek (eg. Sparta) and especially Roman civilisations took many slaves. Rome was built on slavery. Yes they weren't racists, but they caused misery to non-Romans. Egypt had slaves too. Persia, though said not to have slaves, did take over other lands and impose their rule. (I do not know enough about Aztecs, Mayans and Incans to comment, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.)
The use of slaves doesn't attest to a great mind. Great minds are those that accomplish things without hurting others, ones that do good for the whole world, that are not restricted solely to thoughts of one's own country, but wish to bring help all the world world for all times.
Hindu and possibly Chinese civilisation come off the best in my opinion of the ones I know. Hindu thought and culture passed to South-East Asia not because it was imposed on others, but because others chose to adopt it.