01-16-2006, 01:28 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dalit International -2
The buzz word is: Pluralism; the framework is 'Human Rights'
Yes, 'Human Rights' as espoused by the US Department of State through annual reports attributed to USCIRF. More on this on subsequent parts of the Dalit International.
What motivates and activates Dalit International into a solidarity network?
"All of this is being pushed by Christian groups, who regard Dalits as their most promising constituency. And it's money that attracts Indian converts to this malign programme. Do you imagine that people like Dayal would have ever otherwise travelled Club class, stayed in five-star hotels in NYC and rubbed shoulders with bona fide whites (not a racist in sight among them of course)? And the idea that societies like the US and UK where racism is rife, but its reportage wondrously controlled (I have thirty five years personal experience in Europe) is going to ensure equality for Dalits is laughable except that it is serious for the future integrity of India. These converts are not stupid, they are simply empowered by tainted money, the only way they could make a living and a very good one at that. In practice, few of them are employable to actually do a job of work." (Prof. Gautam Sen, in private communication, 16 Jan. 2006).
Pluralism is the smokescreen for the proselytization efforts couched as 'dalit international'.
This word makes for surprising concordance in the choice of phrases for two apparently disparate individuals: One is Diana Eck and the other is Mike Ghouse.
What links both of them? California Textbook Controversy <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->âeither directly as in the case of Diana Eck or through Raju Rajagopal in the case of Mike Ghouse.
The title of the website is: Pluralism Project maintained by Diana Eck.
Diana Eck is Professor of Comparative Religion and Indian Studies; Director, The Pluralism Project in Harvard University. "In 1996, Diana L. Eck was appointed to a U.S. State Department Advisory Committee on Religious Freedom Abroad, a twenty-member commission charged with advising the Secretary of State on enhancing and protecting religious freedom in the overall context of human rights. In 1998, Eck received the National Humanities Medal from President Clinton and the National Endowment for the Humanities for her work on American religious pluralism. " http://www.pluralism.org/about/eck_cv.php
Many are the sources of funds for this project. "In the fall of 2000, the Pluralism Project was awarded a renewal grant from the Ford Foundation that enables us to continue our work documenting America's religious diversity. We will continue to fund affiliate departments and researchers, along with offering small teaching development grants for high school teachers." http://www.pluralism.org/about/history.php
Diana Eck keeps a close tab on the Witzel & Co. involvement in the California Sixth Grade Textbook review. The email exchanges and notes on the subject are rapidly posted on her website under the category called "Religious Diversity News -- California Textbook Controversy). http://tinyurl.com/cp69f
http://www.pluralism.org/news/index.php?xr...versy&sort=DESC
Mike Ghouse wears many hats. He is Director, United Nations Association - Promoting UNICEF and UN's Charter; and also Director, Pratham - Literacy for every child in India. Rings a bell? Pratham is an ace project of naxal groups in India for catching the children young and telling them that the greatest hero is KPN. Their association with AID Inc., Maryland or ASHA for Education charities based in USA is another long episode. He is also President of Foundation for Pluralism. He is Advisory Board Member of Free Muslims Coalition based in USA. See more at http://www.freemuslims.org/about/ghouse.php http://www.freemuslims.org/about/board.php Mike Ghouse is a muslim from Bangalore and moderates two lists: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/foundationforpluralism
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dallasindians
Mike Ghouse's most important link with India is provided by the fact that he is a sponsor of Promise of India Appeal in 2003. He signed his sponsorship on behalf of Foundation for Pluralism, Dallas, TX, USA. http://tinyurl.com/7827j http://www.promiseofindia.org/AppealList.c...eld=ALL&string=Â Promise of India is the initiative of Raju Rajagopal. Raju Rajagopal was an early supporter of the Witzel &Co. letters of Nov. 8 and Nov. 26 in regard to the California Sixth Grade Textbook review.
On DalitInternational list (Dalit Digest 869), Mike Ghouse introduced himself in the following ringing terms, in response to a query by Tamizh Selvan concerned about the appeal for attending the 12 January SBE meeting in California:
Message: 3
 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:48:01 +0530
 From: "Thamizh Selvan.JM" < selvan@isac.gov.in>
Subject: Re: Give Hindus a fair chance
My Dear Mike,
Can they oppose the caste system and untouchability also?
Hindutva and their allies, Yes, they have been given 5 years rule min INDIA.
During this period what they have done to eliminate caste & untouchability?
Did they passed, or at least wanted pass a law to Ban caste system?
Did they wanted to pass a law, to 'Marriages within caste groups are
punishable by capitol punishment?' or wanted to pass a cover-up law to hold the caste, called 'Uniform civil code?'.
Where the Social inequality & untouchability, social pain and torture,
exists in full swing, the Uniform civil code' invariably remove the protection given by
the law to the suffering untouchables across the country!
It is up to you to you judge the intention of the so called HINDUTVA!
Mr.Mike, please bring out more details about you, and your view and sympathy
towards this forum.
Thanks!
Thamizh Selvan.JM
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Quoting Mike Ghouse < MIKEGHOUSE@aol.com>:
> All the "presumed" Hindu Fascist groups have an opportunity to clean
> their slate, and an opportunity to tell the truth about them. It
> should be very easy to make this part of their manifesto.
>
> That they believe in India.
> That they treat every Indian with "full" dignity.
> That they will un-subscribe to the extremist ideology.
> That they don't believe in supremacy of any Indian over the other.
> That they will oppose any idea that treats any Indian less than their
> own friends like Mr.Modi.
>
> Let's allways keep on mind that Hindutva has nothing to do with
> Hinduism. Hinduism is the universe that India is, Hindutva has
> members who are Hindu, but they coflict with the Pluralist ethos of
> Hinduism. Same as the fundamenatalist Christians or Muslims, who do
> not represent Islam in general.
>
> Mike Ghouse
> DallasIndians@yahoogroups.com
> FoundationforPluralism@yahoogroups.com<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The buzz word is: Pluralism; the framework is 'Human Rights'
Yes, 'Human Rights' as espoused by the US Department of State through annual reports attributed to USCIRF. More on this on subsequent parts of the Dalit International.
What motivates and activates Dalit International into a solidarity network?
"All of this is being pushed by Christian groups, who regard Dalits as their most promising constituency. And it's money that attracts Indian converts to this malign programme. Do you imagine that people like Dayal would have ever otherwise travelled Club class, stayed in five-star hotels in NYC and rubbed shoulders with bona fide whites (not a racist in sight among them of course)? And the idea that societies like the US and UK where racism is rife, but its reportage wondrously controlled (I have thirty five years personal experience in Europe) is going to ensure equality for Dalits is laughable except that it is serious for the future integrity of India. These converts are not stupid, they are simply empowered by tainted money, the only way they could make a living and a very good one at that. In practice, few of them are employable to actually do a job of work." (Prof. Gautam Sen, in private communication, 16 Jan. 2006).
Pluralism is the smokescreen for the proselytization efforts couched as 'dalit international'.
This word makes for surprising concordance in the choice of phrases for two apparently disparate individuals: One is Diana Eck and the other is Mike Ghouse.
What links both of them? California Textbook Controversy <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->âeither directly as in the case of Diana Eck or through Raju Rajagopal in the case of Mike Ghouse.The title of the website is: Pluralism Project maintained by Diana Eck.
Diana Eck is Professor of Comparative Religion and Indian Studies; Director, The Pluralism Project in Harvard University. "In 1996, Diana L. Eck was appointed to a U.S. State Department Advisory Committee on Religious Freedom Abroad, a twenty-member commission charged with advising the Secretary of State on enhancing and protecting religious freedom in the overall context of human rights. In 1998, Eck received the National Humanities Medal from President Clinton and the National Endowment for the Humanities for her work on American religious pluralism. " http://www.pluralism.org/about/eck_cv.php
Many are the sources of funds for this project. "In the fall of 2000, the Pluralism Project was awarded a renewal grant from the Ford Foundation that enables us to continue our work documenting America's religious diversity. We will continue to fund affiliate departments and researchers, along with offering small teaching development grants for high school teachers." http://www.pluralism.org/about/history.php
Diana Eck keeps a close tab on the Witzel & Co. involvement in the California Sixth Grade Textbook review. The email exchanges and notes on the subject are rapidly posted on her website under the category called "Religious Diversity News -- California Textbook Controversy). http://tinyurl.com/cp69f
http://www.pluralism.org/news/index.php?xr...versy&sort=DESC
Mike Ghouse wears many hats. He is Director, United Nations Association - Promoting UNICEF and UN's Charter; and also Director, Pratham - Literacy for every child in India. Rings a bell? Pratham is an ace project of naxal groups in India for catching the children young and telling them that the greatest hero is KPN. Their association with AID Inc., Maryland or ASHA for Education charities based in USA is another long episode. He is also President of Foundation for Pluralism. He is Advisory Board Member of Free Muslims Coalition based in USA. See more at http://www.freemuslims.org/about/ghouse.php http://www.freemuslims.org/about/board.php Mike Ghouse is a muslim from Bangalore and moderates two lists: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/foundationforpluralism
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dallasindians
Mike Ghouse's most important link with India is provided by the fact that he is a sponsor of Promise of India Appeal in 2003. He signed his sponsorship on behalf of Foundation for Pluralism, Dallas, TX, USA. http://tinyurl.com/7827j http://www.promiseofindia.org/AppealList.c...eld=ALL&string=Â Promise of India is the initiative of Raju Rajagopal. Raju Rajagopal was an early supporter of the Witzel &Co. letters of Nov. 8 and Nov. 26 in regard to the California Sixth Grade Textbook review.
On DalitInternational list (Dalit Digest 869), Mike Ghouse introduced himself in the following ringing terms, in response to a query by Tamizh Selvan concerned about the appeal for attending the 12 January SBE meeting in California:
Message: 3
 Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:48:01 +0530
 From: "Thamizh Selvan.JM" < selvan@isac.gov.in>
Subject: Re: Give Hindus a fair chance
My Dear Mike,
Can they oppose the caste system and untouchability also?
Hindutva and their allies, Yes, they have been given 5 years rule min INDIA.
During this period what they have done to eliminate caste & untouchability?
Did they passed, or at least wanted pass a law to Ban caste system?
Did they wanted to pass a law, to 'Marriages within caste groups are
punishable by capitol punishment?' or wanted to pass a cover-up law to hold the caste, called 'Uniform civil code?'.
Where the Social inequality & untouchability, social pain and torture,
exists in full swing, the Uniform civil code' invariably remove the protection given by
the law to the suffering untouchables across the country!
It is up to you to you judge the intention of the so called HINDUTVA!
Mr.Mike, please bring out more details about you, and your view and sympathy
towards this forum.
Thanks!
Thamizh Selvan.JM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quoting Mike Ghouse < MIKEGHOUSE@aol.com>:
> All the "presumed" Hindu Fascist groups have an opportunity to clean
> their slate, and an opportunity to tell the truth about them. It
> should be very easy to make this part of their manifesto.
>
> That they believe in India.
> That they treat every Indian with "full" dignity.
> That they will un-subscribe to the extremist ideology.
> That they don't believe in supremacy of any Indian over the other.
> That they will oppose any idea that treats any Indian less than their
> own friends like Mr.Modi.
>
> Let's allways keep on mind that Hindutva has nothing to do with
> Hinduism. Hinduism is the universe that India is, Hindutva has
> members who are Hindu, but they coflict with the Pluralist ethos of
> Hinduism. Same as the fundamenatalist Christians or Muslims, who do
> not represent Islam in general.
>
> Mike Ghouse
> DallasIndians@yahoogroups.com
> FoundationforPluralism@yahoogroups.com<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->