<!--QuoteBegin-NANDIBUM+Jun 3 2006, 01:13 AM-->QUOTE(NANDIBUM @ Jun 3 2006, 01:13 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->many of indian tribes were given Irani origin unnecessary as when you see these Parthian Jats or Azats (Z and j sound simly changes from ossetic to indian group)who always called them Jats and never written as parthians till they reached parthia were unnecessary called as Indo parthians .Their first King Arkesh was a native of ghandhar and left bacteria on his difference with King Deodat.These Jats always called them Aryans and ruled Indo parthian wast Empire for nearly 400 years.
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Sindi is a kurdish surname which is definitely from punjab-sindh area but these people are now classified as an iranian subgroup based on language. Probably we are seeing an overlay of classical Iranian influence. same should be the case with the armenian ossetian azats as well. we should fit these people into the kassite/mittani/hittite/sindoi/hrvat paradigm. kushan paradigm shift is also relevant. indo-parthian may be a similar case.
Just as Parsees in Mumbai do not speak iranian, new generation indic migrants into ME would adopt the iranian elements, these elements themselves being derivable from kashyapamir area which is centre stage for the archaic dardic, now overlain wth sanskrit. baluchistani shibi from shaivaite kashmir
even name of cyrus (koroush) is related to kuru firmly located within india. thus we have both uttara kuru and uttara madra extensions of madra and kuru in india. hemphill's tarim craniometric and oppenheimer's genetic studies indicate these populations were derived from indus valley.. madri wife of pandu
properly, central asia should be seen as backyard of india and as the staging ground for europe. definite central asian elements in india are few, while we have enigmatic hybrid central asian states in balkan heartland. albanian.. serb. croat, hungarian. romanian, etc.. Haplo I, only indigene haplo in europe, is highest in sardinians and north europe... obviously there was a deep penetration of post-ice age R1a into the european heartland leaving hg I in the periphery. even the racist spencer wells gives dates of 11 BP for R1a in europe and correlates to ice age expansion. it ws left o oppenheimer to give the india connection.
Armenian azats, aka alans, did dramatically impinge upon rome, europe and even N Africa in some v dramatic movements.
the only Indigene Steppe elements are altaic and uralic, with indian hybrid gypsies taking on the lifestyle to expedite movement further west...
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Sindi is a kurdish surname which is definitely from punjab-sindh area but these people are now classified as an iranian subgroup based on language. Probably we are seeing an overlay of classical Iranian influence. same should be the case with the armenian ossetian azats as well. we should fit these people into the kassite/mittani/hittite/sindoi/hrvat paradigm. kushan paradigm shift is also relevant. indo-parthian may be a similar case.
Just as Parsees in Mumbai do not speak iranian, new generation indic migrants into ME would adopt the iranian elements, these elements themselves being derivable from kashyapamir area which is centre stage for the archaic dardic, now overlain wth sanskrit. baluchistani shibi from shaivaite kashmir
even name of cyrus (koroush) is related to kuru firmly located within india. thus we have both uttara kuru and uttara madra extensions of madra and kuru in india. hemphill's tarim craniometric and oppenheimer's genetic studies indicate these populations were derived from indus valley.. madri wife of pandu
properly, central asia should be seen as backyard of india and as the staging ground for europe. definite central asian elements in india are few, while we have enigmatic hybrid central asian states in balkan heartland. albanian.. serb. croat, hungarian. romanian, etc.. Haplo I, only indigene haplo in europe, is highest in sardinians and north europe... obviously there was a deep penetration of post-ice age R1a into the european heartland leaving hg I in the periphery. even the racist spencer wells gives dates of 11 BP for R1a in europe and correlates to ice age expansion. it ws left o oppenheimer to give the india connection.
Armenian azats, aka alans, did dramatically impinge upon rome, europe and even N Africa in some v dramatic movements.
the only Indigene Steppe elements are altaic and uralic, with indian hybrid gypsies taking on the lifestyle to expedite movement further west...