05-07-2006, 09:59 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-ben_ami+May 7 2006, 07:46 PM-->QUOTE(ben_ami @ May 7 2006, 07:46 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Surya+May 7 2006, 05:45 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Surya @ May 7 2006, 05:45 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->This dearth of objectivity is why ancient Indian history is not treated seriously by academics.
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even the aryan invasion theory was successfully concocted because we never explicitly mentioned where we came from or where we (or part of our peoples) emigrated or when. had we specified everything objectively and explicitly, the canard of AIT could never have been constructed in the first place.
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Ben you may have noticed that even then Jews do not have a proper sense of history. They believe in mythological tales of the "exodus" which is completely unscientific to say the least, and of delusional ideas as god talking to a messenger to wipe out egypt etc. This has been promoted and believed in as 'history' itself. The whole of old testament is mythology. Where is the sense of history in the Jews, or even christians for that matter? Each gospel gives you a different 'version' of this so-called 'history'.
What the Indians had was quite a clear cut idea of documenting the 'what' part rather than the 'when' part. But if you look closer at the Ramayana or the Mahabharatha, you will still find that time and location was clearly documented. Valmiki time and again mentions which constellation or phase of the moon it was at every onset of an important event.
Also, Indians had meticulously documented the arguments and counter-arguments between a purvapakshi and siddhanthi when it came to Buddhist/Vaidika schools. The Upanishads were such documentations of the 'conferences' such as in the Brihadaranyaka upanishad. There is no dating of these events with respect to Jesus' birth. But it definitely can be found out when an event happened if there are astrological/astronomical references in the text.
Sunder.
PS: Sri Rama's horoscope should be mentioned in the Ramayana. Does anyone have a software to map a Christian date to the given horoscope? I will see if I can post the Jathakam (appa knows it by heart.)
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even the aryan invasion theory was successfully concocted because we never explicitly mentioned where we came from or where we (or part of our peoples) emigrated or when. had we specified everything objectively and explicitly, the canard of AIT could never have been constructed in the first place.
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Ben you may have noticed that even then Jews do not have a proper sense of history. They believe in mythological tales of the "exodus" which is completely unscientific to say the least, and of delusional ideas as god talking to a messenger to wipe out egypt etc. This has been promoted and believed in as 'history' itself. The whole of old testament is mythology. Where is the sense of history in the Jews, or even christians for that matter? Each gospel gives you a different 'version' of this so-called 'history'.
What the Indians had was quite a clear cut idea of documenting the 'what' part rather than the 'when' part. But if you look closer at the Ramayana or the Mahabharatha, you will still find that time and location was clearly documented. Valmiki time and again mentions which constellation or phase of the moon it was at every onset of an important event.
Also, Indians had meticulously documented the arguments and counter-arguments between a purvapakshi and siddhanthi when it came to Buddhist/Vaidika schools. The Upanishads were such documentations of the 'conferences' such as in the Brihadaranyaka upanishad. There is no dating of these events with respect to Jesus' birth. But it definitely can be found out when an event happened if there are astrological/astronomical references in the text.
Sunder.
PS: Sri Rama's horoscope should be mentioned in the Ramayana. Does anyone have a software to map a Christian date to the given horoscope? I will see if I can post the Jathakam (appa knows it by heart.)