05-14-2006, 08:41 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ravi Choudhary is a respected name as far as jat history is concerned.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
so you think. i personally am not inclined to believe this from his posts/views in this thread and the other shaka-kushana thread. however, i reserve the right to contradict myself if proved otherwise (wow..never knew i could construct such lucid sentences).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Contrary to the likes of Airavat Singh who could see jats only in mughal times,he reasons and tries to dispel the myths created and propogated over years.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
maybe. i was comparing airavat with dahiya not ravi. re-read my post.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Some times he may be wrong in his accessment as most of us can be but he is head and shoulders above than other fiction writers called historians.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i'll gloss over this one. calm down.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Chandergupt marya was a jatt,do you find some evidence suggesting otherwise.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol. if the jat ethnic genealogy and history was so carefully or meticulously documented as your proposition forebodes it is, i would never have turned around to ask you - well, how do you know if he was ever a 'jatt?' i've read the wikipedia article on chandragupta maurya. if you're still interested in learning why i think his origins are still unclear, i'd recommend you start a thread putting forth your arguments to the effect why you think he is a 'jatt' instead of expressing surprise at how the world could be any different.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Alexander paternal genetics is related to jats ,sorry it is not claimed by jats but visit any Romanian history site and you will find all about it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
pass. *ok can't resist.* even if this were true it does not prove that alexander was a jat. in this post it is successfully argued that modern archaeogenetics and genetic studies '... imply that East Europeans are closer to upper caste Indians than they are to West Europeans!'
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Jats never claimed about jatt ancesstory of greats like ghandhi,tendulakar,madam cama and others pls note that.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
being a jat, i claim they were jats. i'll prove this too very shortly (even if i can't, i can still continue to claim them). you wait. you just wait. just wait (note: ravi has claimed my ancestors as being jat in another thread and i'm forced to accept this to avoid a paradox from emerging here).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pls post some comments on my post about this tendency of overlooking or downgrading jatt past and reasons given by me for why were they the inhabitants of indus valley civilization which I wrongly posted in marathi history thread.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
seriously, i have no clue about jats being the original inhabitants of IVC. i'm inclined to go with all the terms Dhu has used to refer to such people (from his readings) and if he has ever called them jat then they must be jat. remind me to send him a pm enquiring about what else 'jat' connotes to - i <b>must </b>rid myself of this prejudice of taking Dhu's word to be the gospel truth and ravi's word as trite.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->where I went wrong in my reasoning.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
look above.
so you think. i personally am not inclined to believe this from his posts/views in this thread and the other shaka-kushana thread. however, i reserve the right to contradict myself if proved otherwise (wow..never knew i could construct such lucid sentences).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Contrary to the likes of Airavat Singh who could see jats only in mughal times,he reasons and tries to dispel the myths created and propogated over years.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
maybe. i was comparing airavat with dahiya not ravi. re-read my post.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Some times he may be wrong in his accessment as most of us can be but he is head and shoulders above than other fiction writers called historians.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
i'll gloss over this one. calm down.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Chandergupt marya was a jatt,do you find some evidence suggesting otherwise.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol. if the jat ethnic genealogy and history was so carefully or meticulously documented as your proposition forebodes it is, i would never have turned around to ask you - well, how do you know if he was ever a 'jatt?' i've read the wikipedia article on chandragupta maurya. if you're still interested in learning why i think his origins are still unclear, i'd recommend you start a thread putting forth your arguments to the effect why you think he is a 'jatt' instead of expressing surprise at how the world could be any different.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Alexander paternal genetics is related to jats ,sorry it is not claimed by jats but visit any Romanian history site and you will find all about it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
pass. *ok can't resist.* even if this were true it does not prove that alexander was a jat. in this post it is successfully argued that modern archaeogenetics and genetic studies '... imply that East Europeans are closer to upper caste Indians than they are to West Europeans!'
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Jats never claimed about jatt ancesstory of greats like ghandhi,tendulakar,madam cama and others pls note that.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
being a jat, i claim they were jats. i'll prove this too very shortly (even if i can't, i can still continue to claim them). you wait. you just wait. just wait (note: ravi has claimed my ancestors as being jat in another thread and i'm forced to accept this to avoid a paradox from emerging here).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pls post some comments on my post about this tendency of overlooking or downgrading jatt past and reasons given by me for why were they the inhabitants of indus valley civilization which I wrongly posted in marathi history thread.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
seriously, i have no clue about jats being the original inhabitants of IVC. i'm inclined to go with all the terms Dhu has used to refer to such people (from his readings) and if he has ever called them jat then they must be jat. remind me to send him a pm enquiring about what else 'jat' connotes to - i <b>must </b>rid myself of this prejudice of taking Dhu's word to be the gospel truth and ravi's word as trite.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->where I went wrong in my reasoning.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
look above.