07-12-2006, 01:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jul 11 2006, 11:56 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 11 2006, 11:56 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-jayshastri+Jul 11 2006, 10:54 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jayshastri @ Jul 11 2006, 10:54 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Everyone here has the same reaction i read after 1993 blast, after Kargil and after every other terrorist attacks. the knowledgeable ones on this forum should have a better reaction than people on the street. sack manmohan, incompetent government, crapy police, blah blah blah.
If at all, people should come up with (or atleast start thinking towards) practical and simple plan of how to prevent this. Simply ranting and being angry on others is not gona prevent further attacks.
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First reaction is anger or sadness, then cursing, and then happy days are here again. A nice article from B.Raman. blah blah blah....
We have to go through complete ritual and hope our near dear don't make list in future.
How to protect future attack? I know we can't do anything. But anyway my regulars exercise to list few.
1) Stop Muslim appeasement.
2) Arrest politician who are terrorist, who harbor or share dais with known terrorist. Death penality to them with swift court.
3) No bail to terrorist sympathizers.
4) Punish media who sing praise for terrorist.
5) Seal borders, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
6) No peace process with Pakistan or Bangladesh.
7) Death to those who harbor or give financial or logistics support to terrorist.
Jayshastri, you know Indian govt won't implement any of these.
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thank you for taking my call seriously enough, to respond. I hope more people can join in and we can start constructive and logical discussion on how to fix india.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jul 11 2006, 11:56 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 11 2006, 11:56 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->First reaction is anger or sadness, then cursing, and then happy days are here again<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For comon men with limited inteligence not for people on this forum. People on this forum are special breed of indians. We are patriotic, inteligent and most of all interested enough in the well being of india to take the trouble of researching and writing our thoughts here.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jul 11 2006, 11:56 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 11 2006, 11:56 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->How to protect future attack? I know we can't do anything.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->We most certain can. may be not as soon or may be not in the way we know how to, but we most certainly can. Can you imagine how impossible the romans would have thought it to be to move water across the rough terrain? but they were determined to do it, so they 'invented' aquaducts, fountains, and water wheels (no one would have though in those times water could be made to flow upwards)
1) Stop Muslim appeasement
I agree. Unless India becomes a dictatorship or anarchy it is not possible to achieve that goal in a single stroke. So we must ask who all appease Muslims? Politicians. Why? Muslims are one strong Vote bank. Hindus are fragmented vote banks. If hindus become a bigger, stronger and most importantly reliable vote bank would the politician appease hindus? and in doing so can they stop appeasing Muslims? .. lets discuss.
2) Arrest politician who are terrorist, who harbor or share dais with known terrorist. Death penality to them with swift court.
Right. But these people are untouchables because they have supporters who can cause serious damage to innocent civilians disrupt regular life. So in order to punish them, they must be made to âfall from graceâ from their supporters first. Once they are separated they could be prosecuted safely. So, who are these politicians? Who are their supporters? What do the supporters support them for?
3) No bail to terrorist sympathizers.
Stronger unified public opinion is required to create and maintain a law to do this. lets discuss how.
4) Punish media who sing praise for terrorist.
Again possible in anarchy difficult in democracy as it is difficult to make a law like that. They might not be punished by law but could be punished by society. How? They could be distinctly, consistently and united identified as terrorist sympathizers by blogs, papers and TV media. Their reasoning for the sympathy should be found out and revealed in blogs, papers and TV and intellectual and emotional counter argument should be provided against their beliefs.
5) Seal borders, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Not physically possible by the government or army. People living on the borders should be given incentives to report and ward off intruders.
6) No peace process with Pakistan or Bangladesh.
Agree. Intellectual and emotional argument should be prepared in support of this and repeatedly brought out in blogs, Papers and TV.
7) Death to those who harbor or give financial or logistics support to terrorist.
Again not possible in Democracy unless such law is made. Unified and strong public opinion must be created in support of this. ..lets discuss how.
Jayshastri, you know Indian govt won't implement any of these.
If all the people want it badly enough. They would. ..lets discuss how.
If at all, people should come up with (or atleast start thinking towards) practical and simple plan of how to prevent this. Simply ranting and being angry on others is not gona prevent further attacks.
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First reaction is anger or sadness, then cursing, and then happy days are here again. A nice article from B.Raman. blah blah blah....
We have to go through complete ritual and hope our near dear don't make list in future.
How to protect future attack? I know we can't do anything. But anyway my regulars exercise to list few.
1) Stop Muslim appeasement.
2) Arrest politician who are terrorist, who harbor or share dais with known terrorist. Death penality to them with swift court.
3) No bail to terrorist sympathizers.
4) Punish media who sing praise for terrorist.
5) Seal borders, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
6) No peace process with Pakistan or Bangladesh.
7) Death to those who harbor or give financial or logistics support to terrorist.
Jayshastri, you know Indian govt won't implement any of these.
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thank you for taking my call seriously enough, to respond. I hope more people can join in and we can start constructive and logical discussion on how to fix india.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jul 11 2006, 11:56 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 11 2006, 11:56 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->First reaction is anger or sadness, then cursing, and then happy days are here again<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For comon men with limited inteligence not for people on this forum. People on this forum are special breed of indians. We are patriotic, inteligent and most of all interested enough in the well being of india to take the trouble of researching and writing our thoughts here.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Jul 11 2006, 11:56 PM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Jul 11 2006, 11:56 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->How to protect future attack? I know we can't do anything.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->We most certain can. may be not as soon or may be not in the way we know how to, but we most certainly can. Can you imagine how impossible the romans would have thought it to be to move water across the rough terrain? but they were determined to do it, so they 'invented' aquaducts, fountains, and water wheels (no one would have though in those times water could be made to flow upwards)
1) Stop Muslim appeasement
I agree. Unless India becomes a dictatorship or anarchy it is not possible to achieve that goal in a single stroke. So we must ask who all appease Muslims? Politicians. Why? Muslims are one strong Vote bank. Hindus are fragmented vote banks. If hindus become a bigger, stronger and most importantly reliable vote bank would the politician appease hindus? and in doing so can they stop appeasing Muslims? .. lets discuss.
2) Arrest politician who are terrorist, who harbor or share dais with known terrorist. Death penality to them with swift court.
Right. But these people are untouchables because they have supporters who can cause serious damage to innocent civilians disrupt regular life. So in order to punish them, they must be made to âfall from graceâ from their supporters first. Once they are separated they could be prosecuted safely. So, who are these politicians? Who are their supporters? What do the supporters support them for?
3) No bail to terrorist sympathizers.
Stronger unified public opinion is required to create and maintain a law to do this. lets discuss how.
4) Punish media who sing praise for terrorist.
Again possible in anarchy difficult in democracy as it is difficult to make a law like that. They might not be punished by law but could be punished by society. How? They could be distinctly, consistently and united identified as terrorist sympathizers by blogs, papers and TV media. Their reasoning for the sympathy should be found out and revealed in blogs, papers and TV and intellectual and emotional counter argument should be provided against their beliefs.
5) Seal borders, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Not physically possible by the government or army. People living on the borders should be given incentives to report and ward off intruders.
6) No peace process with Pakistan or Bangladesh.
Agree. Intellectual and emotional argument should be prepared in support of this and repeatedly brought out in blogs, Papers and TV.
7) Death to those who harbor or give financial or logistics support to terrorist.
Again not possible in Democracy unless such law is made. Unified and strong public opinion must be created in support of this. ..lets discuss how.
Jayshastri, you know Indian govt won't implement any of these.
If all the people want it badly enough. They would. ..lets discuss how.