08-29-2006, 10:42 AM
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When you go into a debate you either have to convince or be convinced.
Digvijay ji
Ten men can take a horse to a pool but no one can make it drink.
For a discussion you have to answer my points I have to answer yours. Right.
Now I asserted that as per the genealogy records and other observations by different historians and link of unbiased rajput sites.
Rajputs are the sons of different ruling tribes including huns ,gujjars ,bhars ,jats ,brahmans ,meds.Ahirs,dogras,nepali,etc.etc. who intermarried and adopted a new title rajput .Foreign rajput tribes as huns merged with native goups of rajput as chandels and a new social group was formed.
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Nandibum,
Genetics is a modern science which can prove kinship rather easily.
Genetics has shown that Indian gene pool has no markers from the genes of West Asian/European/Central Asian or any people from outside of India. This implies Huns, Foreigners are out. (So all your historians put together are wrong here).
In a 2006 paper by Sahoo et al which has a statistically a good sample of Indian population they have concluded :
" CONCLUSION
It is not necessary, based on the current evidence, to look beyond South Asia for the origins of the paternal heritage of the majority of Indians at the time of the onset of settled agriculture. The perennial concept of people, language, and agriculture arriving to India together through the northwest corridor does not hold up to close scrutiny. Recent claims for a linkage of haplogroups J2, L, R1a, and R2 with a contemporaneous origin for the majority of the Indian castes' paternal lineages from outside the subcontinent are rejected, although our findings do support a local origin of haplogroups F* and H."
Now what genetics has also shown is that the DNA of upper class women i.e rajputs etc is different then the DNA of lower class.
The DNA of lower class men does show an infusion from upper class men. What this implies is that upper class men and lower class women did have interactions while upper class women had no interactions with lower class men.
So all your theories of mair/meena/chandal/huns/foreigners becoming rajputs are just completely false.
-Digvijay
When you go into a debate you either have to convince or be convinced.
Digvijay ji
Ten men can take a horse to a pool but no one can make it drink.
For a discussion you have to answer my points I have to answer yours. Right.
Now I asserted that as per the genealogy records and other observations by different historians and link of unbiased rajput sites.
Rajputs are the sons of different ruling tribes including huns ,gujjars ,bhars ,jats ,brahmans ,meds.Ahirs,dogras,nepali,etc.etc. who intermarried and adopted a new title rajput .Foreign rajput tribes as huns merged with native goups of rajput as chandels and a new social group was formed.
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Nandibum,
Genetics is a modern science which can prove kinship rather easily.
Genetics has shown that Indian gene pool has no markers from the genes of West Asian/European/Central Asian or any people from outside of India. This implies Huns, Foreigners are out. (So all your historians put together are wrong here).
In a 2006 paper by Sahoo et al which has a statistically a good sample of Indian population they have concluded :
" CONCLUSION
It is not necessary, based on the current evidence, to look beyond South Asia for the origins of the paternal heritage of the majority of Indians at the time of the onset of settled agriculture. The perennial concept of people, language, and agriculture arriving to India together through the northwest corridor does not hold up to close scrutiny. Recent claims for a linkage of haplogroups J2, L, R1a, and R2 with a contemporaneous origin for the majority of the Indian castes' paternal lineages from outside the subcontinent are rejected, although our findings do support a local origin of haplogroups F* and H."
Now what genetics has also shown is that the DNA of upper class women i.e rajputs etc is different then the DNA of lower class.
The DNA of lower class men does show an infusion from upper class men. What this implies is that upper class men and lower class women did have interactions while upper class women had no interactions with lower class men.
So all your theories of mair/meena/chandal/huns/foreigners becoming rajputs are just completely false.
-Digvijay