08-29-2006, 10:19 PM
Slowly I am loosing the interest in having a debate with you
As you are lowering the standard of this discussion in to some freestyle match where you just want to score some points instead of intelluctual discussion by using lower higher cast and other substandard discussion.
Though you say of genetic findings but the the problem is you have not even read or understood these genetics results also.
I wish you could give some time on genetic thread on this frorum itself.
Genetic findings don't rule out the genetic influence of central asian people but just say that the influence is minor.And I don't say that Rajputs are made of huns only,I say that they are formed from different casts lower higher with some foreign tribes like huns.So they are more Indian from lower and upper casts less central asian with only few casts as huns or gujjars etc.
Sangmita and others report just varifies what I say have a look ...
We found that the influence of Central Asia on
the pre-existing gene pool was minor. The ages of accumulated
microsatellite variation in the majority of Indian haplogroups exceed
10,000â15,000 years, which attests to the antiquity of regional
differentiation....... R1a1 and R2 haplogroups
indicate demographic complexity that is inconsistent with a recent
single history. Associated microsatellite analyses of the.......
Here they find a minor influence which they don'y deny.
And for truth sake don't behave as if their was no huns in past historical records and no huns rajput in present day people.
And can you explain me which group you put Rajput in to while talking upper or lower casts.Upper or lower cast?
As sangmita and others find rajputs as a seprate group from uppercast having more IE genes as brahmans saying it is a seprate and more indian in nature than groups with IE genes.
Forther the mt -dna is fairly similar for Indian population unlike your suggestions.
And if you just want to talk about jat and rajputs than let us see your samples on jats or rajputs and see what truth says about your ideas.
Where we know that rajput ancesstary is derived from all genetic varieties Jats as per their custom and traditions hardly marry outside their social group.
Lastly I can't say more than what ramana has said in few words.
As you are lowering the standard of this discussion in to some freestyle match where you just want to score some points instead of intelluctual discussion by using lower higher cast and other substandard discussion.
Though you say of genetic findings but the the problem is you have not even read or understood these genetics results also.
I wish you could give some time on genetic thread on this frorum itself.
Genetic findings don't rule out the genetic influence of central asian people but just say that the influence is minor.And I don't say that Rajputs are made of huns only,I say that they are formed from different casts lower higher with some foreign tribes like huns.So they are more Indian from lower and upper casts less central asian with only few casts as huns or gujjars etc.
Sangmita and others report just varifies what I say have a look ...
We found that the influence of Central Asia on
the pre-existing gene pool was minor. The ages of accumulated
microsatellite variation in the majority of Indian haplogroups exceed
10,000â15,000 years, which attests to the antiquity of regional
differentiation....... R1a1 and R2 haplogroups
indicate demographic complexity that is inconsistent with a recent
single history. Associated microsatellite analyses of the.......
Here they find a minor influence which they don'y deny.
And for truth sake don't behave as if their was no huns in past historical records and no huns rajput in present day people.
And can you explain me which group you put Rajput in to while talking upper or lower casts.Upper or lower cast?
As sangmita and others find rajputs as a seprate group from uppercast having more IE genes as brahmans saying it is a seprate and more indian in nature than groups with IE genes.
Forther the mt -dna is fairly similar for Indian population unlike your suggestions.
And if you just want to talk about jat and rajputs than let us see your samples on jats or rajputs and see what truth says about your ideas.
Where we know that rajput ancesstary is derived from all genetic varieties Jats as per their custom and traditions hardly marry outside their social group.
Lastly I can't say more than what ramana has said in few words.