09-19-2006, 07:49 PM
Then Raju responds citing his own article to bolster his claims:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->This is a short list of Hindu attacks on Christians in India.
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PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS IN INDIA
The severity of the persecution of Christians in India is increasing. The world needs to pay more attention to this problem. Examine the following data and news reports:
HINDU ASSAULTS ON CHRISTIANS (YEAR 2001 ONLY)
Hindu attacks on Christians in India have increased dramatically during and after the rule of the BJP government in 1996. The following is a summary of crimes against Christians in the major states of India (2001):
State       Number of Crimes      Groups Responsible for the Crimes      Party in Power in the State
Gujarat             109                  VHP, RSS, Bajarang Dal                   BJP
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Response to Raju by xx:<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Remember the native American Holocaust, or the mass
murders of countless Hindus by Portuguese Colonists?
I'm still compiling that list of names. I should be done
sometime before Mr. Thomas leaves for Hell.
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another response to Raju Thomas:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dear Mr. Thomas,
I demand that you produce evidence for the libel that I persecuted Christians or retract your statement with apology.
The tolerance and prosperity of America has nothing to with Christianity. Christians indeed are intolerant here, as evident from the fact that American Hindus have to win a litigation each time they build a temple. Hey, ask the dead and bygone Native Americans, who were victims of American genocide, and they will tell you all about Christian tolerance. Teddy Roosevelt declared that extermination at the hands of white Christians was the best thing that happened to the Native Americans. Since you do not seem to have read much beyond the rants in the Bible and the bogus US State agency reports, I direct you to the following sources to understand better about Christian tolerance:
Dyer, T.G.: Theodore Roosevelt and the Idea of Race.
Stannard, D.E.: The Conquest of the New World â American Holocaust.
Ignorance is bliss only if you remain Christian.
I am ashamed to hear that one third of your family is Hindu. Did you inherit Hindu wisdom, dharma, tolerance and honesty from them? How can one propagate the evil cult of Christianity despite having some Hindu blood in him? Have you not learnt the notions of kaarunya from your Hindu family members? Does it ever prick your conscience that you follow Christianity, the most hate-filled, genocidal cult of all time?
Regards,
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and another one
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Virtually every one of the allegations you have listed has been shown to be fabrications time and again. You are behaving like a Bible-thumping Christian moron who cites the Bible as authority when the question is about the very inerrancy of the Bible.Â
But I notice that you have deftly side stepped the main observations that I made:
US government agencies reports regarding Christian persecution are as credible as their reports on the WMD. Only Christian racists and their stooges will believe those reports.
One can easily note that the reports are motivated because the same agencies, and the media you have cited, never submit such reports when Christians in the NE states persecute and ethnic cleanse Hindus, or when Muslims ethnic cleansed 700, 000 Hindus of Kashmir.
One must have an IQ less than 80 to believe that Hindus persecute Christians. After all, Indian constitution grants Christians special rights that Hindus do not have. If Christians are being persecuted, how come there is a mushrooming of churches and TV evangelical programs? But I guess that facts are of no utility to Christian fundamentalists.
Your comments that I had earlier summarized (cited below) are echoes of the racist remarks of white supremacists, and reflect a very low self-esteem on your part. Do you think it is worth surrendering one's self esteem, end up as the lick spittle of imperialists, all for ephemeral gains? Hey do you not know that African Americans too embraced the cult of their oppressors, yet Jefferson wanted to ship them back? Why do you think that a colored stooge would be treated any differently by his racist Christian masters once he has served their purpose of being an attack dog?
How does your conscience allow you to defend Christianity, and practise and propagate it when that evil cult has caused numerous genocides including the Holocaust that killed six million Jews?
You should not expect the honor of further emails from me unless you display the intellectual honesty, ethics and intelligence to reply to my points. I follow the old Tamil adage that even alms should be given only to a deserving beggar.
I am bcc-ing some of my friends. Some of them are very gracious and might write to you even if you do not deserve that! May be not if they choose to listen to the ancient Tamil Hindu sage Tiruvalluvar, who advised that one should not waste their words on those who lack comprehension!
Friends, even if you do not reply to Mr. Thomas, can you please send him a copy of "Idiot's Guide To Reading Comprehesion"? He needs help to save himself from Christ!
Regards,
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another response
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->George: I asked to get back to me if you have a US State Dept list of atrocities against Christians in US. Both in numbers and percentage of populations, the crimes against Christians in US are higher but no report!!!
Please don't quote your own article that too with numbers pulled from FICONA; it's like Bin Laden getting character certificate from Musharraf with Ayman Zawahri officiating the function.
My heart goes out to every vicitim of violence - irrespective of race/creed/religion. But I have no patience for hacks who selectively pick victims that suit their political agenda. How come your list does not include the priest from Kerala who sexually abused his own flock - those Christians don't count? What about NFLT in Tripura who routinely kill their own Christians over local politics? What about the Jhabhua nuns who were raped by over 12 Christians? How come they didn't make the list George? Ever heard of Nyogi report? I could go on, but as I said to Venkitesh earlier - it's like throwing pearls at swine.
A cursory check on web with respect to your position on Teri Schivo case, even the tolerant Americans here don't care for your brand of Bible thumping Christianity.
Too bad you even got a slap from you buddy Farmer on this position with respect to "90% Christian America" claims. Was an icing on a cake to see yet another gungadin being shown in place - LOL! One would think Farmer's a more qualified professor than you!
So, save your breath for some sucker who cares. There's plenty in your indo euro racists trash group I believe who'll lap up whatever you dish out in guise of concerns for fellow Christians. Sorry I don't.
Meanwhile enjoy this from a non-"Hindutva" source:
http://www.secweb.org/index.aspx?actionfil...iewAsset&id=363
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->This is a short list of Hindu attacks on Christians in India.
=========================
PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS IN INDIA
The severity of the persecution of Christians in India is increasing. The world needs to pay more attention to this problem. Examine the following data and news reports:
HINDU ASSAULTS ON CHRISTIANS (YEAR 2001 ONLY)
Hindu attacks on Christians in India have increased dramatically during and after the rule of the BJP government in 1996. The following is a summary of crimes against Christians in the major states of India (2001):
State       Number of Crimes      Groups Responsible for the Crimes      Party in Power in the State
Gujarat             109                  VHP, RSS, Bajarang Dal                   BJP
.............<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Response to Raju by xx:<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Remember the native American Holocaust, or the mass
murders of countless Hindus by Portuguese Colonists?
I'm still compiling that list of names. I should be done
sometime before Mr. Thomas leaves for Hell.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
another response to Raju Thomas:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dear Mr. Thomas,
I demand that you produce evidence for the libel that I persecuted Christians or retract your statement with apology.
The tolerance and prosperity of America has nothing to with Christianity. Christians indeed are intolerant here, as evident from the fact that American Hindus have to win a litigation each time they build a temple. Hey, ask the dead and bygone Native Americans, who were victims of American genocide, and they will tell you all about Christian tolerance. Teddy Roosevelt declared that extermination at the hands of white Christians was the best thing that happened to the Native Americans. Since you do not seem to have read much beyond the rants in the Bible and the bogus US State agency reports, I direct you to the following sources to understand better about Christian tolerance:
Dyer, T.G.: Theodore Roosevelt and the Idea of Race.
Stannard, D.E.: The Conquest of the New World â American Holocaust.
Ignorance is bliss only if you remain Christian.
I am ashamed to hear that one third of your family is Hindu. Did you inherit Hindu wisdom, dharma, tolerance and honesty from them? How can one propagate the evil cult of Christianity despite having some Hindu blood in him? Have you not learnt the notions of kaarunya from your Hindu family members? Does it ever prick your conscience that you follow Christianity, the most hate-filled, genocidal cult of all time?
Regards,
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
and another one
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Virtually every one of the allegations you have listed has been shown to be fabrications time and again. You are behaving like a Bible-thumping Christian moron who cites the Bible as authority when the question is about the very inerrancy of the Bible.Â
But I notice that you have deftly side stepped the main observations that I made:
US government agencies reports regarding Christian persecution are as credible as their reports on the WMD. Only Christian racists and their stooges will believe those reports.
One can easily note that the reports are motivated because the same agencies, and the media you have cited, never submit such reports when Christians in the NE states persecute and ethnic cleanse Hindus, or when Muslims ethnic cleansed 700, 000 Hindus of Kashmir.
One must have an IQ less than 80 to believe that Hindus persecute Christians. After all, Indian constitution grants Christians special rights that Hindus do not have. If Christians are being persecuted, how come there is a mushrooming of churches and TV evangelical programs? But I guess that facts are of no utility to Christian fundamentalists.
Your comments that I had earlier summarized (cited below) are echoes of the racist remarks of white supremacists, and reflect a very low self-esteem on your part. Do you think it is worth surrendering one's self esteem, end up as the lick spittle of imperialists, all for ephemeral gains? Hey do you not know that African Americans too embraced the cult of their oppressors, yet Jefferson wanted to ship them back? Why do you think that a colored stooge would be treated any differently by his racist Christian masters once he has served their purpose of being an attack dog?
How does your conscience allow you to defend Christianity, and practise and propagate it when that evil cult has caused numerous genocides including the Holocaust that killed six million Jews?
You should not expect the honor of further emails from me unless you display the intellectual honesty, ethics and intelligence to reply to my points. I follow the old Tamil adage that even alms should be given only to a deserving beggar.
I am bcc-ing some of my friends. Some of them are very gracious and might write to you even if you do not deserve that! May be not if they choose to listen to the ancient Tamil Hindu sage Tiruvalluvar, who advised that one should not waste their words on those who lack comprehension!
Friends, even if you do not reply to Mr. Thomas, can you please send him a copy of "Idiot's Guide To Reading Comprehesion"? He needs help to save himself from Christ!
Regards,
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
another response
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->George: I asked to get back to me if you have a US State Dept list of atrocities against Christians in US. Both in numbers and percentage of populations, the crimes against Christians in US are higher but no report!!!
Please don't quote your own article that too with numbers pulled from FICONA; it's like Bin Laden getting character certificate from Musharraf with Ayman Zawahri officiating the function.
My heart goes out to every vicitim of violence - irrespective of race/creed/religion. But I have no patience for hacks who selectively pick victims that suit their political agenda. How come your list does not include the priest from Kerala who sexually abused his own flock - those Christians don't count? What about NFLT in Tripura who routinely kill their own Christians over local politics? What about the Jhabhua nuns who were raped by over 12 Christians? How come they didn't make the list George? Ever heard of Nyogi report? I could go on, but as I said to Venkitesh earlier - it's like throwing pearls at swine.
A cursory check on web with respect to your position on Teri Schivo case, even the tolerant Americans here don't care for your brand of Bible thumping Christianity.
Too bad you even got a slap from you buddy Farmer on this position with respect to "90% Christian America" claims. Was an icing on a cake to see yet another gungadin being shown in place - LOL! One would think Farmer's a more qualified professor than you!
So, save your breath for some sucker who cares. There's plenty in your indo euro racists trash group I believe who'll lap up whatever you dish out in guise of concerns for fellow Christians. Sorry I don't.
Meanwhile enjoy this from a non-"Hindutva" source:
http://www.secweb.org/index.aspx?actionfil...iewAsset&id=363
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->