09-19-2006, 08:16 PM
Raju comes back:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->We can go on with this contest between the evil Christians and the good and most wonderful Hindus who appear to be without blemish. But I think it is a waste of time.
That list of atrocities against Christians was posted on FIACONA but it came from an American report to Congress in 2003.
The State Department keeps a tag of these things all over the world. You have to ask them. One of you threatened a libel suit against me. You have two problems. I distributed the State Department report on India. You will have to sue the State Department. Second, I have no money.
I received a lot of personal abuse, contempt and ridicule from you guys. Many of them amount to outright hate and contempt for Indian Christians, Christianity and for Jesus himself.  And I have not responded in kind. I will not lower myself to these depths.
We Kerala Christians were at the forefront of promoting India and Indian causes in the US. The main Indian American forum for this founded by Thomas Abraham. Throughout the 1980s I spent two or three times a year at the State and Defense Departments at their invitation presenting Indian positions on Kashmir, internal security defense and foreign policy. Because of that I used to get red carpet treatment at the Indian embassy and at the Ministries of Defense and External Affairs in Delhi. My books and articles have received enormous praise both in the US and India. A State Department official once told me that "Raju, we read everything you write and we appreciate it."
Check out my books. The early ones are out of print but read Democracy, Defense and Development in India (Palgrave, 1996) and then make your judgement.
[edited - no need to give links to his personal website - Admin]
There has never been any problems between Hindus and Indian Christians. It all began after the BJP came to power. They created an atmosphere of hate and contempt for Indian Christians and Christianity although they were always willing to lick the behinds of White American and European Christians. I think nationalist Hindus of your group suffer from a severe inferiority complex and jealousy against Christians and Christianity. Get over it.
I wish to have nothing more to do with this or any of you. Save your vulgar abuse and name-calling.Â
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One Response to him
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->John Joseph, a Christian member of the National Minority Commission charged with investigating reported cases of persecution, complained that most of the cases that hit national and international headlines in recent years were nothing but "<i>colorful lies, half-truths or highly exaggerated stories unleashed by Indian Christian NGOs and missionary groups to mobilize Christian donor agencies to open their wallets.</i>"
Sorry Georgie, I have more faith in John Joseph of India's National Minority Commission than an intellectual for hire. You peddle your hubris to US State Dept, CIA and they retain you for consulting and shower praises; and then you trot around with their report as the good Lords gospel truth. Why am I not surprised?
Yes, enough is enough.
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Another reader:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Shri George Thomas, Hindus back home are fast losing their 'village idiot' tolerance, believe me. And the Chrisitians of India may be indians but christianity is not and therefore any indian practising any faith or belief system which harms or attempts to destroy the hindus, who are the original natives of this land, are inimical to and in fact enemies of the hindus of india.Â
the hindus of india may be alien to america but no more alien than the white christians themselves unless you want to wish away the path along which the church and christianity traveled in the new world to spread itself. like it did all thru the world. so for the pope to call islam evil is a joke because the pope like you is wishing away history. how pray did christianity spread around the world - as violently as islam, is the answer.
i am sure indian christians wear the figleaf that they are indians, as are indian muslims. yes but not your religions and therefore you harbor pan-national loyalties. the pope and you both need to make a reality check and get connected to reality and history. regards<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->We can go on with this contest between the evil Christians and the good and most wonderful Hindus who appear to be without blemish. But I think it is a waste of time.
That list of atrocities against Christians was posted on FIACONA but it came from an American report to Congress in 2003.
The State Department keeps a tag of these things all over the world. You have to ask them. One of you threatened a libel suit against me. You have two problems. I distributed the State Department report on India. You will have to sue the State Department. Second, I have no money.
I received a lot of personal abuse, contempt and ridicule from you guys. Many of them amount to outright hate and contempt for Indian Christians, Christianity and for Jesus himself.  And I have not responded in kind. I will not lower myself to these depths.
We Kerala Christians were at the forefront of promoting India and Indian causes in the US. The main Indian American forum for this founded by Thomas Abraham. Throughout the 1980s I spent two or three times a year at the State and Defense Departments at their invitation presenting Indian positions on Kashmir, internal security defense and foreign policy. Because of that I used to get red carpet treatment at the Indian embassy and at the Ministries of Defense and External Affairs in Delhi. My books and articles have received enormous praise both in the US and India. A State Department official once told me that "Raju, we read everything you write and we appreciate it."
Check out my books. The early ones are out of print but read Democracy, Defense and Development in India (Palgrave, 1996) and then make your judgement.
[edited - no need to give links to his personal website - Admin]
There has never been any problems between Hindus and Indian Christians. It all began after the BJP came to power. They created an atmosphere of hate and contempt for Indian Christians and Christianity although they were always willing to lick the behinds of White American and European Christians. I think nationalist Hindus of your group suffer from a severe inferiority complex and jealousy against Christians and Christianity. Get over it.
I wish to have nothing more to do with this or any of you. Save your vulgar abuse and name-calling.Â
Goodbye<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
One Response to him
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->John Joseph, a Christian member of the National Minority Commission charged with investigating reported cases of persecution, complained that most of the cases that hit national and international headlines in recent years were nothing but "<i>colorful lies, half-truths or highly exaggerated stories unleashed by Indian Christian NGOs and missionary groups to mobilize Christian donor agencies to open their wallets.</i>"
Sorry Georgie, I have more faith in John Joseph of India's National Minority Commission than an intellectual for hire. You peddle your hubris to US State Dept, CIA and they retain you for consulting and shower praises; and then you trot around with their report as the good Lords gospel truth. Why am I not surprised?
Yes, enough is enough.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Another reader:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Shri George Thomas, Hindus back home are fast losing their 'village idiot' tolerance, believe me. And the Chrisitians of India may be indians but christianity is not and therefore any indian practising any faith or belief system which harms or attempts to destroy the hindus, who are the original natives of this land, are inimical to and in fact enemies of the hindus of india.Â
the hindus of india may be alien to america but no more alien than the white christians themselves unless you want to wish away the path along which the church and christianity traveled in the new world to spread itself. like it did all thru the world. so for the pope to call islam evil is a joke because the pope like you is wishing away history. how pray did christianity spread around the world - as violently as islam, is the answer.
i am sure indian christians wear the figleaf that they are indians, as are indian muslims. yes but not your religions and therefore you harbor pan-national loyalties. the pope and you both need to make a reality check and get connected to reality and history. regards<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->