<!--QuoteBegin-digvijay+Dec 8 2006, 03:50 PM-->QUOTE(digvijay @ Dec 8 2006, 03:50 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Dec 8 2006, 10:21 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bodhi @ Dec 8 2006, 10:21 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-kartiksri+Dec 8 2006, 10:09 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(kartiksri @ Dec 8 2006, 10:09 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->and the general public had faith in their religious beliefs.
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This is very true. Islam could not win many converts in India because Indian public was very firm in faith. And who made the public firm in their faith? The Prevailing Hindu social superstructure and countless saints, bhakts, sages and seers who appeared like a rainfall throughout the land of India throughout the middle ages and throughout the spectrum of sects and schools.
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Bodhi you got to be kidding me. Sword on the neck when you belong to the population in the realm of king which lost a war to the jihadi muslim and a dictum to eat beef and loose your jaati cannot be avoided because you belong to the glorious hinduism.
Please grow out of this marxist propaganda that Islam is the next best thing to motherhood and apple pie and the sufi saints spread it in India and that common hindu was just more smart religiously because he was a hindu and hence he did not convert.
This is utter Ape sh1t.
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What gives a race the inner strength to resist the ongoing invasion, tyranny and suppression? What would have inspired Hindus to fight against Islamism relentlessly for over a thousand years? What was the zeal behind the sword that you talk about?
Can you think about Maratha rise without the catalyst called Sant Ramdas, Tukaram, Gyaneshwar and Namdev? Can you think of Sikh resistance without the spiritual strength of Gurus? Can you think of the rise of Gorkhas without thinking about Guru Gorakshnath? Read about the life of Tulsidas and how he inspired Hindus in North India by giving them Ram's story in common man's language. He so much frustated Akbar that he was arrested and put in jail. (Akbar had to release him, as thisstarted to become a revolting point - Todar and Man Singh were shishya of Tulsidas).
Why did shudra Hindus not convert to Islam readily? What was their attachment to Hindu soceity? Can we really answer this without mentioning Sant Ravidas, Sant Kabirdas and countless other saints who were born within shudras?
Why did Bengal not get completely converted? Were there Rajputs who fought muslims off or was it Chaitanya's influence? Just read about Chaitanya's life. He stirred a Hindu revival in 15th century of Bengal, Orissa and Assam, that became the backbone of resistance against Islamism - both by providing a new religious reassurance for common public, and an inspired zeal to the Hindu Kings. But for Chaitanya, whole of Bengal would have been lost much earlier.
Hindu sword was and is the arm of Hindu resistance, but spiritual movement is its Atma. There would not have been a sustained armed resistance had there not been a strong religious soul keeping it alive. That soul was nourished and nurtured by the Sant-Bhakti revival. Not meaning that armed strength is less important, but strong connection to faith is and has been the root.
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This is very true. Islam could not win many converts in India because Indian public was very firm in faith. And who made the public firm in their faith? The Prevailing Hindu social superstructure and countless saints, bhakts, sages and seers who appeared like a rainfall throughout the land of India throughout the middle ages and throughout the spectrum of sects and schools.
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Bodhi you got to be kidding me. Sword on the neck when you belong to the population in the realm of king which lost a war to the jihadi muslim and a dictum to eat beef and loose your jaati cannot be avoided because you belong to the glorious hinduism.
Please grow out of this marxist propaganda that Islam is the next best thing to motherhood and apple pie and the sufi saints spread it in India and that common hindu was just more smart religiously because he was a hindu and hence he did not convert.
This is utter Ape sh1t.
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What gives a race the inner strength to resist the ongoing invasion, tyranny and suppression? What would have inspired Hindus to fight against Islamism relentlessly for over a thousand years? What was the zeal behind the sword that you talk about?
Can you think about Maratha rise without the catalyst called Sant Ramdas, Tukaram, Gyaneshwar and Namdev? Can you think of Sikh resistance without the spiritual strength of Gurus? Can you think of the rise of Gorkhas without thinking about Guru Gorakshnath? Read about the life of Tulsidas and how he inspired Hindus in North India by giving them Ram's story in common man's language. He so much frustated Akbar that he was arrested and put in jail. (Akbar had to release him, as thisstarted to become a revolting point - Todar and Man Singh were shishya of Tulsidas).
Why did shudra Hindus not convert to Islam readily? What was their attachment to Hindu soceity? Can we really answer this without mentioning Sant Ravidas, Sant Kabirdas and countless other saints who were born within shudras?
Why did Bengal not get completely converted? Were there Rajputs who fought muslims off or was it Chaitanya's influence? Just read about Chaitanya's life. He stirred a Hindu revival in 15th century of Bengal, Orissa and Assam, that became the backbone of resistance against Islamism - both by providing a new religious reassurance for common public, and an inspired zeal to the Hindu Kings. But for Chaitanya, whole of Bengal would have been lost much earlier.
Hindu sword was and is the arm of Hindu resistance, but spiritual movement is its Atma. There would not have been a sustained armed resistance had there not been a strong religious soul keeping it alive. That soul was nourished and nurtured by the Sant-Bhakti revival. Not meaning that armed strength is less important, but strong connection to faith is and has been the root.