<!--QuoteBegin-ramana+Jan 28 2007, 05:50 AM-->QUOTE(ramana @ Jan 28 2007, 05:50 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dhu, Why don't you contact Gil-White and invite him to this forum and also your comments on the Iranians etc.
I think the history of the Jews is very important thing for Hindus and Indians to understand. Did you see what Disraeli says about how Spain got Islamized? The newly converted Goths attacked Spain and troubled the Jews who were there for centuries before the advent of the revelation. They in turn invited they their Bedouin cousins the Moors!
Is Israel a modern European expatriation to Asia? Have the European xtians finally done it?
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OK i will send an email to him but I think he must be aware of the forum (or atleast HC) since he mentions the recent DNA evidence against AIT in his book (nat. geographic article "india acquired language not genes form the west"). probably we will also have to shift gears towards the social history of Ideas rather than specific pointers of the out of india migrations. surprisingly, it is with the history of ideas that the herrenvolks seem to be most concerned with (eg with the new egalitarianism of the jews (the so-called "ethical revolution"). gil-white locates the jewish political-ethical revolution with the jewish saviors, the zoroastrians. buddhism and its attendant let live dynamic may not be so astonishing to us as indians but it was probably not so for the ancient jews embedded in the "societies of murderers" of the mediterranean. we have been ignoring this aspect so far..
another strategy may be to locate the locus in afghanistan or iran for the interval period so as to take the psychological sting out of an india locus. it was after all the iranian saka who filled up the near eastern and central asian spaces, migrating from the south.
The sheer indian manpower needed to impart zoroastrian and buddhist elements to Ur which resulted in messianic religions of Judaism is mind-boggling. But when we consider that half of Dubai's population todays is south asian, these ancient results are not that surprising.
I think the history of the Jews is very important thing for Hindus and Indians to understand. Did you see what Disraeli says about how Spain got Islamized? The newly converted Goths attacked Spain and troubled the Jews who were there for centuries before the advent of the revelation. They in turn invited they their Bedouin cousins the Moors!
Is Israel a modern European expatriation to Asia? Have the European xtians finally done it?
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OK i will send an email to him but I think he must be aware of the forum (or atleast HC) since he mentions the recent DNA evidence against AIT in his book (nat. geographic article "india acquired language not genes form the west"). probably we will also have to shift gears towards the social history of Ideas rather than specific pointers of the out of india migrations. surprisingly, it is with the history of ideas that the herrenvolks seem to be most concerned with (eg with the new egalitarianism of the jews (the so-called "ethical revolution"). gil-white locates the jewish political-ethical revolution with the jewish saviors, the zoroastrians. buddhism and its attendant let live dynamic may not be so astonishing to us as indians but it was probably not so for the ancient jews embedded in the "societies of murderers" of the mediterranean. we have been ignoring this aspect so far..
another strategy may be to locate the locus in afghanistan or iran for the interval period so as to take the psychological sting out of an india locus. it was after all the iranian saka who filled up the near eastern and central asian spaces, migrating from the south.
The sheer indian manpower needed to impart zoroastrian and buddhist elements to Ur which resulted in messianic religions of Judaism is mind-boggling. But when we consider that half of Dubai's population todays is south asian, these ancient results are not that surprising.