<!--QuoteBegin-sengotuvel+May 19 2007, 03:55 PM-->QUOTE(sengotuvel @ May 19 2007, 03:55 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://chronicle.com/temp/reprint.php?id=t...8b82dpsct9f9003
Fears for Democracy in India
By MARTHA C. NUSSBAUM
On February 27, 2002, the Sabarmati express train arrived in the station of Godhra, in the state of Gujarat, bearing a large group of Hindu pilgrims who were returning from a trip to the purported birthplace of the god Rama at Ayodhya where, some years earlier, angry Hindu mobs had destroyed the Babri mosque, which they claimed was on top of the remains of Rama's birthplace). The pilgrimage, like many others in recent times, aimed at forcibly constructing a temple over the disputed site, and the mood of the returning passengers, frustrated in their aims by the government and the courts, was angrily emotional. When the train stopped at the station, the Hindu passengers got into arguments with Muslim passengers and vendors. At least one Muslim vendor was beaten up when he refused to say Jai Sri Ram ("Hail Rama"). As the train left the station, stones were thrown at it, apparently by Muslims.
<b>Fifteen minutes later, one car of the train erupted in flames.</b>
Fifty-eight men, women, and children died in the fire. Most of the dead were Hindus. Because the area adjacent to the tracks was made up of Muslim dwellings, and because a Muslim mob had gathered in the region to protest the treatment of Muslims on the train platform, blame was immediately put on Muslims.[right][snapback]69030[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Long article. Ends with a little info on author:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Martha C. Nussbaum is a professor in the philosophy department, law
school, <b>divinity school, and the college at the University of Chicago</b>.
Her book The Clash Within: Democracy, Religious Violence, and India's
Future will be published this week by Belknap Press of Harvard
University Press.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Three things.
(1) "Fifteen minutes later, one car of the train erupted in flames"
Spontaneous combustion again.
(2) And here's one I haven't seen - the implied explanation for why this spontaneous combustion happened:
It was no less than jehovallah's Divine Retribution for the convenient scenario of 'at least one muslim vendor' being 'beaten up when he refused to say' - note the translation - 'HAIL Rama'. <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(That's not what Jai Sri means, but that's only the tip of what Martha Nussbaum got wrong.)
Also, where's the proof that a vendor was harrassed? That was just one of the stories doing the rounds <i>afterwards</i>. I don't know why Nussbaum didn't pounce on the far more sensational story that a muslim girl was being troubled and that this was what had incensed the islamis into 'protesting'. Wouldn't that have heightened the sense of repugnance in her audience? Guess she didn't know about it when she wrote her ... thing.
But we'll leave it at the poor vendor. He was intimidated and 'beaten up' by the mostly women-and-children train passengers for not saying 'HAIL Rama'.
It's what us Hindoos do after all: We go around and find out if a vendor is muslim and call him kafir and want the infidel beheaded if he doesn't say Allahuakbar - I mean, beat him up if he doesn't say 'HAIL Rama'.
(3) But finally, an admission that salamis <i>were</i> indeed gathered on the platform - this was initially reported in the media after the Sabarmati train torching, but then strategically left out by news reports in India for a long time. However, Martha Nussbaum decides she will include it here, because she wants to make salamis even greater, more dramatic victims:
"Because the area adjacent to the tracks was made up of Muslim dwellings, and because a Muslim mob had gathered in the region to protest the treatment of Muslims on the train platform, blame was immediately put on Muslims."
There, you see! Martha Nussbaum, who was present on the very platform where it all took place, has said it: It was pure coincidence that salamis, who were only there to protest ill-treatment of some other salamis, were gathered on the same platform from which the (unmentioned here) flames were hurled onto the train.
That proves it. The <i>still spontaneous</i> combustion was all divine retribution on the Hindus. The salamis had gathered, but only to protest against how <i>they</i> had been treated. <b>The salamis are now doubly innocent and thus doubly victimised: now both before and after the Sabarmati burnings.</b> I feel so bad for the peaceful protesters standing there; if only there were any truth to this I might even cry... Thank gawd for Martha Nussbaum's clarity of thought and sense.
Now, I want to see if Martha Nussbaum will dare use the exact same logic on what happened in the WTC. Since she's crossed the hurdle of rewriting history with lies once, it means she will have no scruples (left) to impede her from repeating it. She will begin: "In September 2001, evil American nationalists doing their daily job in the WTC...." Let her finish that statement in the same vein as what she dealt the poor dead Hindus above - that is, let her end with "blame was immediately put on Muslims" as above.
I suppose this is just a repeat of the christian hierarchical worldview: if Americans die due to islamoterrorism, it's the worst possible thing that could ever happen. Stop the international press, take over Australasian, Asian, European, African news channels and for three years straight, play, replay and repeat the same old thing on TV. Don't mind the million Sudanese getting murdered by the christoislamis, only the 3000 American lives count!
If islamoterrorists murder Hindus, well we must make the international media do a whitewash - like the terrorist American media is continuing to do to Serbia - because salami lives are more important to christos in the US than those of the unsaved Hindu infidels.
All I can say is Nussbaum's name is very apt. Nut tree. A tree full of nuts. Completely nuts.
Rest of the article is also full of the christolies like - no use highlighting, the whole paragraph is full of it:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In the days that followed the incident, wave upon wave of violence swept through the state. The attackers were Hindus, many of them highly politicized, shouting slogans of the Hindu right, along with "Kill! Destroy!" and "Slaughter!" There is copious evidence that the violent retaliation was planned before the precipitating event by Hindu extremist organizations that had been waiting for an occasion. No one was spared: Young children were thrown into fires along with their families, fetuses ripped from the bellies of pregnant women. Particularly striking was the number of women who were raped, mutilated, in some cases tortured with large metal objects, and then set on fire. Over the course of several weeks, about 2,000 Muslims were killed.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Did Nussbaum get that '2000' from her native informant Seetalwaddle?
Fears for Democracy in India
By MARTHA C. NUSSBAUM
On February 27, 2002, the Sabarmati express train arrived in the station of Godhra, in the state of Gujarat, bearing a large group of Hindu pilgrims who were returning from a trip to the purported birthplace of the god Rama at Ayodhya where, some years earlier, angry Hindu mobs had destroyed the Babri mosque, which they claimed was on top of the remains of Rama's birthplace). The pilgrimage, like many others in recent times, aimed at forcibly constructing a temple over the disputed site, and the mood of the returning passengers, frustrated in their aims by the government and the courts, was angrily emotional. When the train stopped at the station, the Hindu passengers got into arguments with Muslim passengers and vendors. At least one Muslim vendor was beaten up when he refused to say Jai Sri Ram ("Hail Rama"). As the train left the station, stones were thrown at it, apparently by Muslims.
<b>Fifteen minutes later, one car of the train erupted in flames.</b>
Fifty-eight men, women, and children died in the fire. Most of the dead were Hindus. Because the area adjacent to the tracks was made up of Muslim dwellings, and because a Muslim mob had gathered in the region to protest the treatment of Muslims on the train platform, blame was immediately put on Muslims.[right][snapback]69030[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Long article. Ends with a little info on author:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Martha C. Nussbaum is a professor in the philosophy department, law
school, <b>divinity school, and the college at the University of Chicago</b>.
Her book The Clash Within: Democracy, Religious Violence, and India's
Future will be published this week by Belknap Press of Harvard
University Press.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Three things.
(1) "Fifteen minutes later, one car of the train erupted in flames"
Spontaneous combustion again.
(2) And here's one I haven't seen - the implied explanation for why this spontaneous combustion happened:
It was no less than jehovallah's Divine Retribution for the convenient scenario of 'at least one muslim vendor' being 'beaten up when he refused to say' - note the translation - 'HAIL Rama'. <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(That's not what Jai Sri means, but that's only the tip of what Martha Nussbaum got wrong.)
Also, where's the proof that a vendor was harrassed? That was just one of the stories doing the rounds <i>afterwards</i>. I don't know why Nussbaum didn't pounce on the far more sensational story that a muslim girl was being troubled and that this was what had incensed the islamis into 'protesting'. Wouldn't that have heightened the sense of repugnance in her audience? Guess she didn't know about it when she wrote her ... thing.
But we'll leave it at the poor vendor. He was intimidated and 'beaten up' by the mostly women-and-children train passengers for not saying 'HAIL Rama'.
It's what us Hindoos do after all: We go around and find out if a vendor is muslim and call him kafir and want the infidel beheaded if he doesn't say Allahuakbar - I mean, beat him up if he doesn't say 'HAIL Rama'.
(3) But finally, an admission that salamis <i>were</i> indeed gathered on the platform - this was initially reported in the media after the Sabarmati train torching, but then strategically left out by news reports in India for a long time. However, Martha Nussbaum decides she will include it here, because she wants to make salamis even greater, more dramatic victims:
"Because the area adjacent to the tracks was made up of Muslim dwellings, and because a Muslim mob had gathered in the region to protest the treatment of Muslims on the train platform, blame was immediately put on Muslims."
There, you see! Martha Nussbaum, who was present on the very platform where it all took place, has said it: It was pure coincidence that salamis, who were only there to protest ill-treatment of some other salamis, were gathered on the same platform from which the (unmentioned here) flames were hurled onto the train.
That proves it. The <i>still spontaneous</i> combustion was all divine retribution on the Hindus. The salamis had gathered, but only to protest against how <i>they</i> had been treated. <b>The salamis are now doubly innocent and thus doubly victimised: now both before and after the Sabarmati burnings.</b> I feel so bad for the peaceful protesters standing there; if only there were any truth to this I might even cry... Thank gawd for Martha Nussbaum's clarity of thought and sense.
Now, I want to see if Martha Nussbaum will dare use the exact same logic on what happened in the WTC. Since she's crossed the hurdle of rewriting history with lies once, it means she will have no scruples (left) to impede her from repeating it. She will begin: "In September 2001, evil American nationalists doing their daily job in the WTC...." Let her finish that statement in the same vein as what she dealt the poor dead Hindus above - that is, let her end with "blame was immediately put on Muslims" as above.
I suppose this is just a repeat of the christian hierarchical worldview: if Americans die due to islamoterrorism, it's the worst possible thing that could ever happen. Stop the international press, take over Australasian, Asian, European, African news channels and for three years straight, play, replay and repeat the same old thing on TV. Don't mind the million Sudanese getting murdered by the christoislamis, only the 3000 American lives count!
If islamoterrorists murder Hindus, well we must make the international media do a whitewash - like the terrorist American media is continuing to do to Serbia - because salami lives are more important to christos in the US than those of the unsaved Hindu infidels.
All I can say is Nussbaum's name is very apt. Nut tree. A tree full of nuts. Completely nuts.
Rest of the article is also full of the christolies like - no use highlighting, the whole paragraph is full of it:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In the days that followed the incident, wave upon wave of violence swept through the state. The attackers were Hindus, many of them highly politicized, shouting slogans of the Hindu right, along with "Kill! Destroy!" and "Slaughter!" There is copious evidence that the violent retaliation was planned before the precipitating event by Hindu extremist organizations that had been waiting for an occasion. No one was spared: Young children were thrown into fires along with their families, fetuses ripped from the bellies of pregnant women. Particularly striking was the number of women who were raped, mutilated, in some cases tortured with large metal objects, and then set on fire. Over the course of several weeks, about 2,000 Muslims were killed.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Did Nussbaum get that '2000' from her native informant Seetalwaddle?