12-11-2007, 12:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Dec 10 2007, 02:42 AM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Dec 10 2007, 02:42 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Also those who have mentioned Bhojpuri and Awadhi (vs Hindi) would do well to ask Mulayam Singh why Urdu is declared as the second language of Uttar Pradesh and not either Bhojpuri, Awadhi, Bundelkhandi or Braj - each of which has a larger following than Urdu in the state?Â
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't have a hotline to Mulayam-ji ... but, even if I did, I doubt that this question will make my top 10 list ...
in any case, language and literature are part of the culture of any civilized society ... how, for example, does the body of Bhojpuri Poetry (of which you may be a Master) compare with that of Urdu Poetry? ... how many times have you heard a Bundelkhandi couplet quoted? ...
an anecdote to illustrate my point ... I have been to Bhojpuri Kavi Sammaelans ... they used to be a riot, with most poets taking recourse in Hasya Ras ... one time, a Mr. Chand attempted self-aggrandization and started off with this line:
<i>Pehlae kae Kavi Bhushan rahae, ab kae hain Shri Chand</i>
another poet, not to waste an opportunity, quipped in:
<i>oo to paawae laksh dwaya, tu kaa paayo lu*d?</i>
<!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(Bhushan had won an award for Rs 2 lakhs)
back to topic ... IMO, bashing Pakis and bashing Urdu are two different things ... much like bashing UK versus bashing English ... English is now part of Indian culture, as is Urdu ...
Culture is not static ... it is certainly not stuck in some mode prior to 786 AD ... not all ancient cultural values are appropriate in today's world ... exclusively clinging on to them is weakness of spirit ...
In the words of National Poet Dinkar:
<i>Lo ateet sae utnaa hi jitnaa poshak hai
Jeern-sheern ka moh mrityu ka dyotak hai
</i>
Cheers.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't have a hotline to Mulayam-ji ... but, even if I did, I doubt that this question will make my top 10 list ...
in any case, language and literature are part of the culture of any civilized society ... how, for example, does the body of Bhojpuri Poetry (of which you may be a Master) compare with that of Urdu Poetry? ... how many times have you heard a Bundelkhandi couplet quoted? ...
an anecdote to illustrate my point ... I have been to Bhojpuri Kavi Sammaelans ... they used to be a riot, with most poets taking recourse in Hasya Ras ... one time, a Mr. Chand attempted self-aggrandization and started off with this line:
<i>Pehlae kae Kavi Bhushan rahae, ab kae hain Shri Chand</i>
another poet, not to waste an opportunity, quipped in:
<i>oo to paawae laksh dwaya, tu kaa paayo lu*d?</i>
<!--emo&--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
(Bhushan had won an award for Rs 2 lakhs)
back to topic ... IMO, bashing Pakis and bashing Urdu are two different things ... much like bashing UK versus bashing English ... English is now part of Indian culture, as is Urdu ...
Culture is not static ... it is certainly not stuck in some mode prior to 786 AD ... not all ancient cultural values are appropriate in today's world ... exclusively clinging on to them is weakness of spirit ...
In the words of National Poet Dinkar:
<i>Lo ateet sae utnaa hi jitnaa poshak hai
Jeern-sheern ka moh mrityu ka dyotak hai
</i>
Cheers.