12-13-2007, 07:30 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Dec 13 2007, 06:03 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Dec 13 2007, 06:03 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->egin and the other end? Everywhere and nowhere. They are the same.
Thduism was 'evil'. But everytime I got to Hindu God she would shake her head violently andan that laid out in the Bible. Everything else is regarded "false, hateful, anti-christian". Their way or the highway. Hindu/Natural Gods are not like that. For instance, their god must the Hindu. Hence the end result is that the muslim merely wandered from his personal religion that he thought was called "islam" to the same religion he now calls Hinduism. (Or alternatively, once exposed to the Hindu idea/Natural Religion's idea of God, the former muslim found it resonated with him/her better.) But the islamic idea of "God" and Natural Religions understanding of what God entails are <i>not</i> the same.
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Im surprized about a couple of your statements here.
First ,in christian and islamic theology God is genderless.In islam to call God father is a heresy.Yes in bible God is call father(why not mother or neutral parent?).I know that in folk thinking God is seen as male but is not the case in theology.
In Iskon God is seen as a real male ,not genderless.Being a person Krishna has wishes.He like to be a man,he like to be blue and play whit his cows and cowherd friends.We can say that Krishna have particular wishes.
For Iskon to be Brahma or Shiva is more like a function ;i can be Brahma or Shiva,you can be Brahma or Shiva(have their functions,or have the same desires as they).Universalism and particularism are complementary .The gods are as universal as they are particular(whit their own preferces).
However ,unlike biblical God,Krishna dont like(dont wish) to comand his subjects to kill the heathens.
Krishna can be whatever he wants but he like the most some specific things.
Gender or genderless is not a virtue ,nor a sin.
Same about universality or particularity.
I dont belive that God concept lead to intolerance (though some forms of theologies can lead to this),but when i was christian the thing that stop me to make a reason was the fear of eternal hell.I was so afraid that i try to not think at something that seem out of place.When i got a more strong disease i was so afraid that im gona die and go in eternal hell and have panic attacs frecvently.I even go to chuch in front of the Jesus icon and ask him to show himself if he is the real God.I was so bad that i must go to eternal hell?But no answer came.(nearbie the priest discuss whit some students how to stop a gay manifestation).
Thduism was 'evil'. But everytime I got to Hindu God she would shake her head violently andan that laid out in the Bible. Everything else is regarded "false, hateful, anti-christian". Their way or the highway. Hindu/Natural Gods are not like that. For instance, their god must the Hindu. Hence the end result is that the muslim merely wandered from his personal religion that he thought was called "islam" to the same religion he now calls Hinduism. (Or alternatively, once exposed to the Hindu idea/Natural Religion's idea of God, the former muslim found it resonated with him/her better.) But the islamic idea of "God" and Natural Religions understanding of what God entails are <i>not</i> the same.
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Im surprized about a couple of your statements here.
First ,in christian and islamic theology God is genderless.In islam to call God father is a heresy.Yes in bible God is call father(why not mother or neutral parent?).I know that in folk thinking God is seen as male but is not the case in theology.
In Iskon God is seen as a real male ,not genderless.Being a person Krishna has wishes.He like to be a man,he like to be blue and play whit his cows and cowherd friends.We can say that Krishna have particular wishes.
For Iskon to be Brahma or Shiva is more like a function ;i can be Brahma or Shiva,you can be Brahma or Shiva(have their functions,or have the same desires as they).Universalism and particularism are complementary .The gods are as universal as they are particular(whit their own preferces).
However ,unlike biblical God,Krishna dont like(dont wish) to comand his subjects to kill the heathens.
Krishna can be whatever he wants but he like the most some specific things.
Gender or genderless is not a virtue ,nor a sin.
Same about universality or particularity.
I dont belive that God concept lead to intolerance (though some forms of theologies can lead to this),but when i was christian the thing that stop me to make a reason was the fear of eternal hell.I was so afraid that i try to not think at something that seem out of place.When i got a more strong disease i was so afraid that im gona die and go in eternal hell and have panic attacs frecvently.I even go to chuch in front of the Jesus icon and ask him to show himself if he is the real God.I was so bad that i must go to eternal hell?But no answer came.(nearbie the priest discuss whit some students how to stop a gay manifestation).