04-24-2008, 09:41 PM
rajesh_g,
Let me give you ground reality from ground states that went for election and you will be surprised how human work whether it is US or India.
Media is 200% behind Obama, it is so much in tank that they had called Hillary everything in dirtiest list on prime time TV that need PG rating. Zogby had endrosed Obama in Nov 2007. Infact, yesterday Keith Oblerman of MSNBC said someone should take Hillary inside room and only one person should come out, that should not be Hillary. Around 1am MSNBC removed that video from its website.
Because of all these support, Obama supporters mainly blacks are openly intimidating people, including death threats, identity stolen, throwing stones and garbage at people house or business.
Day before election, few white girls were standing and black woman approached crowd with Obama picture T-shirt and screamed at them saying, "this is personal" "this is personal" those girls who were wearing Hillary button told them they understand but those black woman started intimidating. People are so scared to tell pollsters whom they are voting because revenge from blacks. Philly voting was completely based on race except Harrisburg college town.
For Obama, even dead people are voting, homeless gave their vote, who knows from where they came just one month before election.
Same had already started in IN. NC he is thinking he will take it, but he may see some suprise. Whites are not saying openly but they are bitter and blacks street behavior will make even Republican to vote for Hillary. In PA so republican did voted for Obama as they did in other states including Texas, MI, MS.
Now people are voting based on race PERIOD.
Obama fill buses from other states and bring them to his venues that is why we see 35000 people during his speeches. Today TMZ had video where dead Roy had donated money to Obama. Palestine had collected money for him. He is getting money from abroad. How he managed to by-pass that ?
from someone I know was in PA
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Here is what I think happened. Race was a factor and a certain amount of white people were afraid to admit that they were not going to vote for a black man, whether or not they were actually bigots - so this impacted polls. Then, the race got ugly and the intimidation tactics were out of control. People who supported Hillary were screamed at, insulted, had yard signs stolen, etc. If you went to rallies for her, you were harassed by Obama supporters who in many cases looked and acted like thugs, holding signs that said Go Home Clinton, and ruder things. They circled rallies in cars screaming "Obama" and "F*** Hillary". Anyone wearing a Hillary button or with a bumper sticker on their car suffered their own share of abuse. If you wrote a letter to the editor in support of Hillary or questioning Obama on anything and it got published, you or your family became the victims of harssming phone calls if your phone number was not unlisted.
So, would you tell a stranger who you were voting for if you supported Hillary? Yes, there are those of us who are simply not going to back down and will take whatever comes for supporting Hillary, but I truly believe there were a lot of people in PA who supported Hillary, but were afraid to say it (and you really can't blame them) and as a result, the polls were simply wrong, because people were either lying or when people refused to say, this showed up as an extremely large number of undecideds. In the end, perhaps some people were simply afraid to publicly support Hillary. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Let me give you ground reality from ground states that went for election and you will be surprised how human work whether it is US or India.
Media is 200% behind Obama, it is so much in tank that they had called Hillary everything in dirtiest list on prime time TV that need PG rating. Zogby had endrosed Obama in Nov 2007. Infact, yesterday Keith Oblerman of MSNBC said someone should take Hillary inside room and only one person should come out, that should not be Hillary. Around 1am MSNBC removed that video from its website.
Because of all these support, Obama supporters mainly blacks are openly intimidating people, including death threats, identity stolen, throwing stones and garbage at people house or business.
Day before election, few white girls were standing and black woman approached crowd with Obama picture T-shirt and screamed at them saying, "this is personal" "this is personal" those girls who were wearing Hillary button told them they understand but those black woman started intimidating. People are so scared to tell pollsters whom they are voting because revenge from blacks. Philly voting was completely based on race except Harrisburg college town.
For Obama, even dead people are voting, homeless gave their vote, who knows from where they came just one month before election.
Same had already started in IN. NC he is thinking he will take it, but he may see some suprise. Whites are not saying openly but they are bitter and blacks street behavior will make even Republican to vote for Hillary. In PA so republican did voted for Obama as they did in other states including Texas, MI, MS.
Now people are voting based on race PERIOD.
Obama fill buses from other states and bring them to his venues that is why we see 35000 people during his speeches. Today TMZ had video where dead Roy had donated money to Obama. Palestine had collected money for him. He is getting money from abroad. How he managed to by-pass that ?
from someone I know was in PA
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Here is what I think happened. Race was a factor and a certain amount of white people were afraid to admit that they were not going to vote for a black man, whether or not they were actually bigots - so this impacted polls. Then, the race got ugly and the intimidation tactics were out of control. People who supported Hillary were screamed at, insulted, had yard signs stolen, etc. If you went to rallies for her, you were harassed by Obama supporters who in many cases looked and acted like thugs, holding signs that said Go Home Clinton, and ruder things. They circled rallies in cars screaming "Obama" and "F*** Hillary". Anyone wearing a Hillary button or with a bumper sticker on their car suffered their own share of abuse. If you wrote a letter to the editor in support of Hillary or questioning Obama on anything and it got published, you or your family became the victims of harssming phone calls if your phone number was not unlisted.
So, would you tell a stranger who you were voting for if you supported Hillary? Yes, there are those of us who are simply not going to back down and will take whatever comes for supporting Hillary, but I truly believe there were a lot of people in PA who supported Hillary, but were afraid to say it (and you really can't blame them) and as a result, the polls were simply wrong, because people were either lying or when people refused to say, this showed up as an extremely large number of undecideds. In the end, perhaps some people were simply afraid to publicly support Hillary. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->