05-03-2008, 04:15 AM
Re ISKON:
Some seeds of light!
I am wiping out this illusion about jeebus and allah among the ISKONites whenever they venture into jehovallah territory. Happily there are some more people in my group who are getting glimpses of how Xtianity has been changed over the centuries (but they are not at the Caesar's Messiah level yet). Some ISKON pandits take it upon themselves to try to co-opt this jehovallah-mohammed business into their lectures, basically repeating psec lies, and I break the truth to them. Some others (not quite at the CM level) also make attempts, though they do not have enough facts, but it is good to see that people are wide awake.
About Vishnu etc: They think every universe has its own Bramha-Vishnu-Mahesh, and Krishna is the ulitimate one ruler of all of them. Man, they need to stop all this retro-fitting BS.
The "preachers" there who do know sanskrit well do not go into semitic crap theology, I have noticed. And I overheard a white ISKONite talking about how the Aryan Invasion Theory was dreamed up by the colonialists. So there is light at the end of the tunnel; ISKON-reformation can be done to make ISKON a viable Hindu organization. The time scales are huge, but it fits in other worthwhile projects like spreading the Good News about the non-existence of jeebus and the real nature of islam..
Some seeds of light!
I am wiping out this illusion about jeebus and allah among the ISKONites whenever they venture into jehovallah territory. Happily there are some more people in my group who are getting glimpses of how Xtianity has been changed over the centuries (but they are not at the Caesar's Messiah level yet). Some ISKON pandits take it upon themselves to try to co-opt this jehovallah-mohammed business into their lectures, basically repeating psec lies, and I break the truth to them. Some others (not quite at the CM level) also make attempts, though they do not have enough facts, but it is good to see that people are wide awake.
About Vishnu etc: They think every universe has its own Bramha-Vishnu-Mahesh, and Krishna is the ulitimate one ruler of all of them. Man, they need to stop all this retro-fitting BS.
The "preachers" there who do know sanskrit well do not go into semitic crap theology, I have noticed. And I overheard a white ISKONite talking about how the Aryan Invasion Theory was dreamed up by the colonialists. So there is light at the end of the tunnel; ISKON-reformation can be done to make ISKON a viable Hindu organization. The time scales are huge, but it fits in other worthwhile projects like spreading the Good News about the non-existence of jeebus and the real nature of islam..