06-11-2008, 05:16 PM
#143: #23 {Post count changed after the topic split}
There's no point worrying about how Indians (men and women) have started pursuing meaningless avenues for their futures. You can't be wise for other people.
But it <i>is</i> seriously scary coming across people from other countries on the web (mostly men) drooling over poor Indian heathens. Yech, who'd want to be the object of that. It feels tacky even when the objects are Indian christian women. I can't imagine anyone wanting to see the insides of the kind of christo bodybags large numbers of unfortunate Phillipino women keep ending up in...
Price of psecularistion=christianisation by imitating the west is that people - entire populations - become a toy for them. Mostly women and children. The old and menfolk mostly have to deal with either being invisible (SE Asians) ignored (S Americans) or neglected, or far worse, having dawaganda against them (every XY chromosome from Asia, apparently especially those living in the US) or being killed off systematically (as happened with Russians, native Americans and others at various times).
Just as islam does, christian imperialism also considers women to be resources. Resources are always a part of war-strategies, even when the war is executed in propaganda form: adopting kids from historically-heathen climes or using the media to propagate and commonalise increased frequencies of one-way marriage alliances (woman from "the other" backgrounds are always considered the entry point) are common occurrences. I thought every heathen woman knew this?
It's how the integration of "Vietnamese" in the US was achieved. It's Vietnamese women mostly, not men. This happens in spite of the horrendous massacres that the America brought of innocent Buddhist civilians in Vietnam while the Americans were fighting the communist Vietnamese.
The male of the dominant background must always be made more attractive by their media - usually by ignoring everybody else. Though it's good to know that in the last 3-5 years or so one can actually see an African-American male or two having being allowed more significant roles. (Starting seriously/noticeably from Ally McBeal, up to today's Grey's Anatomy for instance.) Canadian, British and other television had a longer history of better representations of males of African background for much longer. Though Britain still has mostly passive or even neutered male characters of external origins other than African (with that I usually mean Indian, though the islamic kind are sometimes given a more active role), except when the men are playing gay characters when they are made more sexually aggressive than other gay men (going by the commercials for the UK series "This Life" for instance). On the flipside, the Indian men nearly always play christians. Still, not a nice way to be typecast I would say...
There's no point worrying about how Indians (men and women) have started pursuing meaningless avenues for their futures. You can't be wise for other people.
But it <i>is</i> seriously scary coming across people from other countries on the web (mostly men) drooling over poor Indian heathens. Yech, who'd want to be the object of that. It feels tacky even when the objects are Indian christian women. I can't imagine anyone wanting to see the insides of the kind of christo bodybags large numbers of unfortunate Phillipino women keep ending up in...
Price of psecularistion=christianisation by imitating the west is that people - entire populations - become a toy for them. Mostly women and children. The old and menfolk mostly have to deal with either being invisible (SE Asians) ignored (S Americans) or neglected, or far worse, having dawaganda against them (every XY chromosome from Asia, apparently especially those living in the US) or being killed off systematically (as happened with Russians, native Americans and others at various times).
Just as islam does, christian imperialism also considers women to be resources. Resources are always a part of war-strategies, even when the war is executed in propaganda form: adopting kids from historically-heathen climes or using the media to propagate and commonalise increased frequencies of one-way marriage alliances (woman from "the other" backgrounds are always considered the entry point) are common occurrences. I thought every heathen woman knew this?
It's how the integration of "Vietnamese" in the US was achieved. It's Vietnamese women mostly, not men. This happens in spite of the horrendous massacres that the America brought of innocent Buddhist civilians in Vietnam while the Americans were fighting the communist Vietnamese.
The male of the dominant background must always be made more attractive by their media - usually by ignoring everybody else. Though it's good to know that in the last 3-5 years or so one can actually see an African-American male or two having being allowed more significant roles. (Starting seriously/noticeably from Ally McBeal, up to today's Grey's Anatomy for instance.) Canadian, British and other television had a longer history of better representations of males of African background for much longer. Though Britain still has mostly passive or even neutered male characters of external origins other than African (with that I usually mean Indian, though the islamic kind are sometimes given a more active role), except when the men are playing gay characters when they are made more sexually aggressive than other gay men (going by the commercials for the UK series "This Life" for instance). On the flipside, the Indian men nearly always play christians. Still, not a nice way to be typecast I would say...