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Missed these earlier:
<!--QuoteBegin-Pandyan+Sep 22 2008, 07:12 AM-->QUOTE(Pandyan @ Sep 22 2008, 07:12 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hindus are the only ones yapping about "Dharmic brotherhood". Doesn't get us anywhere.
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<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->There's just one thing. Buddhists cannot find much (any?) support in Buddhist teachings for vandalising Hindu temples.
In any case, Mahayana Buddhism is certainly very different from SL Theravada Buddhism. For instance, my Taiwanese classmate is part of a Bauddha society that went to do volunteering service in SL after the major Tsunami from a few years back. I saw from their news coverage (the link was sent me by my friend) how they helped in Hindu communities as well. They cooked with them and comforted them and everything. (And before someone suspects: NO, they were not doing this for the purposes of converting anyone; they are only interested in converting lay *Taiwanese Bauddhas* into conscious Buddhists, getting their younger generation back to vegetarianism again, etcetera. They're not interested in converting others.
They only went to SL because they found they had the money and time to donate. And because SL was a Bauddha country - even if not all there were Bauddhas, and even though none there were Mahayana Bauddhas - they naturally felt called upon to do what they could.)
While I don't know SL Buddhists, it is a mistake to think they are the standards to judge other Buddhists by or that they are even representative at all. Every single E Asian (and Thai, Cambodian and Laotian) Bauddha I know is rather like the Taiwanese friend I mentioned. They are very humane and not even remotely religiously belligerent.
Yes, historically Buddhists have shown a lot of intolerance to the religions they were competing with (for example, apparently lots of defaced Hindu temples in TN - more than just the example HH posted not too long ago) - even when there was no LTTE for them to cite as a reason. But this is not a defining characteristic of all Buddhists let alone of Buddhism itself. Just because I am not interested in converting to their Dharma, it does not mean I refuse to see that their natural tradition *can* coexist with ours. That's why I think that even when in the case of SL it may take serious effort, it is not entirely impossible (given enough time, and zero involvement/meddling from christianism).
And Yes, I do think there is a connection between Dharmic religions - and between all Natural Traditions that have ideas corresponding to Dharma and similar views on conduct. The way I see it, the core thing we share is that with goodwill we may all co-exist. (This is what is utterly absent from christoislamicommunazism. They will not let anyone survive who does not submit to their ideology; they are intent on obliterating all natural ways of life.)
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Sep 22 2008, 03:56 AM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Sep 22 2008, 03:56 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Buddhist monk desecrates Hindu temple in Colombo Sri Lanka
Friday, 5 September 2008 - 9:05 PM SL Time
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2008/9/32019.html
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I guess this is the "brotherhood" between Buddhists and Hindus that so many Hindus are fond of.[right][snapback]88309[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->It is misdirected bitterness: he should be targeting the christo LTTE (and their funders) from where all SL's misery stems. I'm not excusing this guy - how can I; I am writing this against my own natural opinion, forcing myself to consider the full scale of the mass deception going on in SL where both sides are getting fooled Big:
Christo LTTE is undercover christian terrorism - carrying out an insidious internal sneak attack against Hindus, while more openly attacking Buddhists <- but again doing so under a Hindu guise, such that when such Buddhists retaliate it is against Hindus, never against christianism.
Dhu, is there a term like "false flag operation" that describes this scenario?
Christo LTTE wants to present Hindus' anti-LTTE sentiments as being 'anti-Hindu'/anti-Tamil. While it goes without saying that I'm for the Hindus in SL; <i>of course</i> I'm against the christo outfit LTTE.
Oh look. Christoconditioned DMK in bed with christo LTTE in India; no longer just flirting with each other across the waters:
http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...360&SKIN=B
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pro - LTTE DMK activists target Subhramaniya Swami and Rajiv Gandhi</b>
25/10/2008 06:04:31Â HK- Based on Media Inputs
Madurai : DMK hooligans of Karunanidhi spearheading Anti India agitation in Tamilnadu vandalised the office of Janata Party in Madurai and Statue of Rajiv Gandhi in Chennai.
Attackers claiming to be lawyers openly shouted anti-India slogans. The police, who were supposed to have guarded our offices, were conspicuous by their absence. The attack cannot have taken place without the blessings of Karunanidhi. There will be no peace in Tamil Nadu unless the DMK regime is dismissed forthw ith, Told Subhramaniya Swami President of Janata Party.
<b>The staunch position taken by Swami against Ramsethu destruction at the behest of DMK, irked DMK activists. The entire office was completely destroyed.</b>
As Reported by IANS
"Over a hundred people claiming to be lawyers broke every chair, table and tube-light in our office. They also assaulted me brutally. Since the police picket posted here for protection was removed, we were defenceless. For whatever it is worth, we have filed a complaint with the police," the Janata party spokesman toldÂ
<b>"The protestors shouted slogans vowing to chase all Tamil traitors</b> like Swamy who were collaborating with the Sinhalese chauvinist regime in Colombo <b>away from the borders of Tamil Nadu," R. Nagaiyan, a witness said.</b>
(What are anti-Hindu anti-Indian traitors doing in India? How about they go swimming where there's a strong downward suction?)
Gandhi, who was assassinated by a female suicide bomber in 1991, and Swamy are considered to be symbols against the banned Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam - who are currently facing losses against the Sri Lankan army.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2008...mes-the-denial/
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Shanth October 26th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Nishka October 25th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
There was separatism in early 60âs in TN. CN Annadurai disbanded the idea of separate Dravida Nadu after Nehru passed a law baring parties with separatist ideals to contest elections. DMK won in 1967. Since then Dravidian parties have never lost control of TN. I am seeing that generation fade out. However strong anti-brahmin emtions are alive. Hindus themselves vote DMK.
DMK is at the forefront when giving suport to Chrisitians. they have helped them flourish in south TN. Today the process of reverting to Hinduism is delibrately hindered by DMK. It is giong to take a huge fight to re-establish Hindu values in TN. Christianity is spreading like cancer. all this will help DMK achive its cherished dream of a separate Dravida Nadu.
(There is more to DMK than just the belief in Dravidoidism. This mob movement is particularly christoconditioned, and some in it are known to be more than just your average publicly 'unaffiliated' non-Hindus: declared christos. Not that that is a surprise when even their DMK religion originated from a bishop.)
<b>Recently strong supporters of LTTE in SL issued statements asking Tamils not to worship âNorth Indianâ gods like Lord Ram.</b> Look at the way they fan hatred against the idea of India.
(The conclusion of the subsequent sentence is inaccurate. It is LTTE trying to stab at Hinduism, though it is cloaking this as being merely anti-Indian or anti-N-Indian or anti-'Oryan'. Again, the only thing that is gaining anything here is christianism.)
In the current leadership only Jaylalitha is opposed to LTTE. God knows how TN will vote.
SOme Muslims and Christians have joined this support LTTE movement now.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Even when the christians in TN are so anti-Hindu, they pretend support for the 'Hindu' cause in SL. But it is only the christoLTTE cause (that of undercover christianisation) that they are supporting: they are supporting their christoterrorist brethren. And islamaniacs support anything anti-Hindu.
Another comment from the same person, same link:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Shanth October 25th, 2008 at 10:29 am
@ Nishka October 24th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
I have been following LTTE and Srilankan issue since 1983(when I was 7 years old. too early for a 7 year old). You are right. LTTE has/had many christians in their ranks. For ex Anton Balasingham was one of the examples. Dilipan, Karuna etc are all Chrisitians. <b>they killed Hindu leaders like Padmanabha, Sabarthinam etc.</b>
(And still no one calls LTTE for what it is: treacherous, anti-Hindu, christoterrorist outfit.)
You are right again to say that LTTE wants Christian supremacy in Srilanka. They are against Buddhists and HIndus. They even killed Muslims.
Why should a Christian country Norway show so much interest in SL affairs. They mediate. There is no doubt that LTTE is Chrisitan fundamentalist org.
Rajiv gandhi called LTTE guys in Feb 1991, just 2 months before his death and asssured them of support in his next term. Despite that MOSSAD and CIA were influential in executing this plot. BCCI(bank of Credit and commerce International) broke due to Nick Leeson in singapore. one of the accounts belonging to LTTE in London in BCCI had 88 million dollars deposited in it. Source of it was traced to Israel and US. The details obtained by an Indian sleuth was lost along with his suitcase in London Heathrow. Nobody knew anything about it later.Dhamu the assasin who killed Rajiv was also a Christian.
LTTE has been receiving help from Chrisitists for a long time.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(I pasted this for the first 3 paras above. Don't know about all this Rajiv Gandhi, Mossaad, CIA, bank stuff - but leaving it in here in case anyone can explain.)
Missed these earlier:
<!--QuoteBegin-Pandyan+Sep 22 2008, 07:12 AM-->QUOTE(Pandyan @ Sep 22 2008, 07:12 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hindus are the only ones yapping about "Dharmic brotherhood". Doesn't get us anywhere.
[right][snapback]88315[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->There's just one thing. Buddhists cannot find much (any?) support in Buddhist teachings for vandalising Hindu temples.
In any case, Mahayana Buddhism is certainly very different from SL Theravada Buddhism. For instance, my Taiwanese classmate is part of a Bauddha society that went to do volunteering service in SL after the major Tsunami from a few years back. I saw from their news coverage (the link was sent me by my friend) how they helped in Hindu communities as well. They cooked with them and comforted them and everything. (And before someone suspects: NO, they were not doing this for the purposes of converting anyone; they are only interested in converting lay *Taiwanese Bauddhas* into conscious Buddhists, getting their younger generation back to vegetarianism again, etcetera. They're not interested in converting others.
They only went to SL because they found they had the money and time to donate. And because SL was a Bauddha country - even if not all there were Bauddhas, and even though none there were Mahayana Bauddhas - they naturally felt called upon to do what they could.)
While I don't know SL Buddhists, it is a mistake to think they are the standards to judge other Buddhists by or that they are even representative at all. Every single E Asian (and Thai, Cambodian and Laotian) Bauddha I know is rather like the Taiwanese friend I mentioned. They are very humane and not even remotely religiously belligerent.
Yes, historically Buddhists have shown a lot of intolerance to the religions they were competing with (for example, apparently lots of defaced Hindu temples in TN - more than just the example HH posted not too long ago) - even when there was no LTTE for them to cite as a reason. But this is not a defining characteristic of all Buddhists let alone of Buddhism itself. Just because I am not interested in converting to their Dharma, it does not mean I refuse to see that their natural tradition *can* coexist with ours. That's why I think that even when in the case of SL it may take serious effort, it is not entirely impossible (given enough time, and zero involvement/meddling from christianism).
And Yes, I do think there is a connection between Dharmic religions - and between all Natural Traditions that have ideas corresponding to Dharma and similar views on conduct. The way I see it, the core thing we share is that with goodwill we may all co-exist. (This is what is utterly absent from christoislamicommunazism. They will not let anyone survive who does not submit to their ideology; they are intent on obliterating all natural ways of life.)
<!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Sep 22 2008, 03:56 AM-->QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Sep 22 2008, 03:56 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Buddhist monk desecrates Hindu temple in Colombo Sri Lanka
Friday, 5 September 2008 - 9:05 PM SL Time
http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2008/9/32019.html
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->I guess this is the "brotherhood" between Buddhists and Hindus that so many Hindus are fond of.[right][snapback]88309[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->It is misdirected bitterness: he should be targeting the christo LTTE (and their funders) from where all SL's misery stems. I'm not excusing this guy - how can I; I am writing this against my own natural opinion, forcing myself to consider the full scale of the mass deception going on in SL where both sides are getting fooled Big:
Christo LTTE is undercover christian terrorism - carrying out an insidious internal sneak attack against Hindus, while more openly attacking Buddhists <- but again doing so under a Hindu guise, such that when such Buddhists retaliate it is against Hindus, never against christianism.
Dhu, is there a term like "false flag operation" that describes this scenario?
Christo LTTE wants to present Hindus' anti-LTTE sentiments as being 'anti-Hindu'/anti-Tamil. While it goes without saying that I'm for the Hindus in SL; <i>of course</i> I'm against the christo outfit LTTE.
Oh look. Christoconditioned DMK in bed with christo LTTE in India; no longer just flirting with each other across the waters:
http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...360&SKIN=B
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pro - LTTE DMK activists target Subhramaniya Swami and Rajiv Gandhi</b>
25/10/2008 06:04:31Â HK- Based on Media Inputs
Madurai : DMK hooligans of Karunanidhi spearheading Anti India agitation in Tamilnadu vandalised the office of Janata Party in Madurai and Statue of Rajiv Gandhi in Chennai.
Attackers claiming to be lawyers openly shouted anti-India slogans. The police, who were supposed to have guarded our offices, were conspicuous by their absence. The attack cannot have taken place without the blessings of Karunanidhi. There will be no peace in Tamil Nadu unless the DMK regime is dismissed forthw ith, Told Subhramaniya Swami President of Janata Party.
<b>The staunch position taken by Swami against Ramsethu destruction at the behest of DMK, irked DMK activists. The entire office was completely destroyed.</b>
As Reported by IANS
"Over a hundred people claiming to be lawyers broke every chair, table and tube-light in our office. They also assaulted me brutally. Since the police picket posted here for protection was removed, we were defenceless. For whatever it is worth, we have filed a complaint with the police," the Janata party spokesman toldÂ
<b>"The protestors shouted slogans vowing to chase all Tamil traitors</b> like Swamy who were collaborating with the Sinhalese chauvinist regime in Colombo <b>away from the borders of Tamil Nadu," R. Nagaiyan, a witness said.</b>
(What are anti-Hindu anti-Indian traitors doing in India? How about they go swimming where there's a strong downward suction?)
Gandhi, who was assassinated by a female suicide bomber in 1991, and Swamy are considered to be symbols against the banned Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam - who are currently facing losses against the Sri Lankan army.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2008...mes-the-denial/
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Shanth October 26th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Nishka October 25th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
There was separatism in early 60âs in TN. CN Annadurai disbanded the idea of separate Dravida Nadu after Nehru passed a law baring parties with separatist ideals to contest elections. DMK won in 1967. Since then Dravidian parties have never lost control of TN. I am seeing that generation fade out. However strong anti-brahmin emtions are alive. Hindus themselves vote DMK.
DMK is at the forefront when giving suport to Chrisitians. they have helped them flourish in south TN. Today the process of reverting to Hinduism is delibrately hindered by DMK. It is giong to take a huge fight to re-establish Hindu values in TN. Christianity is spreading like cancer. all this will help DMK achive its cherished dream of a separate Dravida Nadu.
(There is more to DMK than just the belief in Dravidoidism. This mob movement is particularly christoconditioned, and some in it are known to be more than just your average publicly 'unaffiliated' non-Hindus: declared christos. Not that that is a surprise when even their DMK religion originated from a bishop.)
<b>Recently strong supporters of LTTE in SL issued statements asking Tamils not to worship âNorth Indianâ gods like Lord Ram.</b> Look at the way they fan hatred against the idea of India.
(The conclusion of the subsequent sentence is inaccurate. It is LTTE trying to stab at Hinduism, though it is cloaking this as being merely anti-Indian or anti-N-Indian or anti-'Oryan'. Again, the only thing that is gaining anything here is christianism.)
In the current leadership only Jaylalitha is opposed to LTTE. God knows how TN will vote.
SOme Muslims and Christians have joined this support LTTE movement now.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Even when the christians in TN are so anti-Hindu, they pretend support for the 'Hindu' cause in SL. But it is only the christoLTTE cause (that of undercover christianisation) that they are supporting: they are supporting their christoterrorist brethren. And islamaniacs support anything anti-Hindu.
Another comment from the same person, same link:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Shanth October 25th, 2008 at 10:29 am
@ Nishka October 24th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
I have been following LTTE and Srilankan issue since 1983(when I was 7 years old. too early for a 7 year old). You are right. LTTE has/had many christians in their ranks. For ex Anton Balasingham was one of the examples. Dilipan, Karuna etc are all Chrisitians. <b>they killed Hindu leaders like Padmanabha, Sabarthinam etc.</b>
(And still no one calls LTTE for what it is: treacherous, anti-Hindu, christoterrorist outfit.)
You are right again to say that LTTE wants Christian supremacy in Srilanka. They are against Buddhists and HIndus. They even killed Muslims.
Why should a Christian country Norway show so much interest in SL affairs. They mediate. There is no doubt that LTTE is Chrisitan fundamentalist org.
Rajiv gandhi called LTTE guys in Feb 1991, just 2 months before his death and asssured them of support in his next term. Despite that MOSSAD and CIA were influential in executing this plot. BCCI(bank of Credit and commerce International) broke due to Nick Leeson in singapore. one of the accounts belonging to LTTE in London in BCCI had 88 million dollars deposited in it. Source of it was traced to Israel and US. The details obtained by an Indian sleuth was lost along with his suitcase in London Heathrow. Nobody knew anything about it later.Dhamu the assasin who killed Rajiv was also a Christian.
LTTE has been receiving help from Chrisitists for a long time.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(I pasted this for the first 3 paras above. Don't know about all this Rajiv Gandhi, Mossaad, CIA, bank stuff - but leaving it in here in case anyone can explain.)