12-09-2008, 02:59 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am confused as to how Hindutva or any ideology that's based on nationalism can ever be free of conflict, because inherent in such philosophies is the 'us vs them' attitude. So I'd like some clarification on that.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Savarkar who coined the word Hindutva always said that ultimately nationalism was too narrow of an ideology and that one day it too will have to go away in favor of humanism but he said that with an important caveat, as long as others in the world are not ready to give up their own nationalism Hindus should not do so either. If the world voluntarily moves toward discarding narrow nationalism in time then the Hindus too shall shall take part in it but as long as others aggressively maintain their religious/national identity as Muslims, Christians, British etc it is SUICIDAL for Hindus alone to give up a sense of nationhood and have a free for all attitude regarding their own soil, and he was right.
Hindu history is full of misplaced generosity that backfired spectacularly, Prithviraj Chauhan let off Ghori the first time they won because he foolishly thought killing an enemy who submitted was not dharma, well Ghori had no such compulsions and killed Chauhan the second time he invaded and massacred countless Hindu civilians.
When Muslims give up their idea of a worldwide Muslim ummah, when xtians give up their belief of believers vs heathens, then we can talk about going past narrow nationalism. Let them take the initiative for once because through out history Hindus have been screwed by their misplaced generosity towards others.
Also even scandanavian countries have a sense of nationalism, and I am sure you will see more and more of it as the Muslim % in EU goes up.
Savarkar who coined the word Hindutva always said that ultimately nationalism was too narrow of an ideology and that one day it too will have to go away in favor of humanism but he said that with an important caveat, as long as others in the world are not ready to give up their own nationalism Hindus should not do so either. If the world voluntarily moves toward discarding narrow nationalism in time then the Hindus too shall shall take part in it but as long as others aggressively maintain their religious/national identity as Muslims, Christians, British etc it is SUICIDAL for Hindus alone to give up a sense of nationhood and have a free for all attitude regarding their own soil, and he was right.
Hindu history is full of misplaced generosity that backfired spectacularly, Prithviraj Chauhan let off Ghori the first time they won because he foolishly thought killing an enemy who submitted was not dharma, well Ghori had no such compulsions and killed Chauhan the second time he invaded and massacred countless Hindu civilians.
When Muslims give up their idea of a worldwide Muslim ummah, when xtians give up their belief of believers vs heathens, then we can talk about going past narrow nationalism. Let them take the initiative for once because through out history Hindus have been screwed by their misplaced generosity towards others.
Also even scandanavian countries have a sense of nationalism, and I am sure you will see more and more of it as the Muslim % in EU goes up.