Sthree Dharma

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Sunder,

First of all, thanks for your detailed reply. You have put forth lot of good points for discussions.

I agree with you in some of the points that you have mentioned.

Pls refer my earlier mails. I have clearly mentioned that “equality” in good things is highly appreciated by everybody including all the religions. I do not say in any of my messages that women should not be given freedom and independence in “Education” , “Career” and all that is related to good outcome.

Also, I did not say that we should not impose any restrictions on men . I have also mentioned in my mail that for a successful family life there are three important factors
1. Mutual understanding between the husband and wife
2. Proper communication
3. Give and take policy
In my previous mail, I have also classified the dowry, cruelty and the other cruelties commited to women as “culprit act” and whoever involved in it needs to be punished.

While all these are implied, I have taken the topic focussing only on the extent of “Women independence and freedom” for a successful nation. Ofcourse, the other points mentioned by you all are also very important and can be discussed in a different forum.

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To summarize, the point I am trying to debate here is limited to the "extent of women independence and freedom” for a successful family life and good culture of the nation. <i><b>My concern here is, of late, women is taking ‘independence and freedom’ for granted and crossing beyond their limits. </b></i>

Sunder, You have mentioned very clearly that women should have “Full freedom coupled with responsibility”.

<b>Obviously, I am trying to understand :

What is that responsibility ?

To the best of my knowledge when you define responsibility, there will be an override on the freedom and independence. As per the current scenerio, you will agree, this is not acceptable to women, and that is the reason so many failures in the families.

Let me put this blandly. Do you mean to say:
1. Women have the freedom and independence to have sex with everyone in the society ? If not, will you define this as a rule (or) how will you define ?
2. Women can walk without adequate dresses in the public ? If not, where is the limit ? How will you define?
3. The freedom and independence given to women is not restricted to the interests of the family ? It means, the husband and wife can take their own decisions ? Incase of conflicts, who will take the final call ? Is it again open ended ?</b>

Sunder, you have also quoted verses from Gita. Let me ask you a plain question :

Is not Janaki obey Rama ? She had delivered the responsibilities of a good wife. She did not even look at other men. When Rama suspected her, she did not divorce him. Instead she proved to him that she is a good wife without any blemish. Calling by name is not the big issue. How Janaki called Rama during the normal times ? Overall, if you see , to the best of my understanding, Janaki was submissive to Rama. Probably, you can correct me if I am wrong. I have limited knowledge in the Vedas.

Let us take bible or quran. In Bible , it is cited that “respect your husband as like God”. Ofcourse, it is also mentioned that husband should “understand and love” his wife. Same way, Quran also clearly mentions that the “head” of the family is the husband.

Request you to put forth your views. Once again, thanks for your reply.

Regards

Raja