06-07-2009, 10:15 PM
Some lessons to take from this
A separatist insurgency can succeed only with the help of a local regional external power
At the very least, the local hegemon must not be alienated
The 1987 deal was an excellent deal for the tamils
For the sinhalese it represented humiliation,
a sinhalese soldier tried to hit Rajiv with his rifle and thousands of
buddhist monks protested against the Indian intervention
Later in 1999, when the LTTE captured elephant pass,
the same monks came and demonstrated in favor of an Indian intervention
to save their sorry ass
The 1987 deal was accepted by all the other tamil political and militant wings
In 1987, that was the best that India could do at that time, given the decline of the USSR and the rise of the unipolar world
In 1987, the LTTE attacked the IPKF and now they want the same Indian army to save their ass
The LTTE attack on IPKF included attacking Indian military hospitals and doctors
Several dozen captured IPKF soldiers were necklaced
What this has ensured is that the Indian army will mutiny if in future asked to intervene in favor of tamils
Next is conducting assassinations on indian soil
This started alienating TN opinion
The icing on the cake was the assassination of Rajiv
The fear grew in Indian political circles that if ever eelam was established
it would send in assassination squads into India
Next, is association with Tamil Separatist groups in India, such as TNLA,
association with naxals, ULFA, Naxals, ISI, all of which turned Indian establishment super hostile and shut down the flow of weapons from India
LTTE websites earlier used to have maps of Greater Ealam, which includes
most of south India, that this further alarmed the Indian establishment
The rise of the UPA was due to a LTTE brokered deal in 2004 wherein the DMK switched from NDA to UPA
With rise of UPA, it lacked common sense to understand that Sonia given and opportunity would screw it
It failed to understand that Dravidianism is dead in TN, what is alive is caste vote banks and corruption
DMK did not give up its ministerships to save LTTE
At the local level, plenty of TN tamils are alienated by aggressive EJ,
and a force with Soosai ( joseph ), Reagan, Lawrence, Charles Anthony,
John Chelvanayagam, is looked on with suspicion
The congress will always be around with 25% of the vote,
and even NDA could not do business with the assassins of Rajiv
The Indian establishment even during NDA rule was heavily congress
What really turned the tide in the last Ealam war is the Indian navy
putting a cordon around sri lanka and preventing weapons inflow to the LTTE
The Sri Lankan establishment by publicly genuflecting to India, for over 15 years, tried to show themselves as more reliable Indian puppets than the uncontrollable LTTE
Sri Lanka was the only state in 1998, to support the Indian nuke test
I read an article about Mrs.IG training tamil militants in 1983
This was done to encourage them to move to India and be under Indian control ( from 1972 - 1983, they were self-training with PLO in lebanon )
Mrs.IG had promised them Indian help to sizeable autonomy,
Even at this stage, Prabhakaran was warning his Indian trained cadre to be prepared to attack Indian army if they blocked ealam
In 1985, there was an interview with Anita Pratap, and VP, told her that he would have to fight India, because he wanted Ealam, not autonomy
The pre 1983, humiliations and discriminations that the sri lankan tamils faced at the hands of the sinhalese were very similar to what the Indian tamils dished out to the TN brahmins ( with less violence in TN )
I dont see why the Jaffna tamils were complaining about marks standardisation ( adding marks to students from sinhalese provinces )
while Indian tamils had 70% reservation
B.Raman writes , that if Jaffna tamils are asked their religion, they say
Saivite, not hindu
The Jaffna tamils considered the Indian tamils of the plantations as low caste and supported the sinhalese in disenfranchising them
The Jaffna tamil mentality in many ways is similar to Indian muslim Ashraf mentality, a sense of entitlement and superiority
As far as the LTTE defeating the IPKF,
first of all unlike the barbarous Sri Lankan army, the IPKF fought with restraints and slowly cornered the LTTE into 30 square miles of Vanni Jungle
Free elections were held and LTTE was a few months away from total defeat
The Jaffna tamils called the IPKF as Innocent people killing force
They dont know how good they had to have the civilised Indian army
unlike the barbarous sinhalese army
In Jaffna tamil websites they called Indian army as racists and rapists
While there are always some bad apples, IMHO, the multicultural Indian army is better behaved than western armies
Now they wanted the same racist and rapist army to save their asses
In 1989, The LTTE took shelter in sinhalese areas and got weapons from Premadasa
The LTTE and Premadasa both wanted the Indians out
Each thought that they could win totally
In war, sometimes you lose, LTTE forgot that
By always going for an all or nothing, they got nothing
Vae victis,
I read an interview with Thondaman, the leader of the Indian tamils
He said that he uses trade unionist methods by raising some issues now and other issues in a few years and gets step by step concessions
whereas the Jaffna tamils think like lawyers and they assemble facts and demand full satisfaction immediately
Finally at the core, this is a buddhist crusade against hindus
This started before LTTE, and VHP etc, must reconsider how they view buddhism
Same has happened to hindus in Myanmar, Bhutan ( Mahayana )
Because buddhism in practise is very political and the gay buddhist monks are as feral as gay catholic monks
The classic Indian history which shows hindus as bad and buddhists as good is clearly wrong.
The bakthi movement against buddhism was a grassroots effort
A separatist insurgency can succeed only with the help of a local regional external power
At the very least, the local hegemon must not be alienated
The 1987 deal was an excellent deal for the tamils
For the sinhalese it represented humiliation,
a sinhalese soldier tried to hit Rajiv with his rifle and thousands of
buddhist monks protested against the Indian intervention
Later in 1999, when the LTTE captured elephant pass,
the same monks came and demonstrated in favor of an Indian intervention
to save their sorry ass
The 1987 deal was accepted by all the other tamil political and militant wings
In 1987, that was the best that India could do at that time, given the decline of the USSR and the rise of the unipolar world
In 1987, the LTTE attacked the IPKF and now they want the same Indian army to save their ass
The LTTE attack on IPKF included attacking Indian military hospitals and doctors
Several dozen captured IPKF soldiers were necklaced
What this has ensured is that the Indian army will mutiny if in future asked to intervene in favor of tamils
Next is conducting assassinations on indian soil
This started alienating TN opinion
The icing on the cake was the assassination of Rajiv
The fear grew in Indian political circles that if ever eelam was established
it would send in assassination squads into India
Next, is association with Tamil Separatist groups in India, such as TNLA,
association with naxals, ULFA, Naxals, ISI, all of which turned Indian establishment super hostile and shut down the flow of weapons from India
LTTE websites earlier used to have maps of Greater Ealam, which includes
most of south India, that this further alarmed the Indian establishment
The rise of the UPA was due to a LTTE brokered deal in 2004 wherein the DMK switched from NDA to UPA
With rise of UPA, it lacked common sense to understand that Sonia given and opportunity would screw it
It failed to understand that Dravidianism is dead in TN, what is alive is caste vote banks and corruption
DMK did not give up its ministerships to save LTTE
At the local level, plenty of TN tamils are alienated by aggressive EJ,
and a force with Soosai ( joseph ), Reagan, Lawrence, Charles Anthony,
John Chelvanayagam, is looked on with suspicion
The congress will always be around with 25% of the vote,
and even NDA could not do business with the assassins of Rajiv
The Indian establishment even during NDA rule was heavily congress
What really turned the tide in the last Ealam war is the Indian navy
putting a cordon around sri lanka and preventing weapons inflow to the LTTE
The Sri Lankan establishment by publicly genuflecting to India, for over 15 years, tried to show themselves as more reliable Indian puppets than the uncontrollable LTTE
Sri Lanka was the only state in 1998, to support the Indian nuke test
I read an article about Mrs.IG training tamil militants in 1983
This was done to encourage them to move to India and be under Indian control ( from 1972 - 1983, they were self-training with PLO in lebanon )
Mrs.IG had promised them Indian help to sizeable autonomy,
Even at this stage, Prabhakaran was warning his Indian trained cadre to be prepared to attack Indian army if they blocked ealam
In 1985, there was an interview with Anita Pratap, and VP, told her that he would have to fight India, because he wanted Ealam, not autonomy
The pre 1983, humiliations and discriminations that the sri lankan tamils faced at the hands of the sinhalese were very similar to what the Indian tamils dished out to the TN brahmins ( with less violence in TN )
I dont see why the Jaffna tamils were complaining about marks standardisation ( adding marks to students from sinhalese provinces )
while Indian tamils had 70% reservation
B.Raman writes , that if Jaffna tamils are asked their religion, they say
Saivite, not hindu
The Jaffna tamils considered the Indian tamils of the plantations as low caste and supported the sinhalese in disenfranchising them
The Jaffna tamil mentality in many ways is similar to Indian muslim Ashraf mentality, a sense of entitlement and superiority
As far as the LTTE defeating the IPKF,
first of all unlike the barbarous Sri Lankan army, the IPKF fought with restraints and slowly cornered the LTTE into 30 square miles of Vanni Jungle
Free elections were held and LTTE was a few months away from total defeat
The Jaffna tamils called the IPKF as Innocent people killing force
They dont know how good they had to have the civilised Indian army
unlike the barbarous sinhalese army
In Jaffna tamil websites they called Indian army as racists and rapists
While there are always some bad apples, IMHO, the multicultural Indian army is better behaved than western armies
Now they wanted the same racist and rapist army to save their asses
In 1989, The LTTE took shelter in sinhalese areas and got weapons from Premadasa
The LTTE and Premadasa both wanted the Indians out
Each thought that they could win totally
In war, sometimes you lose, LTTE forgot that
By always going for an all or nothing, they got nothing
Vae victis,
I read an interview with Thondaman, the leader of the Indian tamils
He said that he uses trade unionist methods by raising some issues now and other issues in a few years and gets step by step concessions
whereas the Jaffna tamils think like lawyers and they assemble facts and demand full satisfaction immediately
Finally at the core, this is a buddhist crusade against hindus
This started before LTTE, and VHP etc, must reconsider how they view buddhism
Same has happened to hindus in Myanmar, Bhutan ( Mahayana )
Because buddhism in practise is very political and the gay buddhist monks are as feral as gay catholic monks
The classic Indian history which shows hindus as bad and buddhists as good is clearly wrong.
The bakthi movement against buddhism was a grassroots effort