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Just because it carries the name of Shankara does not give it invincibility

Pathma, you are right and wrong at the same time. It is not the associatgion with Sankara that gives Advaita its invincibility. It is the other way around. It is in the exposition of Advaita and bringing it within reach of ordinary mortals that adds luster to the memory of this extraordinary individual.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Thanks Kaushal. I think we are both right. Just mentioning Shankara or advaita vedanta no longer subdues Hindus too.

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->But at the same time we the modern Sanatani will not take it lying down while his name is vilified and dragged in the mud as if he was a common murderer and a thief (and believe me we have more than our fair share of such charlatans in high public life in India) <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I know very, very well about the character of Indian politicians and their machinations. This we can handle. Regarding JS, we simply have to go thru the trying times, fight the legal battle, and at the same time be prepared to lose. In this, it is heartening to know there is a suggestion for a third acharya. I think we have a breakthrough. In my mind, no matter what, VS must not succeed.

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By adopting casteism

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I meant that the 4 original shankara mutts maintained their brahminical order during, and right after Shankara. They did not allow non brahmins into vedapadasalas and graduating as priests, into the mutts as monks, nor upanayana for all. They have maintained this tradition till today. Until recently non brahmins could not even enter their temples. Their segregation policies reminds us of Rhodesia and South Africa. Untonsured widows cannot approach JS. Non brahmins and dvijas, being 80% of society were shut out of the religion and its sacraments. All of this is reminiscent of the dark ages. This is the sore point.

But you are right, as of now its the GOI with its reservation policies, and most monasteries and padasalas that perpetuates the caste system. These orders must reform or go. And laws must be changed. I do not see the latter happening without international intervention.


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This I got to hear Kaushal. The way I know it most orders of every sect are casteist. I am willing to admit error.

Regards.

Pathma