You may disagree but from Allama Iqbal's speeches, you cannot say for sure that he was propounding an independent nation as he never explicitly stated that. He wanted a muslim majority federal state with more powers vested in the provinces than the centre - something like the US system.
Quoting directly from his last public speech in Lahore he said:
That is why he is revered in India as much as he is revered in Pakistan. His Tarana-e-Hind is a national song and the music for this song is what the army marches to on Republic day parade.
Also please note that when he said Indian Muslims he actually included muslims of the present day Pakistan as well.
So yes the two nation theory was propounded by Sarvarkar first, not Allama Iqbal. The actual words two nation theory was used by Sarvarkar first. You cannot change this historical fact.
Besides, Asim Aquil has already proven my point about the irrelevance of religious connotations when you talk about India Vs Pakistan. That is all I am saying. Pakistan is a reality and there is no use denying its existence. Maybe its about time that Pakistan becomes Iqbal ka Pakistan as envisoned by him in his last speech quoted here.
WRONG! Allama Iqbal said the following:
In his presidential address on December 29, 1930, Iqbal outlined a vision of an independent state for Muslim-majority provinces in northwestern India:
"I would like to see the Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sind and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single state. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated Northwest Indian Muslim state appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of Northwest India."
In his speech, Iqbal emphasised that unlike Christianity, Islam came with "legal concepts" with "civic significance," with its "religious ideals" considered as inseparable from social order: "therefore, the construction of a policy on national lines, if it means a displacement of the Islamic principle of solidarity, is simply unthinkable to a Muslim."[10] Iqbal thus stressed not only the need for the political unity of Muslim communities, but the undesirability of blending the Muslim population into a wider society not based on Islamic principles. He thus became the first politician to articulate what would become known as the Two-Nation Theory â that Muslims are a distinct nation and thus deserve political independence from other regions and communities of India. However, he would not elucidate or specify if his ideal Islamic state would construe a theocracy, even as he rejected secularism and nationalism. The latter part of Iqbal's life was concentrated on political activity. He would travel across Europe and West Asia to garner political and financial support for the League, and he reiterated his ideas in his 1932 address, and during the Third Round-Table Conference, he opposed the Congress and proposals for transfer of power without considerable autonomy or independence for Muslim provinces. He would serve as president of the Punjab Muslim League, and would deliver speeches and publish articles in an attempt to rally Muslims across India as a single political entity. Iqbal consistently criticised feudal classes in Punjab as well as Muslim politicians averse to the League.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='color:red'>500 Million Muslims of indian sub continenent is a big power ,Britishers and Hindu leaders were afraid of this power , may be that is reason they adopted divide and rule methodology, formula developed for seperation was in favour of India , hydrabad and Kashmir taken by force and East pakistan was 1000 miles away from West Pakistan.
I think Indian sub continent should remain united but muslim populated states or provinces should have been given autonomy.Allama Iqbal also had given similar idea.
Now muslims remain in India are facing lot of problems due to division and bangalees will always remain under threat of India.</span><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Quoting directly from his last public speech in Lahore he said:
That is why he is revered in India as much as he is revered in Pakistan. His Tarana-e-Hind is a national song and the music for this song is what the army marches to on Republic day parade.
Also please note that when he said Indian Muslims he actually included muslims of the present day Pakistan as well.
So yes the two nation theory was propounded by Sarvarkar first, not Allama Iqbal. The actual words two nation theory was used by Sarvarkar first. You cannot change this historical fact.
Besides, Asim Aquil has already proven my point about the irrelevance of religious connotations when you talk about India Vs Pakistan. That is all I am saying. Pakistan is a reality and there is no use denying its existence. Maybe its about time that Pakistan becomes Iqbal ka Pakistan as envisoned by him in his last speech quoted here.
WRONG! Allama Iqbal said the following:
In his presidential address on December 29, 1930, Iqbal outlined a vision of an independent state for Muslim-majority provinces in northwestern India:
"I would like to see the Punjab, North-West Frontier Province, Sind and Baluchistan amalgamated into a single state. Self-government within the British Empire, or without the British Empire, the formation of a consolidated Northwest Indian Muslim state appears to me to be the final destiny of the Muslims, at least of Northwest India."
In his speech, Iqbal emphasised that unlike Christianity, Islam came with "legal concepts" with "civic significance," with its "religious ideals" considered as inseparable from social order: "therefore, the construction of a policy on national lines, if it means a displacement of the Islamic principle of solidarity, is simply unthinkable to a Muslim."[10] Iqbal thus stressed not only the need for the political unity of Muslim communities, but the undesirability of blending the Muslim population into a wider society not based on Islamic principles. He thus became the first politician to articulate what would become known as the Two-Nation Theory â that Muslims are a distinct nation and thus deserve political independence from other regions and communities of India. However, he would not elucidate or specify if his ideal Islamic state would construe a theocracy, even as he rejected secularism and nationalism. The latter part of Iqbal's life was concentrated on political activity. He would travel across Europe and West Asia to garner political and financial support for the League, and he reiterated his ideas in his 1932 address, and during the Third Round-Table Conference, he opposed the Congress and proposals for transfer of power without considerable autonomy or independence for Muslim provinces. He would serve as president of the Punjab Muslim League, and would deliver speeches and publish articles in an attempt to rally Muslims across India as a single political entity. Iqbal consistently criticised feudal classes in Punjab as well as Muslim politicians averse to the League.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><span style='color:red'>500 Million Muslims of indian sub continenent is a big power ,Britishers and Hindu leaders were afraid of this power , may be that is reason they adopted divide and rule methodology, formula developed for seperation was in favour of India , hydrabad and Kashmir taken by force and East pakistan was 1000 miles away from West Pakistan.
I think Indian sub continent should remain united but muslim populated states or provinces should have been given autonomy.Allama Iqbal also had given similar idea.
Now muslims remain in India are facing lot of problems due to division and bangalees will always remain under threat of India.</span><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-hist...her-wwii-2.html