Christian Subversion And Missionary Activities - 6

[Husky]

Two things to do with some things in post 301



1. On Roncalli, Vatican II, heresy, anti-pope, automatic ex-communication, allegations of freemasonry, etc.

http://www.sarabite.info/pd-popes.html

John Paul II did not get all his last requests. It was said he had asked to be buried in the earth; however, the cardinals decided that a choice spot in the Vatican grotto was more appropriate to their latest superstar and he was given the favored spot occupied by John XXIII, who was moved to another location. Truly do the Romans say, "There's nothing so dead as a dead pope."

Like I had stated, there were two John XXIIIs, the later one being Angelo Roncalli of Vatican II who had loosened up the catholic church a little with his Vatican II reforms. I'd said I suspected that it would be Roncalli whose remains were 'disturbed' to plonk JPII down in his place (since the other, earlier, Pope John XXIII was a declared anti-pope and therefore not likely to have been given such an important burial spot). Also said that the choice to move Roncalli wasn't mere coincidence: JPII and Ratzy both rolled back a lot of the stuff in Vatican II - such as how JPII brought back exorcism which Roncalli had got the church to abandon - and have been privately intent on undoing all of Roncalli's reforms.



Because Roncalli is popular among the liberal catholic crowd, the Catholic Church can't officially get the deceased pope for heresy. (Remember that in early catholic history, some deceased popes who were adjudged heretics by later successors got dug up, excommunicated, and burnt for their heresy. <- No body, means can't resurrect on Day of Judgement, means no heaven, implies hell. It's why "witches" got burnt. Even exhumation/disturbing the remains is considered fearful in christianism - it's why there was such a condemnation of autopsies for a long time.)



So, the fact that:

a) it was probably Roncalli's corpse that got dug up to make way for JPII's corpse,

b.) JPII and Ratzy have been undoing his Vatican II reforms (obviously they don't like his policy, i.e. consider it uncatholic), and

c) they can't show this disapproval of Roncalli and what they think is his anti-catholicism in public, because of catholics in the northwest of Europe remembering him so fondly,



^ All those things made me think that the last two popes consider Roncalli a heretic. This is entirely but a suspicion of course. But consider: they can only silently make him go into the annals of the forgotton, precisely because he is popular with a section of modern catholicism. They can't publicly dig him up, try his corpse (as happened to at least one pope long ago) and burn it for heresy (as happened to I think more than one pope long ago). Instead, they achieve Posthumous Demotion of Roncalli by moving his remains, for such seemingly random and inconspicuous reasons like putting the more popular (because more recent) JPII in his place. Playacting like: "The burial spaces in the Vatican Grotto are full. Oh look, why don't we move Roncalli/John XXIII out of the way? Good idea."



The following page makes me think it not unlikely: the voice of a less liberal, hence Truer catholic section of the holy sheep suspects Roncalli of being a Freemason. (It's a page by catholics who, though suspicious of opus dei, are very catholic in many another respect.)

Anyway, what is important is that they consider Roncalli an anti-pope. And based on the following, one has more reason to think the last two popes and their Vatican privately regarded Roncalli an anti-pope too.



www.opusdeialert.com/roncaliamason.htm

Documented Evidence that Angelo Roncalli a.k.a "pope" John XXIII was a Freemason

Starts with this interesting bit:

The following article (below) was originally printed in the Portugal Daily News on November 11, 2002. It provides documented evidence that "Cardinal" Angelo Roncalli was a practicing Freemason, which incurs automatic excommunication from the Catholic Church. Also, Roncalli's illegal usurpation of the papal throne by force, at the 1958 Papal Conclave, from the lawfully elected and true Pontiff, Gregory XVII formally Cardinal Giuseppe Siri of Genoa, Italy (Click here for information, including recently declassified FBI documents pertaining to this sinister crime) makes the use of the term "Pope" in this article, in reference to this gluttonous agent of Satan [Roncalli] an impossibility.

Then follows a B&W photo of Roncalli with Freemasons, with the caption:

[color="#0000FF"]"Cardinal" Angelo Roncalli a.k.a Anti-Pope John XXIII, was a Documented Freemason[/color]



And then this bit:

The implications of FI’s disclosures are of tremendous importance to Catholics worldwide. Under Canon Law any Catholic who [...] becomes a Mason is ipso facto excommunicated from the Church. The consequence regarding Angelo Roncalli, would have been that as an excommunicate it would have been impossible for him to be elected pope. FI also points out that any decrees issued by Roncalli under the mantle of the Papacy would therefore be null and void, including the convoking of the Second Vatican Council in 1962.

Hmmm, I'm almost sure the Vatican thinks Roncalli is an anti-pope. An excommunicate certainly.

And that explains the rather weighty decision to "lightly" move his remains to make way for JPII. <- Moving bodies of important christist bureaucrats - like Popes - is NOT a simple decision, even if they make it look that way.



And then this interesting bit:

Long-standing suspicions regarding John XXIII’s links to Masonry were further aroused in 1977, fourteen years after his death. Of particular interest was an advertisement published in the USA, Boston Pilot Magazine, which was offering for sale replicas of John XXIII’s pectoral cross. [color="#FF0000"]The cross was decorated with several Masonic symbols and had been authorised for sale by Archbishop Capovilla of Loreto, Italy, with the backing of the Vatican.[/color]

[color="#800080"](Demoting Roncalli: Vatican selling away/disposing the heretic's heretical cross. Like it disposed of the body by moving it from its important location.)[/color]



The Australian Robert Bergin, a founder member of FI who died in 1996, spent the last years of his life in Portugal, where he financed several publications detailing the facts linking the plight of Roncalli to the prophecies given by the Virgin Mary at Fátima in 1917. His efforts to persuade the Vatican to investigate Roncalli’s Masonic connections were unsuccessful. This was of little surprise, as in 1976 the Vatican had failed to respond to the Italian journal, Burghese, which had published a list of over one hundred bishops and cardinals who it claimed were Freemasons. The list was purported to have been taken from the Italian Masonic Register and included the initiation dates and code names assigned to each of the clerics involved.

How quaint: the Infiltrati got infiltrated. And they're fretting about the damage done and doing their best to stem it.



Not that they should be shocked. After all, several popes in history were regarded as satanists both by entourage and papal successors, weren't they (e.g. look for the words "satan" or "devil" in this list of famous Popes in history). Note that satanism is a branch of christianism (it only exists in christianism and among the christo-conditioned, the free world doesn't believe in satan/jeebus/gawd) that the rest of christianism doesn't get along with. As stated once before, the satanic/luciferian church has the same structure and model as the christian church. Christianism is a dualist religion: one side loves jeebus, the other side loves satan - both are fictional characters from the bible and, going by what critical de-converts from christianism say about the bible/jeebus/gawd/satan, are indeed equated in the biblical text.

And remember that next to jeebus/gawd fiction, the greatest pre-occupation of all christians is with the "devil/satan" makebelieve.





2. Remember that movie "Passion of the christ", which news outlets said the Pope had seen and about which he had declared it was 'how the christ fiction actually happened'?



Here's recent news on the faithful catholic that made it, Mel Gibson. (Recall that, like the angry Goan faithful Lucio Mascaren~has, Gibson is part of the breakaway True Catholic Church, the Society of St. Pius X. It broke away because the official catholic church had become too lax. But the Vatican has recently reconciled with it, even as it has disassociated itself with the objectionably lax things like Vatican II.)



au.ibtimes.com/articles/32764/20100706/mel-gibson-struggles-to-save-career-after-racist-remarks.htm

Jul 7, 2010 06:09 AEST

Mel Gibson struggles to save career after racist remarks



Dad-of-eight and devout Catholic Mel Gibson is striving to save his career after his racist outburst against the mother of his child, Oksana Grigorieva.



Hollywood bosses last night said his vile actions make him an outcast. Civil rights and women's groups campaigned for a boycott of his films.



The actor is reported to have been caught on tape telling Ms Grigorieva, "If you get raped by a pack of n******, it will be your fault."



This new controversy comes after Gibson's anti-Semitic jibe at a Jewish police officer four years ago.



Veteran campaigner Rev. Jesse Jackson yesterday said the Braveheart actor must "seek help".



"His penchants for anti-Semitic and racist diatribes reveal the actor's fundamental character flaw." Glenn Selig, founder of PR firm The Publicity Agency, said: "The public can overlook a lot, but this is not something they will tolerate or stomach. This will spell the end for Mel Gibson.



"If true, not only will he be rejected by the public but by Hollywood," according to Mr Jackson.



One studio boss said, "Last time he just managed to claw back his career. This time he will be a pariah.



"He offended not only women but a huge swathe of the public. Any Hollywood exec will fear a backlash if they use him."



In his despicable raves, Mr Gibson is understood to have called his Russian musician ex-lover "a whore". The couple separated in April after Ms Grigorieva obtained a restraining order against the actor, claiming he had hit her in the face and knocked out two teeth.



Ms Grigorieva, 40, is reported to have given a recording to court officials as evidence in their custody fight over their nine-month-old daughter. The tape, which lasts 30 minutes, consists of phone messages and secret recordings.



Mr Gibson's spokesman said, "I have no comment on and furthermore no knowledge of the credibility or authenticity of any alleged audio tapes."

Arch-racist, misogynist and anti-semitic. How very catholic of him.



Revolting.

His racism against Africans sounds so very KKK. Although KKK are faithful christians too, they're protestant. Whatever, all the same.



The only good thing in all of this is that maybe arch-catholic Mel and his very christist movies (i.e. hate movies) - such as the anti-Mayan christist propaganda film "Apocalypto" and "Passion of the christ" which repeated the long-standing christian anti-Semitic libel against Jews - will be forever avoided by all decent people.