03-09-2005, 03:27 AM
Kanu wrote
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->No it wasnt par for course. Even after the partition of Hastinapur and Indrapruhsta the Kauravas still wanted more, they were greedy they wanted absolute power and wouldnt let anything stop them from getting it. They already had a kingdom with large resources, their Kshatriya dharma stated that if they wished to wage war and take the land from the Pandavas then that would atleast be legitimate. They were cowards though, they didnt have the guts to face the Pandavas so they cheated in the game. Kshatriya dharama states that they can gamble and whatever they win legitimately is fine, but they cheated the whole thing should have been void and illegal but they got away with it.
Yudhistir had no right to put his wife or brothers on the line, Krishna scolded him for that, he doesnt have the right to speak for someone else in such high stakes. His brothers too should have spoken up, Bhima did but he was told to quiten down. Dhidrashtra, Bhismasen, Acharya all should have put a stop to it but they put protocol and politics above what was the right thing to do. Everyone was guilty in a way but the Kauravas were most guilty and in the end they paid the highest price. Krishna told them all that they were all wrong on the day of the game, some were a lot more wrong though.
I agree with timing though. Yet I feel Yudhistir still believed that Duryodhona still had a bit of honor left in him so he went ahead and fullfilled his part of the bargain (and in the process the seeds for the Kauravas final destruction were laid as alliances were made during the 1 year in the palace with Uttara etc). Yet the only honor Duryodhona had left in him was Karan, his relationship with Karan was the only time when he truly showed any compassion. He befriended Karan initially for his own gain but in the end he was the only one to truly look beyond Karan's seemining low caste up bringing, and Karan almost turned the battle at Kurukshetra.
I agree with you on the Greeks at Troy bit. They were looking for a reason and Paris gave them one. You know what they say, after Kurukshetra all the rules went out of the window, all rules of honor were hollow. And if we look at history since then, those that have been able to be the most vile have ended up winning.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->No it wasnt par for course. Even after the partition of Hastinapur and Indrapruhsta the Kauravas still wanted more, they were greedy they wanted absolute power and wouldnt let anything stop them from getting it. They already had a kingdom with large resources, their Kshatriya dharma stated that if they wished to wage war and take the land from the Pandavas then that would atleast be legitimate. They were cowards though, they didnt have the guts to face the Pandavas so they cheated in the game. Kshatriya dharama states that they can gamble and whatever they win legitimately is fine, but they cheated the whole thing should have been void and illegal but they got away with it.
Yudhistir had no right to put his wife or brothers on the line, Krishna scolded him for that, he doesnt have the right to speak for someone else in such high stakes. His brothers too should have spoken up, Bhima did but he was told to quiten down. Dhidrashtra, Bhismasen, Acharya all should have put a stop to it but they put protocol and politics above what was the right thing to do. Everyone was guilty in a way but the Kauravas were most guilty and in the end they paid the highest price. Krishna told them all that they were all wrong on the day of the game, some were a lot more wrong though.
I agree with timing though. Yet I feel Yudhistir still believed that Duryodhona still had a bit of honor left in him so he went ahead and fullfilled his part of the bargain (and in the process the seeds for the Kauravas final destruction were laid as alliances were made during the 1 year in the palace with Uttara etc). Yet the only honor Duryodhona had left in him was Karan, his relationship with Karan was the only time when he truly showed any compassion. He befriended Karan initially for his own gain but in the end he was the only one to truly look beyond Karan's seemining low caste up bringing, and Karan almost turned the battle at Kurukshetra.
I agree with you on the Greeks at Troy bit. They were looking for a reason and Paris gave them one. You know what they say, after Kurukshetra all the rules went out of the window, all rules of honor were hollow. And if we look at history since then, those that have been able to be the most vile have ended up winning.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->