03-29-2005, 07:41 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Sunder+Mar 28 2005, 01:21 PM-->QUOTE(Sunder @ Mar 28 2005, 01:21 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Dead wrong. The sunwheel swastika has been used by the Norse mythology and social life for many centuries before the Christian invasion. Just because Indians didn't know about it, doesn't mean it didn't exist.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A shape such as a Swastika could exist anywhere. There is no debate on that. Can you enlighten me with the following:
1) What was the Sunwheel "Swastika" called? Was it called Swastiko or something similar?
2) How long before the Christian invasion did this exist. I know Christianity itself did not exist too long ago. It's barely 2 millenia old.
3) Did Hitler (or any other European worth his/her name) adopt the nordic "Swastika" as their emblem?
Your arrogant claim that "Just because Indians did not know" contradicts your claim of a central Aryan origin. If there was a central Aryan origin, woulnt Aryans have attibuted Swastika to the central proto-whatever-it-is tribe?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Personally, I think the Persians (who, as you can see geographically, are racially related to us) are the true Aryans that existed, this can be noted in King Darius' speech.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Personally, you are free to think what ever you wish to. There is absolutely no one stopping you from having a personal opinion. But do you have Mitochondrial DNA evidence to back up the claim?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->White, Black, Blue I'm not really concerned, the same high and noble blood runs in our veins, we should make the absolute most of it, and most of us do.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
True, it's pure African blood that flows in our veins that we took along with us 150,000 years ago. We then passed this on to the Europeans, Arabs, Chinese and the rest of the world. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1) The name may have been different or the same, who cares. It's the same symbol.
2) I'm not sure of this, perhaps you could do some of YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
3) Yes, perhaps you have heard of the Thule Society?
<img src='http://www.intelinet.org/swastika/thulesoc.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
The image shows the swastika more as a Nordic rune, Hitler merely straightened the edges.
We share a common link, that is proven by the language tree which is upheld by Linguists. How much of that link left is reallly visible, as we are the strongest to have still maintained our ancient culture without falling into the traps of Semitic religions.
Central Aryan Origin? There is no doubt that Caucasians have influenced our genetic make up, look at it geographically. You also cannot put aside that there were people (proto-europeans perhaps) that were predating the Aryans. The sunworshippers were orignally Indo-Europeans, even the Native American tribes of America resemble this, since they are part Caucasian and part Asiatic. This means, they could've spread outwards from Iran, "Caucasus"
Iran means "Land of the Aryans", you can do all the genetic evidence bla bla bla you want, but you are wasting your time. This doesn't make them superior/inferior, but only that they have taken that label.
As for the African rubbish, thats exactly what it is.
A shape such as a Swastika could exist anywhere. There is no debate on that. Can you enlighten me with the following:
1) What was the Sunwheel "Swastika" called? Was it called Swastiko or something similar?
2) How long before the Christian invasion did this exist. I know Christianity itself did not exist too long ago. It's barely 2 millenia old.
3) Did Hitler (or any other European worth his/her name) adopt the nordic "Swastika" as their emblem?
Your arrogant claim that "Just because Indians did not know" contradicts your claim of a central Aryan origin. If there was a central Aryan origin, woulnt Aryans have attibuted Swastika to the central proto-whatever-it-is tribe?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Personally, I think the Persians (who, as you can see geographically, are racially related to us) are the true Aryans that existed, this can be noted in King Darius' speech.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Personally, you are free to think what ever you wish to. There is absolutely no one stopping you from having a personal opinion. But do you have Mitochondrial DNA evidence to back up the claim?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->White, Black, Blue I'm not really concerned, the same high and noble blood runs in our veins, we should make the absolute most of it, and most of us do.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
True, it's pure African blood that flows in our veins that we took along with us 150,000 years ago. We then passed this on to the Europeans, Arabs, Chinese and the rest of the world. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1) The name may have been different or the same, who cares. It's the same symbol.
2) I'm not sure of this, perhaps you could do some of YOUR OWN RESEARCH.
3) Yes, perhaps you have heard of the Thule Society?
<img src='http://www.intelinet.org/swastika/thulesoc.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
The image shows the swastika more as a Nordic rune, Hitler merely straightened the edges.
We share a common link, that is proven by the language tree which is upheld by Linguists. How much of that link left is reallly visible, as we are the strongest to have still maintained our ancient culture without falling into the traps of Semitic religions.
Central Aryan Origin? There is no doubt that Caucasians have influenced our genetic make up, look at it geographically. You also cannot put aside that there were people (proto-europeans perhaps) that were predating the Aryans. The sunworshippers were orignally Indo-Europeans, even the Native American tribes of America resemble this, since they are part Caucasian and part Asiatic. This means, they could've spread outwards from Iran, "Caucasus"
Iran means "Land of the Aryans", you can do all the genetic evidence bla bla bla you want, but you are wasting your time. This doesn't make them superior/inferior, but only that they have taken that label.
As for the African rubbish, thats exactly what it is.