4. And older stuff follows. Not sure if at all relevant to point 1 in the previous post.
But in point 1, the excerpt from the Massive Migration paper did mention "M417".
Googling "M417 haplogroup" and it seems to be variously mentioned as R1a1a and R1a1a1 (honestly, who came up with this naming scheme? What were they thinking? Again, I blame biologists. They're all mad as a hatter. And to think I used to make fun of mathematicians and those in chemistry. When really, one's ire should be concentrated on biologists.)
omilosmeleton.gr/pdf/en/indology/The_Collapse_of_the_AIT_13_2_2013.pdf
p.22
p.26
Well, are all studies before 2012 affected by that error that the British group of biologists made - see post 449 - and which made them conclude 80% European Y was neolithic or something? You know, before their more recent study then concluded that actually 60% of much of Europe was Bronze Age instead. Does that same error plague everybody? Or is it just Mark Jobling's group that used to do this wrong until they were corrected?
'Cause if the statements at the omilosmeleton doc do yet hold, Googling for "m458" is interesting too.
But in point 1, the excerpt from the Massive Migration paper did mention "M417".
Googling "M417 haplogroup" and it seems to be variously mentioned as R1a1a and R1a1a1 (honestly, who came up with this naming scheme? What were they thinking? Again, I blame biologists. They're all mad as a hatter. And to think I used to make fun of mathematicians and those in chemistry. When really, one's ire should be concentrated on biologists.)
omilosmeleton.gr/pdf/en/indology/The_Collapse_of_the_AIT_13_2_2013.pdf
p.22
Quote:Yet another later study by Sharma S. et al establishes again the Indoaryan indigenism:
ââ¬ÅThe Indian origin of paternal haplogroup R1a1 substantiates the autochthonous origin of Brahmins and the case systemââ¬Â (2009).
[...]
Sharma S. et al 2009 ââ¬ËThe Indian Origin of paternal halpogroup R1a1...ââ¬â¢ in the Journal of Human Genetics, January.
p.26
Quote:A study by P. Underhill, one of the foremost geneticists, shows that the gene R1a1a is common in North India and among Europeans like the Czechs, Poles and Lithuanians. The oldest strain of this gene mutation was concentrated in Gujarat, Sindh and W est Rajasthan. This together with the M458 mutation is estimated to have travelled northwestward out of India at the latest 8000 years ago. (See Underhill 2010). Thus it is quite acceptable that Vedic tribes moved away from Sapta-Sindhu to Bactria and thence to other areas where IE languages have been found.
Well, are all studies before 2012 affected by that error that the British group of biologists made - see post 449 - and which made them conclude 80% European Y was neolithic or something? You know, before their more recent study then concluded that actually 60% of much of Europe was Bronze Age instead. Does that same error plague everybody? Or is it just Mark Jobling's group that used to do this wrong until they were corrected?
'Cause if the statements at the omilosmeleton doc do yet hold, Googling for "m458" is interesting too.
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I have created a new map of R1a-M458, a lineage which I associate with the Corded Ware expansion and which peaks in West Slavic countries ...