Quote:More recently came across conspiracy theorists' sites (especially of the UFO/alien intelligence kind) that seemed to imply - with paranoid indirect references to McMoneagle - that McMoneagle was deliberately planted by the US govt for disinformation/to mislead. But their accusation was something or other to do about the US govt covering for aliens or covering up aliens or something, which really isn't my cup of tea.
Still, if misleading is what the US govt was after, don't know why the western media has to propagate the more obviously dubious Baba Vanga types.
Thank you for the post. Beyond their usual sadistic urges, there is a specific need to debase the discourse as a part of fragmenting the target culture, and now it occurs to me, that this debasement usually manifests alongside another phenomenon: when elite status cannot be secured by the usual revisionist means (the presence of the heathen and/or his memory cannot be erased). See how he has grouped cultural India with the already de-culturated Brazil and how this is presented as the most urgent (i.e., earliest) target date). Along these same lines, the interest in Iraq (riding the wave of Saddam) appears more an interest in Ancient Mesopotamia.
The need to marshal elite status became clear to me when one of J. Atwill's atheist detractors objected to his position that the Jews were once a dominant force against Empire. It also has to do with creation of false entities as the real oppressor (hiding the Church/Secular actors). Of course there is also the need to de-legitimize and overtake the anti-colonial discourse, but there is also a need to subvert the mechanism the anti-colonial resistance. Debasing (ie, Alien conspiracy), which is one of Atwill's terms, appears to be the preferred anti-discourse of Americans who are copies of Romans (as opposed to the subtler historical-based methods of the British). Just some possible leaders.. the topic is off-putting I agree (but there is some intent behind it being that way it seems). Sumishi once started a thread to discuss these issues...