03-30-2005, 09:54 PM
Hi folks,
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Viren, I dont believe that I ever said, that 'Jaya can do no wrong'. You want to reproduce that? I think I said that the b1tch blah blah.... No sane person is ever going to sit outside her mansion in a dharna or sit in protest. Not our style. Doesn't work.
Rajesh, those 29,000-40,000 crimes are crimes against dalits each year are styled as caste/racist crimes. These are not the usual ATM thefts, muggings, etc or anything else. What more stats do you want? It provides no other details you ask for.
We all know that most of these crimes are committed by OBCs', usually starting with a turf war. Rajesh, one murder, rape, or poisoning wells in the name of caste is enough. But 40,000 a year! 250,000 each decade? And usually in these kind of crimes, its caste gangs involved. One serial killer in a decade is what I can overlook. Not this! 1.77 m crimes per year does not camoflage this. Not this.
Hi Agnivayu, I agree that rapid industrilisation, which I think India will achieve by 2010, which is in just 4-5 years time, will solve most of these kind of social problems. With poverty rates below 10%, a majority of dalits will be middle class, and your neighbours, in the same apartment blocks, frolicking with your children in the same pool and gym. Most Indians dont believe this scenario, no matter what the experts say - thinking its too good to be true! Even our Malaysian experts say that Indian cities are a large construction site - nothing they have seen like this either in Malaysia or China.
Agnivayu, no one is blaming brahmins here - its a dalits vs non dalits situation. But I'm going further to ask that 'who taught the OBCs to commit such crimes'? Before there is violence and crimes, first there has to be discrimination. I'm asking who and what shastra taught these otherwise good Hindus to discriminate and unleash violence on those who 'they think' are different from them?
I am on a tsunami break, so pardon the staggered responses. <!--emo&

Viren, I dont believe that I ever said, that 'Jaya can do no wrong'. You want to reproduce that? I think I said that the b1tch blah blah.... No sane person is ever going to sit outside her mansion in a dharna or sit in protest. Not our style. Doesn't work.
Rajesh, those 29,000-40,000 crimes are crimes against dalits each year are styled as caste/racist crimes. These are not the usual ATM thefts, muggings, etc or anything else. What more stats do you want? It provides no other details you ask for.
We all know that most of these crimes are committed by OBCs', usually starting with a turf war. Rajesh, one murder, rape, or poisoning wells in the name of caste is enough. But 40,000 a year! 250,000 each decade? And usually in these kind of crimes, its caste gangs involved. One serial killer in a decade is what I can overlook. Not this! 1.77 m crimes per year does not camoflage this. Not this.
Hi Agnivayu, I agree that rapid industrilisation, which I think India will achieve by 2010, which is in just 4-5 years time, will solve most of these kind of social problems. With poverty rates below 10%, a majority of dalits will be middle class, and your neighbours, in the same apartment blocks, frolicking with your children in the same pool and gym. Most Indians dont believe this scenario, no matter what the experts say - thinking its too good to be true! Even our Malaysian experts say that Indian cities are a large construction site - nothing they have seen like this either in Malaysia or China.
Agnivayu, no one is blaming brahmins here - its a dalits vs non dalits situation. But I'm going further to ask that 'who taught the OBCs to commit such crimes'? Before there is violence and crimes, first there has to be discrimination. I'm asking who and what shastra taught these otherwise good Hindus to discriminate and unleash violence on those who 'they think' are different from them?