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Quote:Below is the image of a Jiroft horseman bearing a short lance. This is of interest as the Jiroft civilization dates back to the early Bronze age period (approximately in the 3rd millenium BC).



www.kavehfarrokh.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lancer-jiroft2.jpg

[Image: lancer-jiroft2.jpg]

Jiroft is in Iran, BTW.

Clearly, the Jiroft warrior horseman is the source of the Iranian Zoroastrian to Sarmatian horse-riders. Not steppes.



Because the Jiroft warrior horseman image above is from before the steppes had horse riding. And from before the steppes were to have invaded even BMAC forget Iran. (In fact, BMAC itself is dated 2300-1800 BCE IIRC)



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiroft_culture

Quote:The team uncovered more than two square kilometers of remains from a city dating back to at least the late 3rd millennium BC. The data Madjidzadeh's team has gathered demonstrates that Jiroft's heyday was from 2500 B.C. to 2200 B.C [2].



The image is clearly of a horse rider. And it has reins (probably also a bit going through horse's mouth, but definitely some kind of bridle is visible).



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_(horse)

Quote:Bit (horse)



A bit is a type of horse tack used in equestrian activities, usually made of metal or a synthetic material, and is placed in the mouth of a horse or other equid and assists a rider in communicating with the animal. It rests on the bars of the mouth in an interdental region where there are no teeth. It is held on a horse's head by means of a bridle and has reins attached for use by a rider.



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridle

Quote:A bridle is a piece of equipment used to direct a horse. As defined in the Oxford English Dictionary, the "bridle" includes both the headstall that holds a bit that goes in the mouth of a horse, and the reins that are attached to the bit.





So any minute now, David Anthony or his slew of IEist steppist amateurs (not that they know of the above) will either

1. try to pounce on the above as originating in the steppe and an early incursion*

2. will deny it's a horse and claim it's an ass or mule or something (anything) and deny the reins and that it's a horse rider

3. will try to get it dated to a later time

4. more desperate conniving tricks that IEists indulge in (all IEists - from whatever part of the globe they are - are factually worse than christians for stealing from others and lying)



* NOTE: Maykop originated in Iran, so steppists may NOT try to claim that Maykop was the source that led to the Iranians of Jiroft making the above imagery. (It would be the other way around. Oh and there's again the tiny fact that the ever Indian-specific mtDNA M52 was found in the Maykop culture of Novosvobodnaya. Maykop culture is dated 3700-3000 BCE IIRC and influenced Yamna. And Indians were already in Maykop. So no surprises if the Iranians were too when they've always gone up the Caucasus in their backyard.

But who *wasn't* in Maykop when Indian-specific mtDNA M52 was found there? Steppe kulturs. And if hereafter their "genetic signature" was found there - then they were present along with Indian-specific mtDNA of M52 - and then that's just damning for steppism and all IEism/AIT invasionism.)



So, the tally:

- people of Jiroft (heyday 2500-2200 BCE*) already knew of warriors riding horses: see the image of the Jiroft spearman riding the horse = pre-steppe Iranian warrior horseman.

- Meanwhile no one had seen riders on the steppes until the end of the 2nd millennium BCE = just before 1000 BCE. And repeat: even the IEist Renfrew and steppist white supremacist IEist Kuzmina - quoted by every IEist - admits it -

Quote:Archaeologist Renfrew (2000:44; quoted by Drews) wrote, “The mounted warrior nomad horseman does not make his appearance until the end of the second millennium”. Another prominent archaeologist who has been persistently researching the subject for long Kuzmina (2000:122, quoted by Drews:132) wrote “warrior-horsemen appear in the steppe not in the fourth millennium BC but at the end of the second millennium BC”.



[* For context, Jiroft's heyday of 2500-2200 BCE is before the allegedly Indo-Iranian steppe urheimat Sintashta - dated from 2100 BCE - even existed.]



So, who DIDN'T invent horse-riding? The allegedly "IE" speaking cultures on the steppes (no one knows what they spoke, right?)

[They didn't invent the wheel either, and they didn't domesticate the horse either, and they didn't invent the chariot either, and ... need one go on?]



Besides, it's too late for steppists to rewrite their IE theory to now have horse-riding steppists invade Iran so much earlier, just so they can make off with the above image of the warrior horseman in Jiroft.



Note that if the Jiroft sculpture is from between 2500 BCE-2200 BCE, then the real thing this image was inspired by (i.e. real horsemen with bridles and spears) was earlier still. How much earlier? Don't know. Either way, it's still not from the steppes, nor inspired by steppe "riders" seen in the distance from atop a mountain in Iran: steppe people weren't yet riding in 2500 BCE-2200 BCE, but about a millennium (or more) thereafter. Nor had steppist IEists claimed earlier invasions of Iran that could fall in the Jiroft period. "Sorry."





b. Quite a few of the Jiroft imagery are like (earlier) SSVC imagery, BTW.



But here's a one from Jiroft I noticed that reminded me of Zoroastrianism:



linguisticae.com/wp-content/uploads/Jiroft_tabriz_museum_1.jpg



of 2 lions biting a bull (?) from Jiroft (again: 3rd millennium BCE, heyday 2500-2200 BCE)



Compare with the famous Zoroastrian image of (a single) lion biting a bull of some Zoroastrian dynasty (Achaemenid (?). Found in Persepolis 4th century BCE. Google for: bull lion iran.



E.g. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lion_and_Sun#/media/File:Nowruz_Zoroastrian.jpg

Quote:Bas-relief in Persepolis - a symbol of Zoroastrian Nowruz - in day of a spring equinox power of eternally fighting bull (personifying the Earth), and a lion (personifying the Sun), are equal



I say continuity. And none of the sorts of convolutions that David Anthony comes up with to prop up steppe origins for "Indo-Iranian" - e.g. "Vedic burial of Rishi Dadhyanch in the steppes" nonsense of his/steppists (since shown to be absolute lies that even Anthony has been forced to retract) - is necessary to posit continuity in Iran.

- Warrior horseman. Check.

- Lion(s) biting bull as some motif. Check.
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