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Pakistan - News and Discussion -7
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Letter in the Daily Times 07 July 2006
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?p..._7-7-2006_pg3_8
Defence II

Sir: This letter is in reference to “Defence expenditure and pragmatic policies” (daily Times, July 5) by Nikhat Shaheen. India’s Defence expenditure vis-à-vis Pakistan’s defence spending is based on the following realities: India’s maritime boundary is seven times bigger than that of Pakistan; India’s land area is four times that of Pakistan’s; India’s population is seven hundred percent greater than Pakistan’s; and India’s economy is seven times greater than Pakistan’s economy. Therefore, it stands to reason that India’s defence capability and expenditure should be between five to seven times greater than Pakistan’s. Hence, it is naïve for the Pakistani intelligentsia to expect India to spend as much on defence as Pakistan does considering such a situation will result in greatly reducing India’s ability to defend itself from any external threats, from Pakistan or elsewhere.

At this juncture China’s economy is twice that of India but its defence capability and expenditure is, in real terms, more than thrice that of India. Thus Pakistan should reduce its defence spending to at least one-fifth or one-seventh that of India. <b>As far as Pakistanis’ fear of India invading Pakistan is concerned, it would be unreasonable to continue with this belief given that India is already burdened with a population of over 1.1 billion people without trying to take charge of an additional 165 million Pakistanis. </b> <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
NK WADHERA
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#2
Gem from Urdu press
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>What Sahir Ludhianvi said about Pakistan</b>
Well known writer Hameed Akhtar wrote in Daily Express that the great Indian poet of Urdu Sahir Ludhianvi came to Pakistan in 1947 and realised at once that feudals and mullahs will join up to sink the new country. He thereafter left Pakistan. He did not know then about the army. In a public meeting in Ludhiana when a young man shouted that Communists were insincere in their support of Pakistan, Sahir shouted back that Communists would be the only people in Pakistan who would defend the people when the state joined up with the mullahs to exploit the masses. That young man was Yazdani Malik and was today owner of a small steel mill in Shahdara and admits that Sahir was right.

<b>Irshad Haqqani’s verdict</b>
Writing in Jang columnist Irshad Haqqani stated that 1) Musharraf could not stand for another presidential term while in uniform; 2) he could not be army chief and president under the 1973 Constitution; 3) after getting out of uniform Musharraf could not take part in elections for two years; 4) an assembly that has only two months to run cannot morally elect a president for another five years; 5) there was no precedent that one assembly elected two presidents; 6) that a presidential election would have to be an election as laid down in the Constitution, and not a vote of confidence. Official view expressed by federal minister Sher Afgan Niazi could not be accepted as full because he was an amateur legal expert.

<b>Sectarian killings in Pakistan</b>
According to daily Pakistan, the Shia-Sunni violence started in 1986 in Lahore when Allama Ehsan Elahi Zaheer and Habibur Rehman Yazdani of Ahle Hadith were bombed. In 1988, chief of Shia organisation Tahreek Nifaz Fiqh Jafaria Allama Ariful Hussaini was killed in Peshawar. In 1990, chief of Sipah Sahaba Maulana Haq Nawaz Jhangvi was killed in Jhang. On 11 December 1990, Iranian diplomat in Lahore Sadiq Ganji was shot to death by Sipah Sahaba. On 18 January 1996 Maulana Ziaur Rehman Farooqi of Sipah Sahaba was killed at the sessions court in Lahore. In January 1996, Iranian diplomat Muhammad Ali Raheem was killed in Lahore. On 8 June 2003, 11 Hazara policemen were killed in Quetta in a bombing. In July 2003, a suicide-bombing killed 53 Shias. This was followed by the killing of Shia employees of Suparco in Karachi. On 6 October 2003, leader of Sipah Sahaba and MNA Maulana Azam Tariq was shot to death in Islamabad. In May 2004, a number of Shias were killed in Haideri Masjid in Karachi. On 30 May 2004, chief Banuri Town seminary Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai was shot in front of his house. The same day two miles away, an attack on Ali Raza imambargah killed 20 Shias. On 31 May October 2004 suicide bombing of a mosque on MA Jinnah Road in Karachi killed 24 people. In October 2004, Sialkot saw 31 killed and Barri Imam in Islamabad saw 25 killed through suicide bombing. In February 2006, suicide bombing of an ashura procession saw 40 killed.
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#3
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Difficulties of discussing culture in Pakistan </b>
Khaled Ahmed’s  A n a l y s i s 
Culture is difficult to discuss but it helps if you have someone delicately guiding the mind in the right direction. Of course the best discussion will be a kind of approximation till we have discussed culture a lot and have learned to filter out indoctrination while considering how societies live. The main problem will always relate to the necessity to look exclusively at what is on ground rather than what ought to be. After 1947, the Pakistani mind has done itself a lot of harm by becoming less creative and by becoming more prescriptive.

GEO (13 June 2006) discussed culture with federal minister for culture Mr Jamali, actress-producer Ms Samina Peerzada, filmstar Reema Khan, cultural administrator Mr Khalid Saeed Butt, historian Ms Dushka Syed, artist Mr Jamal Shah, singer Mr Ibrarul Haq, and an assorted audience. Minister Jamali said that Pakistani culture was a mixture of regional cultures, which included religion. He conceded that no state policy on culture had existed before 1975 when the great poet Faiz Ahmad Faiz formulated it in a study for the PPP government of prime minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.

Surprisingly, the culture minister was far less constipated and apologetic over culture than most government representatives. The most revolutionary statement came from him: that Pakistani culture was a part of the mosaic of regional cultures, and that religion formed just a part of it. This is where the rub is, actually. Hinduism is mostly expressed through culture whereas Islam is a transformational creed that feels polluted if mixed with an overarching cultural grid. Ideologies are transformational and Islam has been reduced to an ideology although some important modernists like Abduh and Rashid Rida tried to take it out of public life. Islam will have its own totalitarian culture, if that is possible, but it will not be a part of culture which it regards as an accretion.

Mr Khalid Saeed Butt, who was one of the founders of the Pakistan Arts Council, said that the arts were not culture but a part of it. Ms Samina Peerzada extended the definition a little by saying culture was how people chose to live (rehna-sehna). Jamal Shah pointed to the collective response of the people to their environment. Ms Dushka Syed said that as a historian she noted that culture did not remain static but was subject to change.

Mr Butt was right about the arts, especially the non-functional ones; but they do form a part of culture. A ‘people’s perspective’ tends to exclude their elitist origins but that is unrealistic. The truth is that elitist structures in architecture later become symbols of mass culture. Painting, sculpture and architecture cannot live without the patronage of the rich, but they do register with the common urban man. In this respect the arts cannot be excluded from a discussion focusing on the masses. Ms Peerzada and Mr Jamal Shah were both right because they were abstract enough. There is nothing wrong in not being too clear when discussing culture. ‘Clarity’ is the attribute of the religious fundamentalist who sees paganism in culture. Ms Syed actually saved the discussion by saying that culture did not possess the eternality of religion and was changeable.

Filmstar Reema Khan said that the governments in Pakistan had failed in formulating good culture policies and were even more lax in implementing them. She said that Pakistani film and drama were not reflective of real Pakistani culture. Ms Peerzada said that “we did not know the culture of the common man”, yet if the state tried to enforce any culture it would not be right. She said culture was destroyed by fashion, implying that fashion was outside culture. She said karo-kari was not culture.

Most of us are wrong about cinema in Pakistan. Like Indian cinema, it has been a part of our culture. Most of us refuse to accept that 90 percent of the time the common man is deriving entertainment out of culture. Unless we accept that culture is entertainment all discussion is useless. Reema, Samina and Jamal Shah are all entertainers and thus form part of the purveying machinery of our culture, just like Bullhe Shah and Shah Hussain of the past. Film is our culture like literature, and the film can be based on fantasy just like literature. No one in India breaks out into song and goes around dancing in the fields, but the Indian film would be nothing without the culture of song and dance. We must however understand that film ‘industry’ in Pakistan has to die because it is next to Bombay, just as European cinema had to die because of Hollywood. Fashion is a part of culture; so is tragically karo-kari simply because a part of our society lives according to it.

It was mooted by TV host Hamid Mir that if the language of India was Hindi why wasn’t the language of Pakistan Pakistani? Ms Syed replied that once the language of the Muslims of India was Persian, then it was the camp language called Urdu, but Urdu had the advantage of assimilating words from its environment. She said Bollywood in India still used Urdu in its films. Hamid Mir said Japan did not abandon its language while pursuing modernisation, why had Pakistan not given up English? Jamal Shah said the Japanese were proud people while Pakistanis were not able to take pride in their cultural heritage of language. He said the Japanese had their values intact, while Pakistan’s values were absent and the country was bankrupt while facing external cultural invasion. He said Pakistan’s corruption was eating up Pakistan’s values like termites.

Hamid Mir got it wrong when he said that the language of India was Hindi. Strictly constitutionally, yes, but the constitution has not been followed because the provision regarding Hindi in it is unrealistic just as Pakistan’s is about Urdu. The language of India is not Hindi. It is not even a link language. English more likely is the language of India and that is why it may progress further than China. The Japanese and the Chinese as well as many “Asian Tigers” of Southeast Asia suffer from the handicap of not knowing English. Japanese traditional culture is based on the suppression of women. In that regard it is good that Japan is under the assault of the ‘American culture’ of globalisation. Globalisation favours the minorities and women by weakening the sovereignty of the state. Culture keeps changing. Ms Syed’s remark was apt: culture changes accretively. The pants in Iran came only in the early 1900s but now Iranian peasants wear pants while the ayatollahs sport flowing robes. In Pakistan, dhoti is still current. In Pakistan, like Iran, Islam threatens culture because Islam is a transformational ideology as opposed to culture which is cumulative and accretive. One requires revolution, the other evolution. Some cultures do tolerate levels of corruption.

Ms Samina Peerzada did not agree with Jamal shah’s insertion of corruption into the subject and said that the people were not corrupt although they could be ignorant (anjaan). Mr Ibrarul Haq said that he could test a government’s attitude towards culture from the level of taxation it imposed on entertainment. In this respect all governments, by imposing high taxation (65 percent), were against culture. Dr Khalid Saeed Butt said that with each government the policy on culture was changed.

All governments of the world tax entertainment as if it was something they did not want, like cigarettes. But in third world countries the aping of the West is wrong in this regard. Entertainment is not big money in Pakistan. If you tax the cinema heavily the tax is passed on to the cinema-goer and it finally registers as a punishment and a disincentive. The rich no longer go to the cinema. In the West entertainment is big money and cinema-goers have money in their pockets. (Hollywood actresses, looking for wealth, marry mostly singers.) The state is a culture-killer if it regards entertainment as being outside culture. It should import films from India and not stop Pakistani actors from going to India. After all, half of Hollywood is people who went from Europe and Australia and New Zealand. Importing Indian films will get rid of the anti-Pakistan slant in them.

Minister Jamali defended himself against criticism for importing Indian films by saying that the government had allowed import of six Indian films because they were historical and belonged to that part of culture that Pakistan shared with India. (A bearded boy in the audience was later to ask why Pakistan had not drawn a line separating Pakistani culture from Indian culture after 1947?) He said it was not the government’s policy to import Indian films but the fact was that Pakistani cinema halls were closing down, leaving the masses without important collective entertainment. He said cinemas in Pakistan had come down from 1400 to 200 without the import of Indian films. He said the video shop had taken over and the investors had run away from the film industry. The minister also said that in the past policies were dominated by security concerns which tended to suppress culture, but now freedom had come back.

If we lock India out we will have no culture at all because what is supposed to be our culture is slowly dying under Talibanisation. Our reliance on the culture (read entertainment) of India has been furtive since General Zia put the squeeze of tashakhus on us, and which the MMA will reinforce if it comes to power. (Thankfully, after that the world will attack under Chapter Seven sanctions and the MMA will go away into Tora Bora.) Our cinema is trapped in the bad odour created by our confusion over culture. We are not alone in this. Muslims all over the world are in this quandary. Stalin inflicted the same kind of doubt on the Russians. It took them 70 years to shake off a regime that sat in judgement on culture.

A bearded boy said that cultural invasion out of globalisation was a challenge, but Pakistan could survive as a separate country only after separating Indian culture from Pakistani culture. One singer-musician in the audience said that old ways of entertainment were being destroyed and chimta and ghara were gone in the face of pop music which was foreign to Pakistani culture. He complained that Pakistan’s great singer Mehdi Hassan was being medically treated free by India and not by Pakistan. One lady in the audience said that Pakistani films portrayed a culture that was not Pakistani and therefore had to be banned. On this Reema Khan said that she had stopped acting in such movies.

The plea for realism in cinema is funny. And Reema was hypocritical. Who will watch movies that show Pakistani life as it is? One will have to ban an entire corpus of national literature too so that a culture-without-fantasy can be born. Cinema of realism can run side by side with masala movies, but the masses will watch pure escapist entertainment. There is nothing wrong with that.

Hamid Mir interjected by asking questions about how a Pakistani heroine in a film became wet under rain and was then made to dance. He said culture needed total safai (cleansing) while pointing quite irrelevantly to the fact that Pakistani culture was dominated by the culture of sazish (conspiracy). Ms Peerzada joined in by saying that since Sirajudaulah conspiracy was the way of life of Muslims and today the conspiracy was based on the rumour that Islam was in danger. Ms Dushka Syed said that now there was fresh breeze in the air in Pakistan. One girl in the audience objected strongly to the use of English greeting hai! in TV plays while the common man said salam. She herself kept slipping into English while trying to speak Urdu.

Hamid Mir was not the host with ‘informed neutrality’ and like all of us dived in without thinking too much. (Who thinks about culture, anyway?) The safai he wants is actually safaya , thanks to the beauty of Urdu idiom. When it comes to culture everyone thinks like Stalin, Imam Khomeini and Mullah Umar, or like our morose and unsmiling chief rabbi Mufti Munib. Religion is also a part of our culture and therefore Mufti Munib too is a part of us, but beware of letting him become an arbiter of what our culture should be! What we need is safai of our minds rather than the safaya of our culture. Imagine a committee formed in Islamabad to carry out Hamid Mir’s reform!
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Check matrimonial column and you will know elite culture.
#4
<!--emo&:argue--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/argue.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='argue.gif' /><!--endemo--> Kashmir issue: Bhutto slams Pak military

- ::EXCLUSIVE::

Munizae Jahangir

Sunday, July 9, 2006 (London):

In an exclusive interview to NDTV, Pakistan's former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto has claimed that the Pakistani military does not want to find a solution to the Kashmir issue.

The leader admitted that she had a hardline policy on Kashmir, but that the foreign militants operated in Kashmir only after she lost power.

Bhutto also told NDTV that A Q Khan, father of Pakistan's nuclear programme, is being made a scapegoat in the nuclear scandal.

She claimed that more powerful people in the Pakistan establishment were involved in the secret transfer of nuclear technology to countries like North Korea and Iran.
#5
<b>Pak military doesn't want K-solution: Ex Pak PM</b>
No surprise here.
#6
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Sahir shouted back that Communists would be the only people in Pakistan who would defend the people when the state joined up with the mullahs to exploit the masses.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I doubt Sahir himself knew that commies even if they tried would have been masscred like Hindus were. Or was it that Commies knew it completely and kept their mouth shut and encouraged the creation of the terrorist state. It is rumored that Sahir's most famous couplet

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was written in reference to Hindu-Muslim relations and the creation of Pakistan.
#7
Fridaytimes link available here.
#8

<b>An odious comparison</b>

About 20 years ago, my cousin went to India for a pleasure trip. On his return, he said we keep cherishing the ambition to be like Western countries although in reality, <b>we should have dreams of following India. He used to say that we are many decades behind India.

Now after 20 years, I have realized that his analysis was solid. India has left Pakistan far behind in virtually all fields. Its foreign policy, economic development, human resource, software and atomic developments are all enviable.</b>

Yes, its population is touching more than one billion but despite its many cultural/ethnic/religious problems, it is emerging as one united nation. Their army is like a servant in the house; it never dares to impose its will on the representatives of the people. Its democratic system is safe from the incursions of the 'adventurers' that blight Pakistan every now and then.

Look at us in comparison; we got Pakistan in the name of Islam. It has a 98% Muslim population, a lot of God-given resources. But we have never been one nation. We lost half the country in 1971 and are rated as the 9th 'failed state' of the world in 2006. There are question marks on everything we are doing; Our militarised state, our laqck of democracy, our failed foreign policy, our lack of transparency (remember Steel Mill? Remember the earthquake?) our lack of unity (just look at the Balochistan crisis), our lack of law and order. Everything is a question mark. –<b>ASHFAQ AHMAD, Toronto, Canada, via e-mail, July 6.</b>

Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo-->
#9

<b>Shaukat opposes Ministry's devaluation plea to boost exports</b>

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Cheers <!--emo&:beer--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cheers.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='cheers.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->ISLAMABAD-The economic team of Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has opposed the Ministry of Commerce’s idea of<b> devaluing the country’s currency for increasing exports</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
reasoning is excellent? Good economics <!--emo&Big Grin--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
#11
<b>Kargil planned before Vajpayee's visit: Musharraf </b><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Why had he gone to Kel at a time when all such things were underway. During heavy snow what was the necessity that forced him to go to Kel? One cannot do anything if someone is telling lies so consistently," Musharraf said.

The daily also published the photographs showing Musharraf accompanying Sharif. In the pictures, Sharif is seen attending a 'briefing' by former ISI Chief and retired General Mehmood, who took part in the 1999 coup by Musharraf and later quit during a purge of the military top brass following the September 11, 2001 terror attacks in the US.

A close political associate of Sharif, Raja Zaffarul Haq who was a Minister at that time, is also seen sitting with him in the meeting. Haq is currently the President of Sharif's Pakistan Muslim Leagu-N (PML-N).

The pictures also show Sharif addressing the jawans apparently of the Pakistan Light Infantry of the Northern Areas, which Sharif claimed had been wiped out as its men and officers took part in the Kargil operation.

Sharif said 2,700 personnel were killed in the Kargil operation, which according to him was far higher than the combined casualties in Pakistan's 1965 and 1971 wars with India.

Musharraf, in his television interview, also sounded a warning of sorts to Sharif and told him to be 'economical' on revealing details.

The issues relating to Kargil were extremely confidential and of paramount national importance, and these should not be publicised in the way in which the former Prime Minister was doing consistently, he said.

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#12
FT- Urdu news
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>America is a sinking ship!</b>
Great strategist and ex-ISI chief Hameed Gul wrote in Jang that America was a sinking ship and Pakistan should bail out immediately. But why was India buying a ticket on this liner (tikat kata liya)? Because it wanted to fill the vacuum created by America’s disappearance and grab the oil of Central Asia. For Pakistan, jihad was essential. Pakistan could not abandon jihad. If Muslims remained steadfast on jihad their dominance (sikka rawan) would be ensured. Muslims should not abandon jihad for fear of being called terrorists.

<b>Where is Ahmad Shah Abdali!</b>
Writing in Nawa-e-Waqt Ataur Rehman stated that what Afghanistan needed was another Ahmad Shah Abdali who should unite Pushtuns, Tajiks and Uzbeks and teach the Americans a lesson.<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'> After that Americans will run away and the Indians will go back to India remembering how Ahmad Shah Abdali had given them a drubbing at the third battle of Panipat. </span>Once Ahmad shah Abdali has done that, Pakistan and Afghanistan would have excellent relations.

<b>Give Pakistan a Hugo Chavez!</b>
Columnist Irshad Haqqani exclaimed in Jang that (ghazab khuda ka) no one among politicians had filed income tax returns admitting that he had an income exceeding Rs 25 thousand annually. Politicians who had disclosed their property and wealth in parliament had not admitted to owning a car! Everyone knew that these men owned dozens of car each but they were unwilling to pay taxes. May God give Pakistan a Hugo Chavez so that he could bring revolution and end exploitation.

<b>Rich Muslims good Muslims</b>
Writing in Nawa-e-Waqt Syed Mowahid Shah stated that Forbes magazine had recently published a list of the world’s ten richest people, out of which four were Muslims, three from the Arab world and one from Brunei. According to him Muslims could do a lot to improve their circumstances.

<b>More Jhangvi terrorists released</b>
According to Jang Lashkar-e-Jhangvi terrorists were released by a court in Multan after witnesses ‘sat down’ in a case involving the members of the banned organisation in a dacoity in a prize bond dealer’s shop in Faisalabad in 1996. The ringleader Malik Muhammad Ishaq, Ghulam Rasul Shah, Hafiz Ghulam Shafiqur Rehman and Muhammad Shafiqur Rehman were facing trial and may now be released.

<b>Jamaat Dawa is great!</b>
According to daily Din a gathering in Balakot in NWFP condemned America for banning <b>Jamaat Dawa and asked the government to oust the NGOs working in the quake-hit areas because they were indulging in impious activities. It was decided to take the case against America to the International Court of Justice</b>.

<b>Be like Chavez, Morales and Ahmadinejad!</b>
Columnist Hamid Mir wrote in Jang that Musharraf should defy American efforts to get him to attack the area of Malakand to winkle out Osama bin Laden after his escape from Kunar in Afghanistan. Musharraf had in fact already decided to stand up to an America that had signed a nuclear deal with India. He was now in the mould of two Latin American leaders, Chavez and Morales, and the Iranian president Ahmadinejad who had decided to take on America. Musharraf could be popular in America at the cost of his acceptance among the people of Pakistan, or could be popular in Pakistan at the cost of American support. Good thing, he had chosen the people of Pakistan.
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Ataur Rehman ancestors must be abused, raped by Abdali forces, which shows from his found memories.
#13

<b>The New Land Barons - Ayesha Siddiqa</b>

Abdul Karim waited in the heat outside the Supreme Court for his case to be heard. Sitting miles away from his village in Bahawalpur, the poor peasant was contesting his right over three kanals (0.375 acres) of land that had already been awarded to him through an administrative decision. He had tilled the land for years and he was deemed to be the rightful owner.

However, the land was subsequently transferred to Brigadier (Retd.) Muhammad Bashir, through another administrative order. The transfer of land to the army brigadier was part of the 33,866 acres of land given to the Army GHQ in 1993 in Bahawalpur by the provincial government. The Punjab government had transferred the land without checking its title. Out of the total land given to the army, the said brigadier got 396 kanals (49.5 acres) of land, out of which about three kanals belonged to Abdul Karim.

Brigadier Bashir contested Karim's ownership in the High Court, but the court upheld Karim's title. Not satisfied with the court's decision, Bashir filed an appeal with the highest court in the land. The Supreme Court of Pakistan also upheld Abdul Karim's ownership.

In its eagerness to favour military authorities, the district government representatives had given Abdul Karim's land to the army. Moreover, the local administration sided with the brigadier to disprove the respondent's claim over the stated land.

The Supreme Court admonished the district collector for acting capriciously and for arbitrarily transferring land that was marked as land not available for allotment. While upholding Abdul Karim's right to cultivate the land, the court also reproached the retired brigadier for impinging upon the rights of a poor peasant. In a historic judgment passed in September 2003, the Supreme Court bench warned against greed and forcibly and illegally depriving poor people of their rights.

Amazingly, Abdul Karim received justice not because he had the means to take legal action, but because Brigadier Bashir wanted his land and took the case to court. It's unlikely that this historic judgment will help many other poor villagers, though, as the only way for them to benefit from this landmark judgement would be to initiate expensive legal proceedings.

The people of the small fishing village of Mubarik were not as fortunate as Abdul Karim. Situated near the Sindh-Balochistan border, their village adjoining the sea was once their territory. For over five years now, they have watched as their land has been slowly pulled away from under their feet. Generations of their families have lived there peacefully as fishermen, but no longer. A few years back, the villagers found that they could no longer move freely on their own land. The Pakistan Navy (PN) ordered the residents of Mubarik village to limit themselves to a small area. But that wasn't the only restriction. They were also told not to construct houses on the land because the adjoining land fell within the range of the navy's target-practice range.

The villagers claim that the PN broke a promise and extended its presence beyond a point that was previously assured by the navy to be the limit of their expansion. In fact, the PN has continued to expand its presence despite the fact that there is no provision in the existing rules for a naval cantonment. Meanwhile, the uneducated villagers are unable to contest their rights: they neither know the law, nor have the money to take legal action.

They are not the only ones in this country in the same predicament. Up against elite groups, like the armed forces, poor villagers neither have the means nor the knowledge to defend their own property, the land they inhabit and cultivate. Despite the efforts of some parliamentarians to flag the issue of the military land ownership in the country, there is insufficient information available on the issue. However, one thing is clear: over the years, the armed forces have become major players in Pakistan's real estate business.

The military, including its serving and retired members, own massive tracts of land in rural as well as urban centres. They believe that the distribution of land amongst military personnel, particularly within the various housing schemes, denotes the defence establishment's superior capacity at managing resources. However, the mechanics behind the issue are not so simple. Is the allocation of military land nothing more than a tradition inherited from the British to reward defence services personnel? Or should the acquisition of land by the military be viewed in the larger perspective of the power the armed forces wield over the state and its resources?

Since the early 1950s, the military has acquired millions of acres of land throughout the country for distribution to serving and retired armed forces personnel. According to one estimate, the armed forces control about 12 million acres, constituting about 12 per cent of total state land. Out of this, 62 per cent is in the Punjab, 27 per cent in Sindh and 11 per cent in NWFP and Balochistan. About seven million acres of the total is agricultural land and has an estimated worth of Rs700 billion. Interestingly, only about 100,000 acres are directly controlled by the armed forces and its subsidiary companies, the Fauji Foundation, the AWT and the Bahria Foundation, and distributed amongst serving and retired personnel. The remainder was given (at highly subsidised rates) to army personnel as awards to be used for their personal gratification.

Granting agricultural land as a reward to individuals is a tradition inherited from the British. The Punjab Alienation of Land Act, 1900 ensured the use of canal colony land as a means to reward those serving British interests. According to Imran Ali, professor at the Lahore University of Management Sciences, in his book, The Punjab Under Imperialism, land was granted to indigenous communities under various schemes, such as offering land grants to raise horses that could then be acquired by the British cavalry. Following the principle of rewarding the 'faithful,' the Alienation of Land Act specifically stipulated allocation of 10 per cent of colonised land to the armed forces. This process of land development was incorporated later in another law known as the Colonisation of Land Act, 1912, which was updated by the Pakistan government in 1965. The law had a feudal underpinning and was based on perpetuating various local social classes that would guarantee the interests of the imperial masters. Today, the land distribution policy is still deeply rooted in this colonial logic, with the military monopolising the state's resources and continuing to offer land in exchange for allegiance to the state. Moreover, this policy is central to the problematic centre-provinces relations. The smaller provinces, in particular, are wary of the land distribution scheme that empowers Punjab versus other provinces.

For decades, land has been transferred to military personnel under the aforementioned law. The military was given 10 per cent of the approximately nine million acres of land reclaimed due to the construction of the Kotri, Guddu and Ghulam Mohammad barrages in Sindh. The government also gave land to some senior civil bureaucrats, who were the military regime's partners. Some of the prominent beneficiaries of the land reclamation scheme from the armed forces included General Ayub Khan (247 acres), General Muhammad Musa (250 acres), and Maj. General Umrao Khan (246 acres). After the military's takeover in October 1958, more land was allotted to army officers in the Guddu Barrage area. Also, agricultural land was given in the Punjab. What is even more important, however, is the fact that the land alloted to military officers was developed with foreign aid - military and economic aid from the US. Reportedly, the finance minister of Punjab, Nawab Iftikhar Hussain Mamdot, justified the use of foreign aid for land development because the money was meant for the army.

The stated logic says that armed forces personnel will be more dedicated towards developing land. This, however, has not been the case. In south Punjab, where land is often awarded to officers and soldiers that do not hail from the area, the tendency is to engage in absentee landlordism or sell the land to the highest bidder. The buyers are usually local landlords. Thus, there is no incentive to reduce the strength of the big landlords, a major problem associated with the continuation of feudalism in the country. Naturally, many big farmers do not object to the military's rural land acquisition.

However, the distribution of land alone does not empower people unless they are also provided access to three additional resources: water, farm-to-market roads and equipment to develop the land. Such facilities are only provided to senior military officers or the civil bureaucracy. In the case of south Punjab, senior military officers monopolise the three resources to their advantage. A number of army, naval and air chiefs even had serving armed forces personnel guard their lands. They, like the big land owners, use influence to gain access to the road networks and water. Lower ranking soldiers tend to leave their lands barren or sell them to the local landlords. In any case, the senior officers get more land than the junior officers and the jawans.

Any way one looks at it, this monopolisation of resources is unfair in a country where there are about 30 million landless peasants. Obviously, providing land to the landless and empowering them through provision of land developmental facilities has not been a priority of the state. In any case, as pointed out by economist Akbar Zaidi in his book, Issues in Pakistan's Economy, the land reforms during the Ayub and Bhutto eras did not benefit the poor. About 39 per cent of the land recovered during the Bhutto land reforms was never distributed among the landless.

The military's control of land feeds the largest social injustice in the country: widespread poverty. Like the feudal class, the military has been known to use its power to redistribute land amongst its own without any regard for the country's poor ethnic populations. In Bahawalpur, there are instances when land developed through years of hard work by landless peasants has been snatched away for distribution to the military bureaucracy. In the tehsil of Nawazabad, the government awarded about 2,500 acres to various military personnel. Hundreds of landless peasants were evicted from state lands after occupying it for years without incident. In an interview, these peasants protested against being evicted from the land they had partially developed and reclaimed from the desert without even a fair hearing. When the peasants took their case to court, junior military officers threatened them, ridiculed the law and advised the peasants that even the courts could not save them from the army's authority. To the villagers of Nawazabad, there was no difference between the dominant feudal lords and the praetorian military. One local woman bitterly demanded, "If there is no place for us here then [the authorities] should put us on a truck and drop us in India."


The case of Nawazabad is not an anomaly. Other places and people have also experienced the use of force by the military to obtain land for personal or operational purposes. In Yunisabad, near Karachi, the Pakistan Navy took forcible possession of the floating jetty - and the land on which it was built - that belonged to the village and was used to transport locals, especially the sick. For villagers from nearby Shamspir, the jetty was their only access point to land. A writ petition was filed with the Sindh High Court against the "illegal act of the navy" and several letters were written to the district administration highlighting human rights abuses by the PN.

Reportedly, there were occasions where local villagers were harassed and beaten up. The Navy failed to honour the court order not to interfere with public traffic.

Across the country, there are many examples of the military wielding absolute authority to suppress landless peasants in areas where they directly control the land. In Okara, a conflict ensued between local tenants and the army that had unilaterally decided to change the terms of contract from share-cropping to rent-in-cash. While share-cropping pertains to an arrangement whereby the tenants share both the input and the output with the owner or whoever controls the land, the rent-in-cash arrangement dictates that land is cultivated in exchange for money, or rent. The additional benefit of share-cropping to the tenant is that his right over the land is recognised by law. The Okara farm tenants, who had resided on the land and were responsible for tilling it, feared the new system of contract would empower the army, who were not even the owners of the land, to displace the poor tenants from their homes.

The Okara farms are part of the military farms group, Okara and Renala, which comprise 16,627 acres of land consisting of two dairy farms, seven military (oat-hay) farms and 22 villages. The prime proprietor is evidently the Punjab government, which leases the land to other people or institutions. In this particular case, the army had changed the terms of contract for land it did not own. Moreover, the land lease had expired before Partition in 1947 not to be renewed again. To enforce its authority, the Rangers besieged the villages twice, imposed curfew, restricted freedom of movement, stopped supply of medicine, food and vegetables, and used numerous other pressure tactics. The report of Human Rights Watch has detailed testimonials of villagers victimised by the military authorities that were generally dismissive of the protest. Army personnel claimed that, rather than being a human rights issue, this was a local law and order issue incited by some NGOs.

Commenting on the Okara farms case, the Director-General, Inter-Services Press Relations (ISPR), Maj. General Shaukat Sultan, said, "The needs of the army will be decided by the army itself, and/or the government will decide this. Nobody [else] has the right to say what the army can do with 5,000 acres or 17,000 acres. The needs of the army will be determined by the army itself."

However, the Okara incident was not an issue of how the army determined the usage of its land. This, like many other cases, is about the illegal use of military authority to change the legal nature of the land under its control. The army follows the practice of changing the usage of A-1 land specifically meant for operational purposes, to profit-making or for personal gratification of the officer cadre and other elite. In the Punjab, farm land has been turned into golf courses and residential housing schemes. Debates in Parliament over the past couple of years have shown that some camping grounds that the army had arbitrarily turned into golf courses were not designed for public use, but only to please a select few.

In its official response to parliamentary questions regarding the misuse of state land by the military, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) did not challenge the army's authority. The ministry upheld the army's jurisdiction over land under its control. This was done in other cases as well, such as the conversion of the firing range in Nowshehra into a citrus farm. The army vociferously defends its power over these assets and even controls information regarding these agricultural assets.

Since 9/11, there has been a noticeable boom in the value of urban real estate in the country. One of the largest beneficiaries, of course, is the military, which has engaged in the practice of converting land titles from state land to private property. It does this via two methods.

Firstly, there is the conversion of state land for private usage. A large amount of state land designated as A-1 land in various cantonments is distributed to military personnel. Here, it must be mentioned that the beneficiaries are the officers and not the soldiers. The 27 housing schemes built on state land in different parts of the country are reserved for the officer cadre, not the jawans.

The practice of urban land grabbing began soon after 1947 when military officers acquired evacuee property in the cantonment areas. During the days of the British, all cantonments were private property or owned by the provincial governments. It was mostly the land where the barracks were built that was owned by the MoD. The officers acquired the land on a transferable lease for a period of 99 years. The 99-year lease is extendable, especially in cases where military officers own the property.

According to a report submitted by the MoD to the Senate, about 78,292 square yards, or16.3 acres, totalling 130 residential plots, were given to an equal number of officers in different cities in a period from October 1999 to 2003. The report highlighted a series of cases where residential plots were carved out of state land meant for operational purposes. The cities included Karachi, Lahore and Rawalpindi, as well as smaller towns such as Kharian and Jhelum. The ranks of the beneficiaries varied from a full general to a captain. Quantitatively, the distribution was fairly even, with senior, middle-ranking and junior officers getting 46, 36 and 48 plots respectively. However, the plot sizes for senior officers were much bigger than what junior officers received. Generals of all categories received plots of 800 square yards, while plot sizes for captains were less than 500 square yards.

The cantonment area in Lahore, which, up until the early 1980s, comprised a large segment of army training grounds and firing ranges, was almost entirely converted into a residential area. In effect, army exercise and training grounds were converted from public to private use without the consent of the government or the public for whose safety the land was initially provided. This was, of course, done through an internal decision-making process rather than through consultations with the government. In fact, a major complaint is that decisions involving major military housing projects are always made when Parliament is not in session.

Such arbitrary redistribution raises concerns about misuse of state land, especially cantonment land. Major cantonments include Lahore (12,000 acres), Karachi (12,000 acres), Rawalpindi (8,000 acres), Kamra (3,500 acres), Taxila (2,500 acres), Peshawar (4,000 acres) and Quetta (2,500 acres). The fear is that most will ultimately be commercialised. In fact, Lahore, Karachi, Rawalpindi and Peshawar cantonments are no longer restricted army areas. Much property has already been resold to civilians. In Lahore, officers were given ownership of large residential properties in the cantonment area. A conservative estimate of the worth of the cantonment land in Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar and Quetta is approximately 300 billion rupees.

The transfer of one portion of Karachi's National Stadium to the Karachi Cantonment Board is a prime example of military land-grabbing. The Corps Commander Mangla, Lt. General Tauqeer Zia, who was also the Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Control Board (PCCB), was responsible for transferring the said land during his tenure as head of the PCCB. The financial dividends were superb. A minimum investment of 600,000 rupees netted a profit of about 15 million in a quick 60 to 90 days. Such manipulative capacity is only available to the most influential institutions or individuals in the country.

President Pervez Musharraf, however, claims that all is fair in real estate and military governance: "So, what is the problem if they [the armed forces] are contributing to town development here, or anywhere in Pakistan, for that matter? In Lahore, in Rawalpindi - their output is the best. The defence societies everywhere are the top societies of Pakistan…now, why are we jealous of this? Why are we jealous if somebody gets a piece of land, a kanal of land, cheap when it was initially, and because of the good work done by the society, the price rises by 100 times, and the man then earns some money. What is the problem? Why are we jealous of this? There's no problem at all."

The General conveniently forgot a certain key fact. The officer cadre pays minimum charges for this urban property. For housing schemes built on state land, in particular, the deduction from the salaries of officers goes towards subsidising construction. The officers are charged a minimal price for the value of the land itself - nothing even remotely close to the market value. It must be noted that contrary to the view that urban land is given when the city is underdeveloped, the land in large urban centres of Karachi and Lahore were given long after the cantonment areas had been developed and property prices had appreciated.

The military land manual is very specific about the use of the land falling in the cantonments or around it. There are about seven types of land managed by the Department of Military Lands and Cantonments. Most of the land mentioned is A-1. This category of land is defined as land meant purely for military purpose such as fortification, barracks, stores, arsenals, aerodromes, housing for military, parade grounds, military recreation grounds, rifle ranges, grass and dairy farms, brick fields, hospitals and gardens for use by the armed forces. Then there is A-2 category of land not actually used or occupied by the military, but used for non-essential activities such as recreation. The 'B' type lands are again divided into four sub-categories: B-1, B-2, B-3 and B-4. The B-1 type lands are owned and controlled by the federal government but used for churches, mosques, cemeteries and other ecclesiastical affairs. B-2, on the other hand, is owned by the provincial government and used to generate revenue. The last type, B-3, is private land, but where bazaars, religious buildings, or communal graveyards can also be built. The military land manual stipulates due compensation to the owner in case of acquisition of land by the government. B-4 comprises all such land not falling in any of the above three types. Finally, there is 'C' class and that contains drains and roadside plots. The categorisation of the land cannot be changed without the authority of the actual owner. That, in any case, is not a major issue. Given the military's power, such transformation of land usage has never been seriously challenged.

Interestingly, senior generals tend to ignore the legal debate. Instead, they believe that the armed forces have a right to use the land under their control in whatever manner the organisation deems fit. In the words of Maj. General Shaukat Sultan, "We don't build houses or other projects on state land but on military land." The general seems conveniently oblivious to the fact that all military land is essentially state land with specific rules governing its usage.

Consequently, most major cantonments have got into the habit of making markets and commercial plazas on state land for lease. Several senior retired generals have justified these ventures on the grounds that other armed forces, such as China's People's Liberation Army (PLA), are also involved in profit-making ventures. The PLA, however, was ordered to divest its commercial interests in 1998 to restore professionalism in the armed forces. Moreover, unlike the Pakistan military, the Chinese military is a revolutionary force that had to make 'both ends meet' since Beijing did not provide it with the requisite financial resources.

The defence housing authorities in major cities, or the housing schemes run by the Bahria and Fauji Foundations, represent yet another method of dabbling in real estate. Contrary to the view held by military personnel that these housing schemes are welfare or private ventures that basically show the superior management skills of the armed forces, there is a lot of manipulation involved in the acquisition of land. The DHA in Lahore, which came under a lot of flak due to the stories of rampant corruption, acquired land through offering plots to the owners of farm land. Of course, the owners of the land had to pay development charges to get ownership of the newly developed urban property. The DHA, meanwhile, did not have to pay money to purchase the land.

In the ever-growing DHA in Rawalpindi, there were even reports of the owners being forced to sell their land. The tehsil office refused to issue land revenue documents to the owners even six months before the land was finally purchased for the extension of the DHA, which is now worth billions of rupees. The dividends are phenomenal. In the case of DHA, Rawalpindi, land totaling 3,375 acres was acquired at a total cost of about Rs11 billion and later sold for approximately Rs135 billion.

However, the infrastructure of these elite schemes is not integrated with planning in the rest of the town. The disparity between elite versus ordinary urban planning is noticeable. It could be argued that such disparities are found across the world, but it becomes more pronounced where elite structures are combined with disproportional political power. While rural areas are being lost to urban centres, there is no effort to create opportunities for the lower middle or the middle class. These housing schemes create opportunities for the elite to make money rather than generate employment opportunities for other social classes. The elite town schemes are primarily residential areas with no provision for industrial or business infrastructure. Moreover, such schemes do not solve the shortage of six million houses presently required in the country, but denote financial investment aimed at filling the pockets of those who have the money to invest.

Referring to the compensation of land, private owners would, perhaps, consider themselves relatively lucky as compared to the state itself. The governments have not been able to exercise control over the transfer of land to the military at very low compensation. Referring to agricultural land, it is usually acquired at the rate of Rs 50 per acre. Similarly, very little is paid in the urban centres.

One of the most recent examples pertains to the acquisition of 1,165 acres of land in 2005 for the Army's GHQ in Islamabad. The land was acquired at the throwaway price of Rs 40 per square yard, which, as the MoD clarified, was legally considered the right compensation for acquisition of land for official purposes. Compensation at market rates would bloat the cost substantially.

It is also worth remembering that the transfer of land to the military deprives the state of a valuable asset. The transfer of state land to individuals, especially, constitutes an expensive subsidy from the state to the defence sector that is never recorded in the financial books.

Surely, it will be difficult to force the senior generals to give up subsidies. In fact, the issue of strengthening democracy in the country is pegged to the question of the economic interests of the senior echelons of the defence services, which have grown fat on such economic benefits.

Urban and rural real estate is one sector used for personal gratification. The military's perspective is that it uses a system of merit to reward lands to individuals. This might be true, but the system does not explain how most senior officers end up piling up numerous properties worth millions of rupees.

The power and authority of the armed forces is central to the redistribution of land, while its political power is central to acquiring state land or private property. Given the history of land distribution in the country, it can be argued that the 93 million acres of state land are under constant threat of occupation by the military and other elite groups.

Monopolisation of state land by a favoured few is counter-productive to the development of the state and the well-being of the general public. This is an issue that demands a serious debate and re-consideration of policies related to the distribution of national resources.

In the historic Abdul Karim Supreme Court judgement, the judges endorsed the following quotation from John Steinbeck's Grapes of Wrath and cautioned against accumulation of property in the hands of a few:

"And the great owner, who must lose their land in an upheaval, the great owners with access to history, with eyes to read history and to know the great fact: when property accumulates in too few hands, it is taken away. And that companion fact: when a majority of people are hungry and cold they will take by force what they need. And the little screaming fact that sounds through all history: repression works only to strengthen and knit the repressed. The great owners ignored the three cries of history. The land fell into fewer hands, the number of the dispossessed increased, and every effort of the great owners was directed at repression. The money was spent for arms, for gas to protect the great holdings, and spies were sent to catch the murmuring of revolt so that it might be stamped out. The changing economy was ignored, plans for the change ignored; and only means to destroy revolt were considered, while the causes of revolt went on."

While Abdul Karim got justice, this decision of the Supreme Court was not used as a precedence to be applied in other cases as well.

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<b>General Figures : How much is a general worth in real estate terms? - Ayesha Siddiqa</b>

According to an assessment based on the value of rural or urban plots, the worth of a general in the army in real estate terms is anything from a hefty 150 to 400 million rupees. And that is a conservative estimate. Many senior generals own up to seven to eight properties in rural areas and in the cities. This development of a land-rich military is the result of a decades-old policy of awarding land, particularly agricultural land, to loyal military personnel. However, a number of officers own more than just one piece of land due to the fact that every gallantary award is accompanied with a piece of urban or rural property. Subsequently, service chiefs were given the option of getting a plot of land in the city of their choice. This provision is traced back to General Zia-ul-Haq's era. As such, many senior officers obtained prime properties. The list includes: General (Retd.) Shamim Alam Khan, Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (allotted a 1,066-square-yard plot in the costly F-7 sector on June 11, 1994), former chief of Army Staff, General (Retd.) Abdul Waheed Kakar (allotted a 1,200-square-yard plot, number 6 in sector G-6/4 on September 7, 1996), Air Chief Marshal (Retd.) Farooq Feroze Khan (allotted a 1,033-square-yard plot, number 13 in sector F-7/2 on January 29, 1995), former Naval Chief Admiral (Retd.) Saeed Muhammad Khan (allotted a plot measuring 1,066 square yards in sector F-7 on June 11, 1994), former Naval Chief Admiral (Retd.) Muhammad Saeed (allotted an 800-square-yard plot, number 19 in sector F-8/1 on August 30, 1987), and former Naval Chief, Admiral (Retd.) Yasturul Haq Malik, (allotted a 800-square-yard plot. number 551 in sector F-10/2 on November 4, 1991). The current market value of these plots varies from Rs. 70-100 million each.

However, there is no limit to the land acquired by some other officers. For instance, according to a list of land awards to officers, eight plots were allotted in the name of the Director General, ISI. The list placed before the Senate shows that five plots were allotted in the name of the DG, ISI on April 15, 1994 in sector F-11/2. The plots measuring 666 square yards, included plot numbers 193, 194, 261, 262 and 263. The DG, ISI was also allotted two more plots on November 16, 1994 in sector F-7/4 and F-7/2, each measuring 1,600 square yards. Another plot, measuring 1,244 square yards, was allotted in the name of the DG, ISI in sector F-7/1 on October 26, 1994.

Apart from the officially allocated plots, senior military officers get land in the defence housing schemes at concessional rates. However, developed, these plots add another Rs. 50-100 million each to the general's total worth.

According to Lt. General (Retd.) Moinuddin Haider, the DHAs pay market value for the land. However, the concept of market rate is debatable. The market rate is charged for agricultural land, which is phenomenally cheaper than urban property. The profit earned on property converted from rural to urban by the DHAs is much more than what would have been obtained had the real estate been sold as rural property. While the price of 600 square yards of agricultural property would be around Rs30,000-40,000, the same piece of urban land is worth approximately Rs50-100 million.

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Can somebody interpret the following sentence from this article ?

<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Across the border Kargil has already been mocked by a Commission at the findings made public.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-Naresh+Jul 15 2006, 03:49 AM-->QUOTE(Naresh @ Jul 15 2006, 03:49 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The New Land Barons - Ayesha Siddiqa</b>
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<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><b>Naresh</b><i> ji</i>, in the "Land of the Pure", it is naturally the "land" that is still the status symbol. The landed gentry created TSP cuckooland and the same landed gentry continue to rule TSP. No wonder therefore that 0.5% of the population possess control of over 30% of the TSP land. Successive land reform processes have miserably failed and in recent years the land reform laws have even been struck down by the Supreme Court and the CII (Council of Islamic Ideology) as contrary to the Shariah !! The Praetorian State has paid fabulous dividends to its Army Generals. The Navy & Airforce top brass have been left to eat the crumbs in the process. More than the individual officers getting plots, it is the Defence Housing schemes that are the most scandalous in TSP fairyland. As soon as the peace process started, the Army officers have grabbed lands in Occupied Kashmir as they now expect the land prices to rise there.
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<!--QuoteBegin-SSridhar+Jul 15 2006, 07:12 AM-->QUOTE(SSridhar @ Jul 15 2006, 07:12 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Can somebody interpret the following sentence from this article ?

<b>Across the border Kargil has already been mocked by a Commission at the findings made public.</b>
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<b>SSridhar <i>Ji</i> :</b>

The author-writer could be alluding to the Kargil Commission appointed in India and the faults that it attributes to the Indian Authorities.

after the word <b>Commission</b> delete <b>at</b>, insert <b>and</b> in its place.

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<b>SSridhar <i> Ji</i> :</b>

Your post Today – 15-07-2006 - 07:12 AM

If Mush the Tush reads your post he will agree with you 1000%!

I agree with you 100%.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->As soon as the peace process started, the Army officers have grabbed lands in Occupied Kashmir as they now expect the land prices to rise there.
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They are dead scared after earth quake, but now busy grabbing land in Balochistan and Gwadar area.
Army feudal system is well and kicking in Pakistan.


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